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so i know there are some young ppl who are thinking of joining the arm forces but arent aware of what it would be like. I am a marine i have been through it, i can and will answer all your questions without being bias. i will answer your question with my personal experience. i have been around army navy air force and nigerian soldiers and other world military. unlike television and its onesided promotions of military life or news tv i won't lie to you,unless it makes me look good..

i can and will answers any and all questions that you would all like to hear barbra walters ask, or news to report on..

i just get tired of news and politicians speak for us and no nothing about us. and tv promotions hype our life styles as if it is fun.. so ask away and if any other military person has a story to share go right ahead and tell us..

Sooooo, about the showering....

sigh... we share showers in boot camp only, and even then we are tortured by the drill instructors with hot or cold showers that only last about 30 second walk through maze...

it teaches us not to be ashamed and lose a sense of self..

about the last 2 weeks of a 3 month period they decide to give you about 5 min alone without being tortured.

I've heard a lot about soldiers being forced to go back to Iraq after serving, with threat of court marshal or what ever (I don't know the military lingo), how much truth is there to all of that?

Did you order the Code Red on PFC Santiago?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
sigh... we share showers in boot camp only, and even then we are tortured by the drill instructors with hot or cold showers that only last about 30 second walk through maze...

it teaches us not to be ashamed and lose a sense of self..

Kinky . . .

This is what the Marines do to you:

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Kinky . . .

How did you guys shower after gym class?

ok ive a few questions that hopefully you can answer

Who have been the most diciplined soldiers youve worked with? perhaps an overview of military groups youve worked with? i.e their overall kit in comparison to your own.

Are many soldiers still very young? is there a lot of 16 or younger soldiers like there were in Vietnam for example?

What equipment have you used?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
I am a marine



I'm Agent Drunky O'Hardtoole, secret operative of the King of Ireland's Special Service. If anyone wants to ask an internet tough guy questions and receive completely ridiculous answers that sound like something out of Full Metal Jacket or whatever war movie or TV show I was watching last night, then I'm your man. Did you know that real soldiers use weapons called "lazorz" and fire thousands of rounds in a single fight without every hitting anyone? And no one ever gets hurt? Plus, a guy can get stabbed in the chest with a spear and he'll only go into a coma! YYYYOOOOO JOE!!! Now to sing the King of Ireland's Royal Anthem to prove I'm not some huge liar who lives in his parents' basement.

A TAR TA TEE TA TOOH TEE TAAH, OYO ME BOYOS, A TURH TA TOO TA TUM-TEE-TUM

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
How did you guys shower after gym class?

I was referring to "removing sense of self". And we didn't people put on deodorant, a change of shirt and went on with the day like real men.

Originally posted by UKR
I'm Agent Drunky O'Hardtoole, secret operative of the King of Ireland's Special Service. If anyone wants to ask an internet tough guy questions and receive completely ridiculous answers that sound like something out of Full Metal Jacket or whatever war movie or TV show I was watching last night, then I'm your man. Did you know that real soldiers use weapons called "lazorz" and fire thousands of rounds in a single fight without every hitting anyone? And no one ever gets hurt? Plus, a guy can get stabbed in the chest with a spear and he'll only go into a coma! YYYYOOOOO JOE!!! Now to sing the King of Ireland's Royal Anthem to prove I'm not some huge liar who lives in his parents' basement.

A TAR TA TEE TA TOOH TEE TAAH, OYO ME BOYOS, A TURH TA TOO TA TUM-TEE-TUM And I am special agent IDO69ER, of the royal Canadian mounties. I have a a 24 inch penis and am impervious to any and all sorts of small arms fire. I am a genius and I beat up Mike Tyson last night. Now, if you will excuse me, Tyra Banks and Halle Berry are naked and having a tickle fight in my bedroom.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And I am special agent IDO69ER, of the royal Canadian mounties. I have a a 24 inch penis and am impervious to any and all sorts of small arms fire. I am a genius and I beat up Mike Tyson last night. Now, if you will excuse me, Tyra Banks and Halle Berry are naked and having a tickle fight in my bedroom.

Impossible, Halle Berry is here with me right now.

But really, there's no reason to think Shadow isn't be genuine.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Impossible, Halle Berry is here with me right now.

But really, there's no reason to think Shadow isn't be genuine. You get sloppy seconds, byatch.

And I was just going with the flow, man.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I was referring to "removing sense of self". And we didn't people put on deodorant, a change of shirt and went on with the day like real men.

Hahaha, Sym was shy

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Hahaha, Sym was shy

No, we actually didn't have working showers srug

I am Batman.

Originally posted by inimalist
I've heard a lot about soldiers being forced to go back to Iraq after serving, with threat of court marshal or what ever (I don't know the military lingo), how much truth is there to all of that?

it can happen depending on the need for your job.. if there are not enough ppl enlisting.. your are required to at least 8 yrs.. 4 in active duty and 4 yrs of non active duty.. i had a friend get acitivated after 2 yrs of being out of the marine corps.. also one of my relatives was force to do an extra yr out of his 4 yr enlistment during the beginning of the iraq war.. its called stop loss or involuntary extension ... it doesnt always happen but its there, and yes if you refuse to go you can be courtmarshalled and you can lose all your benefits like college fund, or dishonorable discharge makes it difficult to get hired ...its like being blacklisted....



secong question there were no code reds in boot camp.. although we did fight each other after nights out... we self descipline each other for f#$k ups.. or for ratting each other out to the instructor...


the most discpline ppl are not even in the military they are government contracters...then the navy mostly because they are book nerds medics.......army can be pretty bad at discipline... air force is like a party school and friendly... us marines are the jock drunks that clean up pretty well the next day... pretty much it depends on the PR of each branch..

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No, we actually didn't have working showers srug

Okay, you were poor.

Big whoop.

Originally posted by Burning thought
ok ive a few questions that hopefully you can answer

Who have been the most diciplined soldiers youve worked with? perhaps an overview of military groups youve worked with? i.e their overall kit in comparison to your own.

Are many soldiers still very young? is there a lot of 16 or younger soldiers like there were in Vietnam for example?

What equipment have you used?

i have worked with sea bees they are a part of the navy.. most were in there mid 30's early 40's and were E-7 and above in the o-4 rank..
very professional.. they are the like navy seals but instead of killing they land and build structures as fast as possible while being safe they are construction workers for the navy..

My job in iraq for disobeying my temporary Ssgt, was to escort air force ppl off the flight deck. i was base security escort, but there was no real danger its just another way to screw with your sleeping time... all the air forced ppl were nice although they did not have a combat mindset they relied to much on us marines for protection..
i asked an air men once, whom i had to escort for about a month at 2 in the morning from his job area to his quarters... we were on base but it can still be very dark and hazardous so usually have to rely on the buddy system.. from falling in a pit or being attacked by ppl or animals, we have actually arrested ppl on base that were mapping our camp with GPS... anyways i asked him where was his wpn did not the air force provide wpns for you guys? he replied that it was in his war pack and was only issued a side arm and he did not need it cause i was there with him... i became a little upset. (airforce age usually 23 and over most are fairly educated and attend school)


army ppl are fairly young at late 17 early 18 below 21 yrs of age...
the reserves are usually in mid late 40's overweight non of them in the army seem to have any real combat knowledge of wpn systems...
we had a army tank unit come to our armory before heading out to patrol.. they wanted us to look at there 50 cal machine gun they had been using it for two weeks and were unable to fix it...we were informed by the Pfc that there officer had just graduated and enlisted. that she was a dunts which worried us marines especially when she ordered her ppl to let her drive the tank which ran into a corner of a building and had bend the bullet shield and might have damaged the gun tube...

we looked at there wpns the tank and the 50 cal. our sgt ordered every marine to look at the 50 cal and if we knew what was wrong with it... each marine laughed at the obvious malfunction it was missing its guts the entire firing mechanism,, the army had been going outside the wire for 2 weeks with that problem..
we gave a crash course in wpn operations for about an hour reported there officer and refused to let them leave till we were satisfied that they knew what they were doing... oh we also provided new firing mecahnism for their 50 cal and had each member practice firing it and repairing it in case it malfunction in mid combat..

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Okay, you were poor.

Big whoop.

In the school Or at least no one ever used them.

This is pretty interesting, actually. Even if he is lying, which at this point I don't think he is, he describes it in a realistic enough way to be interesting.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Who have been the most diciplined soldiers youve worked with? perhaps an overview of military groups youve worked with? i.e their overall kit in comparison to your own.


For me: snipers. There's a stereotype that they're a bunch of cold-blooded killers for taking the job in the first place, but they're just regular people who have a job to do.

But pilots are the cockiest, rowdiest assholes in the service.

Originally posted by Burning thought

Are many soldiers still very young? is there a lot of 16 or younger soldiers like there were in Vietnam for example?


I think the average age today is 23.

Originally posted by Burning thought

What equipment have you used?

I was a tank mechanic, so when it comes to weapons I only received basic training in standard weapons like the M-16.

i and my armory ppl spend a lot of time playing halo against some sniper guys on there off time, loved their commitment..

even on their off time they would look for an armory to check and clear there wpns for malfunctions.. and pull a chair to plays a shooter game..

even if you offered them proper quarters to sleep or rest they would perfer to stay and sleep in our armory..

i guess its the respect of combat oriented military personal.. they would seek weapon knowledge, we would go off to the hills and fire weapons ours and theirs.. regardless of military branch of army navy, marine and even private contractors.. if you are combat personal then we are equals mentality.. non of that branch war bull..

of course we had satellite tv and web access through our hook ups and connections and racks to sleep in. we are very resourceful when it comes to it building things out of nothing in the desert..

might have had something to do with them staying with us..

You commented on how the "Army can be pretty bad at discipline", would you care to divulge exactly what you meant about that particular company concerning discipline?

Originally posted by Stoic
You commented on how the "Army can be pretty bad at discipline", would you care to divulge exactly what you meant about that particular company concerning discipline?

i have in my possession pictures of army women in compromising acts that are frequently passed around in iraq for trade for goods...
some of them have high ranking ppl like Snco involved drinking partying with their jr members that is a no no... i also made a comment about an army officer and gave my experience of them in my earlier post.. granted i cant generalize all members of the branch but it has bn my personal experience..

post the pics.

i cant do that.. its against forum rules.. but if u search the web u can find a lot of nude military women i had one of my female sgt that we used to pass around when i was a junior member marine.. she was hot and i could never be around her long because i would become aroused...

Do you have any pictures of yourself in uniform?

yes.. my favorite one is with chuck ...i really wont post any that has my name and rank... because well i dont like having my pics flying around in the internet..


if you pm me your email ill sent it to you

What are the policies on dating within the military? Is it common?

PM them to me and I'll crop your name out if you want.

Originally posted by Stoic
What are the policies on dating within the military? Is it common? Your sig PWNS.

Thanks

Originally posted by Stoic
What are the policies on dating within the military? Is it common?

we are not allowed to date within our rank structure .. its like saying dipping within the company ink it can get you court marshalled and get your rank taken away depending in rank.. if your an officer with an enlisted more then likely will get you kicked out, if you are an enlisted it will get your rank taken away..

you can not date within your work area... you can date so long as the person is a part of another unit without any links to your chain of command..

Hmm so your British soldier Bicnarock and you went with American soldiers and found them bad soldiers or something? ive heard British soldiers are some of the best but is this true that they are better than American in skill, dicipline etc?

Same question to you Wild shadow

My grandmother-in-law was Army Wife of the Year once. She excelled in the art of hosting parties in which prominent military people attended. My question is, what does it take to be Army Wife of the Year nowadays? I would assume that in today's P.C. world, the recipient would no longer be required to be female. Sooo, do I stand a good chance or what?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
we are not allowed to date within our rank structure .. its like saying dipping within the company ink it can get you court marshalled and get your rank taken away depending in rank.. if your an officer with an enlisted more then likely will get you kicked out, if you are an enlisted it will get your rank taken away..

you can not date within your work area... you can date so long as the person is a part of another unit without any links to your chain of command.. So tell me, who would you most trust at your back in combat? A straight man, a gay man, or a woman?

Originally posted by botankus
My grandmother-in-law was Army Wife of the Year once. She excelled in the art of hosting parties in which prominent military people attended. My question is, what does it take to be Army Wife of the Year nowadays? I would assume that in today's P.C. world, the recipient would no longer be required to be female. Sooo, do I stand a good chance or what?

Just as long as you don't tell.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
we are not allowed to date within our rank structure .. its like saying dipping within the company ink it can get you court marshalled and get your rank taken away depending in rank.. if your an officer with an enlisted more then likely will get you kicked out, if you are an enlisted it will get your rank taken away..

you can not date within your work area... you can date so long as the person is a part of another unit without any links to your chain of command..
Not true. You can date within the same command, as long as you are not directly in the chain of command. A senior can date a junior that works in a different department.

well marines were modeled after the british royal navy.. we give props to you guys as the best of marines the royal marines are hard core..

what kinda marines were they that you were attached to, what was their MOS?

most marine are more into body building and strength not speed..

although your average grunt is build for speed and maneuverability and indurance. not strength makes me sad that the marines you met weren't up to you guys challenge..

the most discipline ppl i met were the nigerian soldiers. they took whatever job given no matter how insignificant or unimportant one might think it was seriously..


to be a good military wife 1st think dont cheat on your husband period after that its how much butt kissing you do with parties and higher ups, fundraisers church gathering care packaging...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So tell me, who would you most trust at your back in combat? A straight man, a gay man, or a woman?


i have a joke in the military i tell my guys when i hear them with their gay bashing talk.. i tell them i rather have a gay guy watching my 6 in a combat hole. if we are surrounded and i take a shot, i would hope he likes me or has a crush on me. he'll fight tooth and nails to protect someone he loves and might take some shots meant for me...

Do you believe that the military should have allegiances to the country, it's principles, and its people, or to its leaders and benefactors (and don't say they're one and the same, that's a very communist viewpoint)?

And before you start questioning me about my patriotism and who i am, i will say that i am a recent veteran of the civilian service and have served my community, state, and country and am contemplating a second year. I just think its a valid question to ask particularly with the way things have been devolving in this country, really since the 80's.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
Do you believe that the military should have allegiances to the country, it's principles, and its people, or to its leaders and benefactors (and don't say they're one and the same, that's a very communist viewpoint)?

And before you start questioning me about my patriotism and who i am, i will say that i am a recent veteran of the civilian service and have served my community, state, and country and am contemplating a second year. I just think its a valid question to ask particularly with the way things have been devolving in this country, really since the 80's.

well, my personal believe is that as a marine i am supposed to obey the orders of my president...but having said that, my allegiance will always belong to the people and my country and not just an individual government leader or political figure..

if lets say all of a sudden they ordered martial law without rhyme or reason, and i was ordered to shoot american civilians that were protesting and gathering in mass.. i would disobey the order and probably turn my wpn against those enforcing illegal orders and stand beside the ppl...

just saying hypothetically.... if something like that ever happened..

i have in the passed disobeyed orders that i felt were questionable and received reprimands and just as likely bn praised for standing up to my chain of command, granted they were small insignificant orders.. but i will not be a personal driver to a higher up because he ordered me or pick up their dry cleaning.. or work on their house cause they found out i was a certified contractor before i joined..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i have a joke in the military i tell my guys when i hear them with their gay bashing talk.. i tell them i rather have a gay guy watching my 6 in a combat hole. if we are surrounded and i take a shot, i would hope he likes me or has a crush on me. he'll fight tooth and nails to protect someone he loves and might take some shots meant for me...


I'll take an angry black woman on PMS anyday.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'll take an angry black woman on PMS anyday. What...the hell...is wrong with you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What...the hell...is wrong with you? Dude you've never seen an angry black woman on the rag?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'll take an angry black woman on PMS anyday.


i never feared my drill instructors in boot camp even though they always threaten to kick our butts..

i always figured my mom yelled a whole not worse and had dirtier vocabulary then any marine instructor or ops ppl.. she actually could kick my butt in combat. she is mexican not blk but close enough imagine a blk woman..


remember one time i was 17 and i told her off cause i had ditched school.. she was on me like white on rice jabs hooks uppercuts and i was in such fear of my life that i tried to push her off me.. all that happen was she side step me and put me in a choke hold and told me she couldn't believe that i tried to touch her... right before passing out

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i never feared my drill instructors in boot camp even though they always threaten to kick our butts..

i always figured my mom yelled a whole not worse and had dirtier vocabulary then any marine instructor or ops ppl.. she actually could kick my butt in combat. she is mexican not blk but close enough imagine a blk woman..


remember one time i was 17 and i told her off cause i had ditched school.. she was on me like white on rice jabs hooks uppercuts and i was in such fear of my life that i tried to push her off me.. all that happen was she side step me and put me in a choke hold and told me she couldn't believe that i tried to touch her... right before passing out I was never in the military, but when I was 19 I got a DWI and was sentenced to first offenders boot camp for three months. My DI was an ex Marine, and after it was all over, he was talking to us, saying we should be proud, that we just finished three months of what was basically Marine boot camp.

MAN those DI's were tough.

they are pussy cats its all show and false confidence given to them by their authority and job description.... try running into them at a bar majority of time they are the 1st to apologize to you.... ran into mine in diego he was my jr drill instructor he was a Ssgt by then and i was corporal... kept giving me dirty looks cause he couldnt place my face i knew who we was and i confronted him with what the hell he was looking at he backed down and apologize for the look.... later my buddiest ask me if i knew the guy i told him he had bn my instructor..

I ran into mine in a club and he got me drunk haermm

how is British boot camp? what does your training consist of?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
how is British boot camp? what does your training consist of? The wake up every morning and piss on the American flag.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
how is British boot camp? what does your training consist of?

Boot camp as in Basic training?

It depends what unit your going for, the Royal Marines recruit training for example, is the longest basic modern infantry training programme of any NATO combat troops.

More info HERE

HERES some info on "P- company" the Parachute Regiments training course.

Theres various other regiments and corps which have less rigorous training.

Im a Marine...and so far I hate it. I don't know...I mean at first I thought it was the Corps., but then I realized it's the people in it that make it so bad. They're so ****ing stupid.

Like seriously. I'm very liberal and I'm just getting used to the lifestyle...not even. Everyone thinks I'm belligerent, have an attitude problem, whatever. But like I said, it's hard. I only been in for a year and I have come to the conclusion that I have 3 years left of this shit, so I gotta just smile and kiss ass to make it without and NJP.

you sound very similar to a younger version of me.... it is the ppl i personally dont excpect anything cause they will let you down... most military ppl cant uphold their oath or honor.. just ignore and do the best you can till you get out... assume every negative thing about them and they wont dissappoint you, but yup kiss ass to get ahead get the best jobs or assignments to get out of your section or company even battallion.

I blame this question on an aging hippie Vietnam Vet who was my history teacher and had us watch "Full Metal Jacket" in class as sophomores. So... yes. Background.

Is boot camp the type of horror show that is presented to us in the media?

no.... the media edited the swearing, or the D.I.'S hide the fact of swearing, assaulting humiliating with certain comments or observations... torture exercise the media never sees that kind of stuff or ppl would b in the brig or mass media story although there are always a lot of D.I.'s that have been sent to the brig and bn caught or turned in by recruits for certain things that are past criminal... marines tend to smile as pay back, when we hear stories of D.I.'s getting caught assualting or doing something criminal. kinda like getting revenge for our past experience with them pricks.... most marines dont even respect D.I. they are considered like teachers those that do, do and those that dont teach..


and i am sure they dont show the 10 seconds of chow.... sit down eat!!! stop!!! your done get up get out!!!!!!... ppl suffer from malnutrition and muscle mass... i lost 25 lbs and was put on double rats in my last month of booth camp and i was a jock my whole life. came in looking like a bad ass wolverine and came out looking like a 14 yr old skinny kid..took me 3 months for my body to recuperate its mass and muscles.. if your a real athlete boot camp will destroy your physical abilities if your a fatbody it will help you drop weigth and if you are average then it will help improve your body... basically it drops ppl to the same lvl of equality and in D.I. talk that is NASTY, AND GARBAGE.... for a very long time i hated the military not because it was hard but that i had constantly train to keep in shape because our training was low to what my body was used to. it was the whole point i had joined get paid to workout.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
most marines dont even respect D.I. they are considered like teachers those that do, do and those that dont teach..


and i am sure they dont show the 10 seconds of chow.... sit down eat!!! stop!!! your done get up get out!!!!!!...

I hate to disagree with ya brother but your "those that do, do and those that dont teach.." Is total BullS**t . When you are in the Marine Corps there are two Duties All Marines must do, D.I. and/or Recruiting.
The Marines that pic D.I. are Hard MF'ers. They Have to train 10 times harder than a recruit because they have to run circles around the recruits and be able to do every thing the Boots do but better. So they could have chose Recruiting Duty but didnt so. I had mad respect for them. And they were tryng to make us Killing Machines ,prepared fro War , so what they did was not personal and i would never get off on one of them losing their career because some shitbird felt like he was wronged and reported some of these tuff they did to us. I had an incident were the D.I. gave me a concussion , I went to sick-call and told them It happened in training. Well when I got in the FMF i was called by a Colonel from F.M.J.P. about the incident because some idiot reported it. I told the Colonel that it happened in training. If I told the truth It would have ruined SSgt. Jones career and I would never have done that.

But I do remember the chow hall. "Ok ladies you have 30 seconds....ready.....EAT ....30,27,23,19,15,12,9,5,3,1,Your Done." so you got about 10 seconds LOL

Semper Fidelis Devil-Dog

I'm a veteran of the U.S. Army, and the only good thing I got out of 4 years of service was a resume.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm a veteran of the U.S. Army, and the only good thing I got out of 4 years of service was a resume.

You're wrong.


You have the respect and appreciation of tens of millions of Americans.

Thanks. I guess you're right.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're wrong.


You have the respect and appreciation of tens of millions of Americans.

Very true.
Not everyone has what it takes to be a soldier

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm a veteran of the U.S. Army, and the only good thing I got out of 4 years of service was a resume.

What was your M.O.S.? Mine was 0311 Infantry and that didnt do a damn thing for me on a resume.

Qualifications. Jungle survival,land navigation, Crew serve weapons,Special weapons expert. Expert Marksman. So i can load an fire,accurately, an M2 .50 cal. That got me far lol

Did you serve "In Country"

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
What was your M.O.S.? Mine was 0311 Infantry and that didnt do a damn thing for me on a resume.

Qualifications. Jungle survival,land navigation, Crew serve weapons,Special weapons expert. Expert Marksman. So i can load an fire,accurately, an M2 .50 cal. That got me far lol

11B (Light Infantry) Airborne. ETS as an E-5, weapons specialist, combat trained, tour of duty in Kuwait and Iraq, leader of men, Purple Heart recipient.


It's all about how you word you resume together.

Originally posted by Impediment
11B (Light Infantry) Airborne. ETS as an E-5, weapons specialist, combat trained, tour of duty in Kuwait and Iraq, leader of men, Purple Heart recipient.


It's all about how you word you resume together.

Yeah I put that I served in Sarajevo in 93 and Bosnia 94 . E-5, Squad leader of 2 fire teams. Never earned a Purple Heart Thank God but I put all that. I dont think Civies care. But thats great that it helped you. These are different times. When i was in(Im Ancient) the military involvement was not so popular. No Patriotic fervor like it is now.

Civilians don't care...then again, should they?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Civilians don't care...then again, should they?

Are you stalking me Gav

Originally posted by Lycanthrope
Are you stalking me Gav

You can't escape Christ my son.

(The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith have put me on your case, to supress your heresies! :L)

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
You can't escape Christ my son.

(The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith have put me on your case, to supress your heresies! :L)

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Civilians don't care...then again, should they?


i really dont think they do..... sometimes its just a hallow gesture and a hand shake... often times i just want to beat them to a pulp or simply b left alone then to hear their.. insincere gratitude... or even day dream of shooting them..

jack nickleson said it best......

Well, maybe they don't really 'appreciate' it, but I've gotten enough free dinners in restaurants and free drinks in bars to know that at least some do. I have no problem with civilians.

i really hate them all..... i am sorry to say. i believe ppl should take pride in their appearance. and help build a better society thru polite and courteous manners... instead of the rude attitude ppl have because they feel laws will protect them and excuse their behavior from repercussions..

also hate the whole favortism and nepotism our country seems to suffer from.. if it was up to me i would take useless members of society who have no appreciation of the freedoms they enjoy and double tap them... hand the rest of the ppl the tools for hard working americans who struggle and cant seem to get ahead. and know the concept of hard work.