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Who'd win?

What's with the Pitt threads?

Put him against Omega Red already.

Originally posted by Bentley
What's with the Pitt threads?

Put him against Omega Red already. Why? That fight would be so one sided...

ok so seriously who'd win?

Rulk...written properly

Originally posted by guy222
Rulk...written properly

Is there such thing?

Originally posted by guy222
Rulk...written properly that sounds like an oxymoron *shrugs*

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that sounds like an oxymoron *shrugs*

Who? Guy or Loeb...

loeb's writting

ummmm ok so a Red hulk would beat Pitt? I'm surprised....

When Professor Hulk was conceived it was said that he was twice as powerful as he was in his savage incarnation, Savage Hulk overheated Rulk, so I don't see why Pitt could not do the same. It's not as if his heat would injure Pitt, and it's not like Rulk can hit harder than a God/Angel slayer. I am undecided on this but I don't see how Rulk could put Pitt down permanantly, and his bullet trick most certainly won't work either.

Originally posted by Stoic
When Professor Hulk was conceived it was said that he was twice as powerful as he was in his savage incarnation, Savage Hulk overheated Rulk, so I don't see why Pitt could not do the same. It's not as if his heat would injure Pitt, and it's not like Rulk can hit harder than a God/Angel slayer. I am undecided on this but I don't see how Rulk could put Pitt down permanantly, and his bullet trick most certainly won't work either. That would make sense if Savage Hulk's strength were static.

Pitt.

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
ummmm ok so a Red hulk would beat Pitt? I'm surprised....

Because of Loeb and his shit writing.

Originally posted by Mindset
That would make sense if Savage Hulk's strength were static.

It would indeed, but as we all saw Rulk took him out pretty quickly in their first meeting, and it was due to Rulks superior H2H ability, his smarts, and prep.... Pitt is a better fighter than Savage Hulk, and can use a variety of offensive weapons ranging from high tech spears, to alien fire arms... Pitt is very intelligent, Savage Hulk is not.

Let's look at this by stats.

1. Pitt has natural offensive weapons that are indestructible (blades for fingers), Rulk has finger nails.

2. Pitt's musculature is indestructible, Rulks is not.

3. Pitt has a healing factor as great, if not greater than the Hulks. Rulk does as well or did he? Thor's attack seemed to say otherwise but who can tell.

4. Pain is a stimulant to Pitt, Pitt locks onto his opponents aggressions and in turn he becomes more ferocious as a combatant. The Madder Rulk gets the Hotter he becomes (sounds like a burn out).

5. Pitt is easily high class 100, having the ability to hang with the Hulk in combat for prolonged periods of time, and seemingly get in better hits.

Rulk is also easily high class 100.

6. Pitt has limited psionic abilities, able to lock onto his prey and track them virtually anywhere, as long as they remain in the same dimension that he is in.

Rulk does not possess this ability.

7. Pitt can jump to the point of flying, Rulk can do this as well.

8. Pitt was trained from birth to exterminate whole planets filled with billions of beings, his martial arts skills as a warrior are unparalleled...

Rulk had a somewhat fierce fighting style, but not as impressive as Pitt's.

Who would win? I put my money on Pitt.

Rulk takes it.

Based on what?

Are you going to suggest Pitt could duplicate everything Rulk did?

You do realize Pitt could only stalemate a version of Hulk who DIDN'T have dynamic strength right?

Rulk takes this.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Are you going to suggest Pitt could duplicate everything Rulk did?

You do realize Pitt could only stalemate a version of Hulk who DIDN'T have dynamic strength right?

You also realize that Pitt jobbed in his battle with Professor Hulk right? unless of course you think that Professor Hulk could take a God slayer. Pitt also beat Supreme, who I'm pretty sure could beat Rulk after a little while, and he had Image Comics version of Thor's hammer as well.

As I said before Rulk got the jump on Thor because he was prepped for him, he also outfought the Savage Hulk because he not only had better moves, but he was prepped for him as well.

Pitt could easily peel Ironman out of his suit.

Pitt could break She Hulk as well.

Pitt could defeat the Abomination too.

Rulk overheated when he went up against the big two that he beat the first time around with prep... can Pitt last long enough for Rulk to overheat... yes he can, and with ease.

A lightning arc softened Rulk up, a laser cannon that flattened a forest only served to piss Pitt off.

You tell me, because statwise Pitt has all of the tools to deal with Rulk, and harshly as well.

Why are you taking that non-canon cross-over seriously? It was written by Peter David and drawn by Keown. They both worked together on Hulk and Pitt is Keowns creation. I can almost guarantee they had an agreement that neither character would win.

If Pitt hung with, stalemated or beat a Hulk with dynamic power, I would agree he has the tools. Merged or Prof. Hulk is one of the least impressive incarnations to date.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Why are you taking that non-canon cross-over seriously? It was written by Peter David and drawn by Keown. They both worked together on Hulk and Pitt is Keowns creation. I can almost guarantee they had an agreement that neither character would win.

If Pitt hung with, stalemated or beat a Hulk with dynamic power, I would agree he has the tools. Merged or Prof. Hulk is one of the least impressive incarnations to date.

You do realize that Professor Hulk, Maestro, and WWHulk have the same mind set right?

Are you are suggesting that Rulk could take Supreme with Thor's hammer as well?

Compared to Pitt, Rulk is a very one dimensional character, as he gets angry he gets hotter, what in the world is that going to do to Pitt exactly?

Rulk is not the same as Bruce who actually gets stronger, so there is a cap on Rulks power, the Professor had no such cap, so it's starting to look like Rulk is the least impressive Hulk to date besides Joe Fixit.

The only reason that Rulk was so impressive was because he was a class 100 that went for the kill.... guess what? Pitt kills as well, so he won't be holding back.

Rulk would stimulate Pitt when he hits him, and the more aggressive Rulk becomes the more beastial Pitt would become.

Originally posted by Stoic
You do realize that Professor Hulk, Maestro, and WWHulk have the same mind set right?

Comparing Prof. Hulk to Maestro and WWH is as laughable as it is ridiculous. They all might be geniuses but Maestro is twice as strong as Prof. Hulk, way more vicious and insane. WWH has banners mind with Savage Hulks power-set. He showed he could become more powerful very easily. Either version would shitstomp Pitt.



With Thors hammer? Uhhh yes.



It doesn't matter. Rulk has shown to have atleast average intelligence and starts out considerably stronger than Savage Hulk.



Professor Hulk had a cap. He became to angry he changed into Savage Banner.



You act as though Pitt will be around long enough to exploit whatever cap you think Rulk has.

Your funny I meant that Pitt defeated Supreme, and Supreme even had Thor of Image Comics hammer (sorry if I wasn't clear on that point) Supreme without the hammer would beat a hole in Rulks a@@ at super speed, as Supreme does not hold back like Superman.

Maestro sh** stomping Pitt is laughable, all he would do is end up making Pitt ferocious enough to cut his (Maestro's) damned head off.

Let's remember one thing the Professor never went all wild on Pitt the way that Maestro would, and as I said before, if Pitt is pushed far enough he has a second form... one that Maestro would be loathe to meet, one that would rip Maestro's heart out of his soft body (yes soft compared to Pitts claws), and although this would not kill Maestro we have all seen what heavy wounds inflicted upon him does, he needs time to heal up... time that he would not get.

Pitt can take alot of damage, he's one of those character's that thrives on damage and pain. The angrier Rulk gets the more sh*t that he would get himself into with Pitt, and his overheating problem would be the end of him.

Maestro would break Pitt. Using your logic Maestro>>Prof. Hulk+/-Pitt.

Again, your using a non-canon crossover to guage how well Pitt would do against Hulk. Have you visited Keown full-bleed studios website? He doesn't describe Pitt as if he's equal to or greater than the Hulk.

I don't need to visit Fullbleed I've read the comics that Pitt was in, and I'm gauging Pitt vs Supreme, Supreme who is more powerful than a confident Gladiator, but without his radiation weakness.

Supreme who would bury Rulk, and Professor Hulk.

Maestro fighting Pitt would be like a full grown man trying to beat a full grown 120lb big ass dog with claws. He may be a little stronger, and this is an uncertainty as Pitts upper strength limits have never been tested or reached.

Not only does Pitt have claws on his hands capable of tearing through the Hulks hide, but he has them on his feet as well... he could literally rip Maestro apart, and as i said he would heal but he would be far slower, while Pitt would still be ready to go.

Rulk... now this clown would straight up get his ass kicked in, he has a strength cap.

Originally posted by Stoic
I don't need to visit Fullbleed I've read the comics that Pitt was in, and I'm gauging Pitt vs Supreme, Supreme who is more powerful than a confident Gladiator, but without his radiation weakness.
Are you sure about that?

Pitt has done nothing to suggest he can hang with Rulk much less beat him.

Rulk

Originally posted by Mindset
Are you sure about that?

Sure about Supreme not having Gladiators weakness to radiation, or that Supreme was more powerful than Gladiator, because the comic that they fought in specifically said that Supreme was twice as powerful as Gladiator, and Pitt beat him.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Pitt has done nothing to suggest he can hang with Rulk much less beat him.


Supreme would beat Rulk pretty easily, and has the strength speed and power to do so. Rulk really did nothing that impressive himself, his best feat was beating Thor after he preped for the fight, but when Thor was ready for him the story changed didn't it.

Pitt defeating Supreme is greater than anything that Rulk did in his short lived career. Should we get into Supremes best feats?

What about Urgrul Thul a being much like Desak who feeds on the living energy of Gods, and was bouncing from dimension to dimension in search of new prey.... Pitt was able to withstand his might... Rulk nearly got melted by Thor, and admitted that Thor was abot to punch his ticket.

Pitt wins if he can exploit Rulk's poor jumping abilities and get him off the side of the stage. Just avoid the up-B and fly back to the edge.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Pitt wins if he can exploit Rulk's poor jumping abilities and get him off the side of the stage. Just avoid the up-B and fly back to the edge.

Exactly, I couldn't have said it better.

Beating Supreme is greater than beating Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Iron man combined?

No.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Beating Supreme is greater than beating Hulk, Thor, She-Hulk, Iron man combined?

No.

Except for the fact that he didn't beat all of them at once, and Pitt killed a planet with billions of beings on it.

You don't think Hulk or Rulk could do that?

He didn't beat them all at once, no. But according to you that was Pitt's most impressive battle.

Originally posted by Stoic
You also realize that Pitt jobbed in his battle with Professor Hulk right? unless of course you think that Professor Hulk could take a God slayer. Pitt also beat Supreme, who I'm pretty sure could beat Rulk after a little while, and he had Image Comics version of Thor's hammer as well.

As I said before Rulk got the jump on Thor because he was prepped for him, he also outfought the Savage Hulk because he not only had better moves, but he was prepped for him as well.

Pitt could easily peel Ironman out of his suit.

Pitt could break She Hulk as well.

Pitt could defeat the Abomination too.

Rulk overheated when he went up against the big two that he beat the first time around with prep... can Pitt last long enough for Rulk to overheat... yes he can, and with ease.

A lightning arc softened Rulk up, a laser cannon that flattened a forest only served to piss Pitt off.

You tell me, because statwise Pitt has all of the tools to deal with Rulk, and harshly as well.
That's not exactly a good gauge. Cyclops has his forest blasting feat, and I'm doubting he would even phase Red Hulk.

I'd give this to Rulk.

Trying to prove a point by using a non-canon fight between PITT and prof hulk and to say prof hulk was twice as strong as savage hulk??? I mean what does that even mean twice as strong wenn savage is at his base strenght or?????

Also kind of funny he stalemate against prof hulk right, but than you clam that PITT beat supreme who would beat prof hulk.
I mean ???

And didn't supreme pretty much stalemate against gladiator???
Didn't gladiator play dead, so that supreme would leave or something?
Or do I have a other comic in mind???
Where supreme get's all crazy on a planet and they fight while gladiator tries to save the live's on that planet.
That was a stalemate.
Beside's was that even canon???


Didn't hulk beat gladiator aswell (even iff some might call it piss).
So to prove your point by using the glad and supreme fight doesn't really matter now does it?

Originally posted by Stoic
Your funny I meant that Pitt defeated Supreme, and Supreme even had Thor of Image Comics hammer (sorry if I wasn't clear on that point) Supreme without the hammer would beat a hole in Rulks a@@ at super speed, as Supreme does not hold back like Superman.

Maestro sh** stomping Pitt is laughable, all he would do is end up making Pitt ferocious enough to cut his (Maestro's) damned head off.

Let's remember one thing the Professor never went all wild on Pitt the way that Maestro would, and as I said before, if Pitt is pushed far enough he has a second form... one that Maestro would be loathe to meet, one that would rip Maestro's heart out of his soft body (yes soft compared to Pitts claws), and although this would not kill Maestro we have all seen what heavy wounds inflicted upon him does, he needs time to heal up... time that he would not get.

Pitt can take alot of damage, he's one of those character's that thrives on damage and pain. The angrier Rulk gets the more sh*t that he would get himself into with Pitt, and his overheating problem would be the end of him. This second form you are talking about, is this when Zoyvod possessed Pitt's body?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
This second form you are talking about, is this when Zoyvod possessed Pitt's body?

No read the end of the Arc when Pitt loses control of his retractable claws, and goes in search of the President of the US.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Trying to prove a point by using a non-canon fight between PITT and prof hulk and to say prof hulk was twice as strong as savage hulk??? I mean what does that even mean twice as strong wenn savage is at his base strenght or?????

Also kind of funny he stalemate against prof hulk right, but than you clam that PITT beat supreme who would beat prof hulk.
I mean ???

And didn't supreme pretty much stalemate against gladiator???
Didn't gladiator play dead, so that supreme would leave or something?
Or do I have a other comic in mind???
Where supreme get's all crazy on a planet and they fight while gladiator tries to save the live's on that planet.
That was a stalemate.
Beside's was that even canon???


Didn't hulk beat gladiator aswell (even iff some might call it piss).
So to prove your point by using the glad and supreme fight doesn't really matter now does it?

I used a canonized battle between Pitt ans Supreme to gauge Pitts power, and stated that the guy that he defeated (Supreme) would make quick work of Rulk. Supreme is twice as powerful as Gladiator at full confidence, and gladiator at his best towed a planet, and destroyed one with his bare hands.



Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
That's not exactly a good gauge. Cyclops has his forest blasting feat, and I'm doubting he would even phase Red Hulk.

taking full hits from Supreme while using Thor's hammer is quite a bit greater than Cyclops' forest blasting feat. I was using the laser canon to show how durable Pitt was, as he was only angered by the blast... a similar blast put WWHulk out of action. What did Rulk do that was so astounding? Oh as far as collateral damage he hit A-Bomb and cause a 10 on the geology scale.... pfft, as i said Gladiator destroyed a planet with his punches, and Supreme is twice as powerful as he is.

Originally posted by Stoic
No read the end of the Arc when Pitt loses control of his retractable claws, and goes in search of the President of the US.



I used a canonized battle between Pitt ans Supreme to gauge Pitts power, and stated that the guy that he defeated (Supreme) would make quick work of Rulk. Supreme is twice as powerful as Gladiator at full confidence, and gladiator at his best towed a planet, and destroyed one with his bare hands.





taking full hits from Supreme while using Thor's hammer is quite a bit greater than Cyclops' forest blasting feat. I was using the laser canon to show how durable Pitt was, as he was only angered by the blast... a similar blast put WWHulk out of action. What did Rulk do that was so astounding? Oh as far as collateral damage he hit A-Bomb and cause a 10 on the geology scale.... pfft, as i said Gladiator destroyed a planet with his punches, and Supreme is twice as powerful as he is.

Big deal why use Gladiator?????
HULK also beat gladiator.
Rulk beat hulk.
You try to use abc logics cool, same could work for Rulk than.
And dude Rulk K.O'ed Uatu a watcher

And why you say it was Thor's hammer????
Can you prove it was the same???
Iff not don't clame something like that.

By the way I'm not the one that needs to prove that Pitt could outlast Rulk. Pitt has taken far more punishment than Rulk dished out in his very short tenure, Supreme is all anyone needs to show this, and he was amped by Thors hammer to boot.

Rulk needs to prove that he can take out a guy that went through the punishment that Pitt has taken, the only other guy in Pitt's weight class that has shown to be able to take more abuse is the Juggernaut, but in the durabilty dept every character pales to his enormous damage soak.

Rulk was nearly trashed by one hit of lightning from Thor... one!!! Rulk has no staying power, he overheats, and this would be his downfall if he fought Pitt.

Rulk showed how hard he hits and theres no hiding behind the fact that he did not hit as hard as Gladiator. Supreme hits even harder than Gladiator without Thor's hammer.

Pitt fighting Supreme is canon, they were from the same comic universe, and Pitt put him down.

Using Pitts battle against Professor Hulk was not canon, and it was CIS, Pitt jobbed in his fight against the Professor, and he jobbed big time. Marvel just would not have a flagship character lose to anyone less than an Icon like Superman. So we can drop it with that fight and go with feats.

Pitts damage soak, and very power set shows anyone that he would take Rulk for a majority, Rulk only shows that he has no staying power because he overheats in battle, and can hit really hard, while being very good at sneak attacks, and prep, he doesn't get stronger as he get upset, he gets hotter.


No Rulk would not take Pitt out before he reaches critical, he doesn't have the power, Pitt enjoys pain and it stimulates him, as Rulk would get more angry, and begin the overheating process Pitt would be at the top of his game, and would begin to resemble a demon more than a human, at which point Rulk wouldn't even be able to yield.

Pitt would clean house with Rulk.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Big deal why use Gladiator?????
HULK also beat gladiator.
Rulk beat hulk.
You try to use abc logics cool, same could work for Rulk than.
And dude Rulk K.O'ed Uatu a watcher

And why you say it was Thor's hammer????
Can you prove it was the same???
Iff not don't clame something like that.

Do you know what you are talkng about?

Image Comics has it's own version of Thor.

Image comics Thor has was shown to be as powerful as Marvel comics classic Thor (who went toe to toe with a mindless Hulk)

Supreme beat the Image Universe's Thor in battle much like Beta Ray Bill beat Marvels Thor, and in defeating him Supreme took his hammer as a battle trophy.

With the hammer of Thor Supreme became even more powerful than he was before he fought Thor, he was more powerful than he was when he was bouncing Gladiator around the universe like a super ball without the hammer of Thor.

Pitt with his bare hands beat Supreme.

Are you starting to see what I see?

So image's thor has the same powers as marvel thor has that ever been stated????
Show me the prove that image thor is and has the same powers as thor.

And dude why you even state that supreme is twice as strong as gladiator????
First it can't even be canon they are not in the same comic supreme is from image gladiator is from marvel.
And even iff you want to use it never state that supreme was twice as strong didn't say in the comic they pretty much stalemate and gladiator played dead because he was the one that had a clear head.
And could see that the fight would last for a long time.
He even stated there powers where so evenly matched it would take to long for one to be a clear winner.

Originally posted by Stoic
No read the end of the Arc when Pitt loses control of his retractable claws, and goes in search of the President of the US. I'll have to look that up because I don't remember that.

Originally posted by Stoic
Sure about Supreme not having Gladiators weakness to radiation, or that Supreme was more powerful than Gladiator, because the comic that they fought in specifically said that Supreme was twice as powerful as Gladiator, and Pitt beat him.



And yet Gladiator was stalemating him.

Where the heck is the idea that Supreme is twice as strong as Gladiator coming from? The only time they've fought they were evenly matched, stalemating each other.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Where the heck is the idea that Supreme is twice as strong as Gladiator coming from? The only time they've fought they were evenly matched, stalemating each other.

Lol well at first people said he was atleast four time's stronger than gladiator.
But it happend just like you said they where evenly matched.
What the comic showed.

I haven't read that comic in a while either, but as far as I remember there was no proof that Glads was at full confidence during that fight either. We've probably never seen the full extent of what Gladiator can do. If Kallark was stalemating Supreme at a level that isn't his peak, then there's simply no way Supremem is stronger, let alone by a gap that large.

Rulk takes this, end of story.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Where the heck is the idea that Supreme is twice as strong as Gladiator coming from? The only time they've fought they were evenly matched, stalemating each other.

It was written in the book in which they fought. Rulk does not take this, you guys just feel as if Rulk should take this because of popularity, not from power set, Rulk would have a huge problem with Pitt.

1. He wouldn't be able to put him down for the count.
2. He overheats
3. He stays at the same power level
4. Pitt changes for the better as the fight proceeds
5 Pitt's offensive natural weaponry is more than enough to take Rulk down over a prolonged period of time.

Originally posted by Stoic
It was written in the book in which they fought. Rulk does not take this, you guys just feel as if Rulk should take this because of popularity, not from power set, Rulk would have a huge problem with Pitt.

1. He wouldn't be able to put him down for the count.
2. He overheats
3. He stays at the same power level
4. Pitt changes for the better as the fight proceeds
5 Pitt's offensive natural weaponry is more than enough to take Rulk down over a prolonged period of time.
Popularity? Seriously? Who on this board can say they're actually a fan of Red Hulk?

Using Supreme vs Pitt as a gauge for his power is ridiculous. It being canon doesn't mean it's in the right. If that's the case, the Hulk beating the High Evolutionary should be all over the place.

Red Hulk was throwing punches twice as powerful as an atomic bomb with a smile on his face.

Seriously Rulk is probably my least favorite character, not even exaggerating.

And Sentry stalemated Galactus. If on panel evidence proves otherwise, you can't rely on a description.





I've often described Rulk as the biggest douche in the Marvel universe. Nobody actually likes Rulk.

And Supreme was throwing punches thar ripped through a reality phase inverter. Supremes punches are planet busters. Supreme punched a guy so hard in outer space that he created whiteout event.

Using Pitt vs Supreme to gauge his durability, and power range is not as ridiculous as you say, it's just a larger feat than Rulk hitting A-Bomb with a punch that measured 10 on some geology scale, and it was never stated as to what scale it was on top of it all, it may have been on the Popeye scale for all the info we were given.

If his punch was so devestating why didn't it kill A-Bomb? Tell you what.... Supreme, being able to fly through a star without being killed, yet being knocked out by Pitt is a bigger feat than Rulks titanic punch.

Gladiator flew through a star and actually has on panel evidence of his punches destroying planets, Supreme is not twice as powerful as his average, let alone any stronger than him at his peak.

Rulk knocked out a Watcher, Pitt's not going to be that big a deal for him. He takes this, Pitt does not.

Originally posted by Stoic
It was written in the book in which they fought. Rulk does not take this, you guys just feel as if Rulk should take this because of popularity, not from power set, Rulk would have a huge problem with Pitt.

1. He wouldn't be able to put him down for the count.
2. He overheats
3. He stays at the same power level
4. Pitt changes for the better as the fight proceeds
5 Pitt's offensive natural weaponry is more than enough to take Rulk down over a prolonged period of time.

It was not state in the comic that supreme was 2 time's stronger than gladiator read it again.

People don't disagree with you because we are fans of rulk, we disagree because you use non-canon material to show your right. and cool for Pitt to beat supreme.
Nice he beat a planet full of enemy's.
Grey hulk destroyed a astroied twice the size of earth (ok he had some help getting to the astroied, but he did destroy it). and he is one of the weak versions of hulk.

I mean Rulk punching the watcher, Rulk killing abommination with a freaking gun (while he's suppose to have a healing factor).
You think people who have been reading or following marvel comics or hulk comics for a long time would like to see something this?

If anything, it's ridiculous that Pitt would be able to generate enough force to knock out Supreme.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
And Sentry stalemated Galactus. If on panel evidence proves otherwise, you can't rely on a description.





I've often described Rulk as the biggest douche in the Marvel universe. Nobody actually likes Rulk.

Please Gladiator said himself that Supreme broke his ribs does this sound like Gladiator was winning? I'll go with the books statement when it was written and stated that Supreme was twice as powerful as Gladiator over your opinion, because the book is canon.

Besides Gladiator would beat the hell out of Rulk as well. it would be very simple to heat the clown up and have him howl about what Gladiator was doing to him, like he did with Savage Hulk.

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
If anything, it's ridiculous that Pitt would be able to generate enough force to knock out Supreme. How so?

Hulk vs PITT is non-canon, thus is not valid. Rulk wins because of Loeb's shitty writing.

Supreme wasn't winning either, champ. That's why they call it a stalemate.

Look, you've made it perfectly clear that you're not going to look at the facts and use those to determine the outcome here, so there's really no point in discussing with you any further. When you realize that your opinion doesn't hold any sway when logic shows it to be incorrect, then we'll continue.

Originally posted by Brutacus
It was not state in the comic that supreme was 2 time's stronger than gladiator read it again.


It was on the back cover.


See the whole Glads vs Supreme fight here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77

Originally posted by MightyEInherjar
If anything, it's ridiculous that Pitt would be able to generate enough force to knock out Supreme.

Unless he was created that strong, right?

When has Pitt ever been put down due to physical domination? Never.

When was Rulk put down due to physical dominance? Recently


Who has more feats? Pitt.... Rulk as of now only lasted for what 7 maybe 8 appearances... and suddenly he can't be beat, and there are feats to prove it?

Everything that happened in those Loeb books are canon, and from what was shown in Rulks defeat, he would not have the staying power to beat Pitt, he might be a little stronger, but strength isn't everything Pitt would outlast him.

When Thor got serious on Rulk what happened? Rulk was just superhyped but in the end he got a pin stuck in his balloon.

Pitt was assaulted by a God Slayer and lived through the ordeal, an ancient God Slayer to boot, Rulk would have been eaten.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
It was on the back cover.

Show it.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Supreme wasn't winning either, champ. That's why they call it a stalemate.

Look, you've made it perfectly clear that you're not going to look at the facts and use those to determine the outcome here, so there's really no point in discussing with you any further. When you realize that your opinion doesn't hold any sway when logic shows it to be incorrect, then we'll continue.



By all means bow out.

IMO Pitt should win, outside a Loeb book.

I'll take that as your concession.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Show it.

In here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
It was on the back cover.


See the whole Glads vs Supreme fight here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77

Seen the fight over 100 times allready not the first time I'm on this forum.

The fight ends in a stalemate because the output of there energy would destory the planet or something so gladiator was just playing dead.

Yes, they stalemated each other.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
In here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=497251&highlight=clones+forumid%3A77

Don't see where it state he is 2 times stronger show the back cover.

Ok yeah I see it your right on the back of the cover first scan.
Still it was a stalemate.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Ok yeah I see it your right on the back of the cover first scan.
Still it was a stalemate.

Stalemate or not Gladiator without CIS would ruin Rulks day just like Thor was about to.

Supreme and Gladiator may have stalemated, but it was still stated that Supreme was above him, and it showed that Supreme was getting the better of Gladiator, because let's face it, when has Gladiator ever b@@ched up to someone beneath him? Like never.

Rulk has no staying power this would be the deciding factor, and he doesn't get stronger either, and he doesn't hit as hard as Gladiator on panel.

Originally posted by Stoic
Stalemate or not Gladiator without CIS would ruin Rulks day just like Thor was about to.

Supreme and Gladiator may have stalemated, but it was still stated that Supreme was above him, and it showed that Supreme was getting the better of Gladiator, because let's face it, when has Gladiator ever b@@ched up to someone beneath him? Like never.

Rulk has no staying power this would be the deciding factor, and he doesn't get stronger either, and he doesn't hit as hard as Gladiator on panel.

Euh based on what???
Hulk beat gladiator allready.
Has it ever been the other way around nope.

Originally posted by Brutacus
Euh based on what???
Hulk beat gladiator allready.
Has it ever been the other way around nope.


Did you notice what personae that Hulk was? It was the Maestro personae, not Savage. Anyone that knows anything about the Hulk knows that his power is a state of mind, and Savage Hulk always starts his battles as a humble five year old.

The Hulk that battled Gladiator was cool and calculating; even cruelty was not beneath him, a true killer.

Rulk is a killer as well, which took Savage Hulk by storm, and Thor as well.

Pitt is also a killer. he was bred as the perfect organism, with the ability to kill any given species, a doomsday device if you can imagine, but he was able to get away from his father Zoyvod, and thus embrace his humanity.

However Pitt has two sides, and the more damge he sustains the more his father's side of the coin comes out of him, this is most likely the form that Rulk would see after a prolonged (and much "heated" battle).
Rulk would start to melt like frosty, and Pitt would have grown into a true monster without the abilty to be reasoned with.

Glads lost to Hulk because of his weakness to radiation.

Originally posted by Endrict Nuul
Glads lost to Hulk because of his weakness to radiation.

You're totally right it was the Radiation, not gamma but the radiation from the facility, so Rulk would not be able to affect Gladiator in this way.

Here's a question for you who did the Hulk look like when he was hitting Gladiator though? Do you remember the look on the Maestro's face when he was putting the beat down on Professor Hulk in Future Imprefect?

Your point is that the hulk may not have beaten Gladiator if not for the radiation though, but even if he could not, he would have a better shot at it than a guy that gets hotter as he gets more upset.

Rulk in truth and potential is the weakest link, and he is excused.

Originally posted by Stoic
No read the end of the Arc when Pitt loses control of his retractable claws, and goes in search of the President of the US. OK, maybe I'm missing something but I went back to the Ugly Americans issue and I didn't see any different form of Pitt. I saw him with his skin burned off by the Sunspot laser that he didn't grow back for almost a day. I went back farther in the comics and I think that you are getting the form that he was in when he was battling his brother Quagg then Wroth, that was the start of the possession of Zoyvod. This was started by Quagg hitting him with a flashback of memories of his creation which triggered a psychological change in Pitt. During the later battle with Wroth is when Zoyvod took over.

Pitt for the win

Rulk wins. In his short time he's beaten a greater number of impressive characters than Pitt has his whole career.

As I said previous, check Full Bleed Studios webpage. The way Keown describes Pitt in his bio doesn't suggest he's on Hulks level at all.

http://www.fullbleed.com/

Ok I went to Fullbleed Studios which I was at about a month ago, and see no indication as to what you are talking about.... are you talking about the synopsis, that were written about each Pitt issue that was published? And you are calling those a Bio on the character?

I have every single one of those books, and a brief synopsis really doesn't do the books justice, hows about this, I know for a fact that there are people who sell all of the Pitt comics on Ebay, why don't you buy them, read them, and find yourself falling in love with the character, and come back and talk to me, about how you believe that Rulk is going to stop a guy by hitting him when he enjoys pain.

Also I would like you to tell me how Rulk is going to pull Pitt's foot out of his ass because the madder he (Rulk) got the more vicious Pitt became.

I'm a comic pirate. If I really wanted the books, I would've DL'ed long ago.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I'm a comic pirate. If I really wanted the books, I would've DL'ed long ago. And your point of telling us?

Because I felt like it.