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No weapons or exotic powers allowed here. When Supes faces non-flyers, he cannot fly, but can do so against anyone else.

He gets a day of rest in between fights. How does he fare?

1. Martian Manhunter
2. Wonder Woman
3. Captain Marvel
4. Black Adam
5. Kurse
6. War Hulk
7. Thanos
8. Onslaught's physical form
9. Mindless Hulk

Stops at 3

Supes needs more than a day's rest to recover from a slugfest.

Stops at 7, or 4

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Stops at 3

Supes needs more than a day's rest to recover from a slugfest.

Even if that day of resting is spent.... IN THE SUN?!!? haw-som

Stops at 5

lulz at list order

I really can't see him getting past a few on this list.

Clears it.

Twice.

And a half.

What a Negative Nancy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
clears 1 - 3 twice... yeah I could see that but not much else
I couldn't hear you over the sound of my penis slapping your face.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
and you said you weren't gay... Don't worry philosophia I won't judge but others in this world might. Sorry, that is just hwo this world works. http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3295/1229596352824br1.gif

facepalm

Stops at 3.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Stops at 3

Supes needs more than a day's rest to recover from a slugfest.

Originally posted by batdude123
Even if that day of resting is spent.... IN THE SUN?!!? haw-som

clears the first four imo... dunno enough about kurse to judge...

Stops at 5. I'm assuming that 1 day is enough for him to fully recover from the previous battle. If it isn't, he stops at 3.

Probably could get past the first 4 (maybe), but 5 is just spite.

He loses 4 through 9.

Originally posted by D-Block
Stops at 3.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3295/1229596352824br1.gif lol so random

Originally posted by Enyalus
He loses 4 through 9.

Originally posted by batdude123
Even if that day of resting is spent.... IN THE SUN?!!? haw-som

.....uhuh

Kryptonian tech is magic. With a day to rest, he'd be fine. Plus he knows people with Motherboxes.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Kryptonian tech is magic. With a day to rest, he'd be fine. Plus he knows people with Motherboxes.

Originally posted by Raoul

Originally posted by Enyalus

Originally posted by Raoul
Stop spamming, plz.

Next times a warning.
Ty

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Stop spamming, plz.

Next times a warning.
Ty

your location sickens me.

Originally posted by Raoul
your location sickens me.




Helluva comeback.

Originally posted by Harbinger
No weapons or exotic powers allowed here. When Supes faces non-flyers, he cannot fly, but can do so against anyone else.

He gets a day of rest in between fights. How does he fare?

1. Martian Manhunter
2. Wonder Woman
3. Captain Marvel
4. Black Adam
5. Kurse
6. War Hulk
7. Thanos
8. Onslaught's physical form
9. Mindless Hulk


depends on supes mood, cap and BA most definitly can beat him.


If hes pissed i mean very pissed he might make it to thanos, but unless he sundipps and catches thanos off gaurd thons downs him np.

Originally posted by Raoul
your location sickens me. Technically I'm not anywhere bad... pervert.sick

Originally posted by Enyalus



Helluva comeback.



Originally posted by I'm Bran
Technically I'm not anywhere bad... pervert.sick

depends on your definition of bad, really.

Originally posted by zeel
If hes pissed i mean very pissed he might make it to thanos, but unless he sundipps and catches thanos off gaurd thons downs him np.

Even if he's totally bloodlusted ala Sacrifice arc he still doesn't get past War Hulk.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Even if he's totally bloodlusted ala Sacrifice arc he still doesn't get past War Hulk.

facepalm

Originally posted by Enyalus
Even if he's totally bloodlusted ala Sacrifice arc he still doesn't get past War Hulk.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/untitled-4.jpg

Originally posted by Raoul
facepalm

You want me to be more specific?

Wonder Woman 219, then.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You want me to be more specific?

Wonder Woman 219, then.

i hate you.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You want me to be more specific?

Wonder Woman 219, then. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/durdrop.gif

Originally posted by Raoul
i hate you.

I didn't say anything wrong. He was bloodlusted there. IMO, even going all out like he was in that instance which I provided as an example he wouldn't be able to take down War Hulk.

Originally posted by Raoul
depends on your definition of bad, really. I never said I was in any dark places.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I didn't say anything wrong. He was bloodlusted there. IMO, even going all out like he was in that instance which I provided as an example he wouldn't be able to take down War Hulk.



yes, because being a mind-controlled animal = his best.

paul

Originally posted by I'm Bran
I never said I was in any dark places.

that's a start...

Originally posted by Raoul
yes, because being a mind-controlled animal = his best.

You don't think that's how Supes would fight if bloodlusted? I do. He's shown that same kind of beastial nature in OWAW, too. And against Darkseid. Fair comparison. He thought he was fighting DD. That's the only difference the mind control made.

Originally posted by Raoul
facepalm Mythbuster time?

Originally posted by Enyalus
You don't think that's how Supes would fight if bloodlusted? I do. He's shown that same kind of beastial nature in OWAW, too. And against Darkseid. Fair comparison. He thought he was fighting DD. That's the only difference the mind control made.

in owaw he was still in control. he was out for blood, but he was fighting intelligently. he didn't do the same against diana, imo.

so not a fair comparison, imo...

Originally posted by Harbinger
Mythbuster time?

i did it before, i aint doing it again lol...

Originally posted by Raoul
in owaw he was still in control. he was out for blood, but he was fighting intelligently. he didn't do the same against diana, imo.

so not a fair comparison, imo...



i did it before, i aint doing it again lol... Quan?

mind controlled never = the real deal.

Originally posted by Raoul
in owaw he was still in control. he was out for blood, but he was fighting intelligently. he didn't do the same against diana, imo.

so not a fair comparison, imo...

I'm going to do bad things to you. Involving anal beads.

Originally posted by Juntai
mind controlled never = the real deal.

aye.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm going to do bad things to you. Involving anal beads.

maybe once bran is finished...

Originally posted by Juntai
mind controlled never = the real deal. mind controlled nvr = the real deal ?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
mind controlled nvr = the real deal ?



hysterical

He actually does have a decent shot at clearing it. Assuming he can use his speed and skills. Superman is the slugfest king, don't count him out.

Originally posted by Badabing
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/durdrop.gif

Profiled. thumbsupdur

Originally posted by Badabing
Quan? Raoul is Quans sock

Loses @ 5

4

clears it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
clears it. how does he actually put kurse down, seeing as supes cant fly against him and no bfr

Originally posted by Mindset
Raoul is Quans sock

warned for making me throw up in my own mouth.

Originally posted by Raoul
warned for making me throw up in my own mouth.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Profiled. thumbsupdur durw00tOriginally posted by Mindset
Raoul is Quans sock Originally posted by Raoul
warned for making me throw up in my own mouth.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
Stops at 5. I'm assuming that 1 day is enough for him to fully recover from the previous battle. If it isn't, he stops at 3.

Typo. Meant to write "Stops at 4."

Marvel and BA have a decent shot at stopping him. If they fail Kurse puts him down hard.

Originally posted by Nihilist
how does he actually put kurse down, seeing as supes cant fly against him and no bfr

Overwhealm him with superior speed, eventually kurse will KO'ed with enough high speed stirkes all over the place.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Overwhealm him with superior speed, eventually kurse will KO'ed with enough high speed stirkes all over the place. he is only affected by iron,thats it

Perhaps, but im thinking high speed punches from supes would eventually wear him down. Even if it doesn't there is no way for kurse to tag supes...so it would be a stalemate untill supes eventually wheathers him down.

Funny, I've never seen Kurse get tired.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Perhaps, but im thinking high speed punches from supes would eventually wear him down. Even if it doesn't there is no way for kurse to tag supes...so it would be a stalemate untill supes eventually wheathers him down. aint happening,supes cant put him down

And vice versa, kurse isn't touching supes.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
And vice versa, kurse isn't touching supes.

Prove that Kurse is slow.

Prove that kurse even approachings upes h2h speed, supes has the mobility/striking speed/reflex to ensure that kurse never lands a single blow.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
And vice versa, kurse isn't touching supes. kurse doesnt have to get past supes in this gauntlet,supes has to get past kurse.

plenty of bricks have tagged supes

Originally posted by Nihilist
plenty of bricks have tagged supes

You certainly don't come off good out of this discussion with statements like this. You sound like a Carver-lite, which isn't something to be proud of.

He aint getting past Kurse

Well I just wonder why you chose to envoke the full capcity forum rules on certain characters but when it comes to other characters you suddenly decide to make it a comic fight. With full capctity, we assume supes is in top form and fighting to the best of his abilities. Being tagged by slower opponents is a circumstance of CIS that is comic related, like how Thor might not BFR everyone at any given momment. Kurse is not laying a hand on him while supes would easily be able to EVENTUALLY put kurse down.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well I just wonder why you chose to envoke the full capcity forum rules on certain characters but when it comes to other characters you suddenly decide to make it a comic fight. With full capctity, we assume supes is in top form and fighting to the best of his abilities. Being tagged by slower opponents is a circumstance of CIS that is comic related, like how Thor might not BFR everyone at any given momment. Kurse is not laying a hand on him while supes would easily be able to EVENTUALLY put kurse down.

regardless of supes speed ,kurse CANT be put down without the use of iron

We've never seen Kurse durability pushed by a opponent of supes speed and striking power before however,has anyone ever mounted a sustained onslaught on him before at superspeed in the manner supes is capable of.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
We've never seen Kurse durability pushed by a opponent of supes speed and striking power before however,has anyone ever mounted a sustained onslaught on him before at superspeed in the manner supes is capable of.
kurse took a shot from the combined might of the stormbreaker and moljnir together with all the magic drained into one single blast,imo i doubt supes punches are anywhere a powerfull as that.

Probably not, although Supes strength was enough to intercept and block moljnir and cause njury a sourced powered IM so supes striking power coupled with his speed isn't exactly something kurse can walk though easily.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Probably not, although Supes strength was enough to intercept and block moljnir and cause njury a sourced powered IM so supes striking power coupled with his speed isn't exactly something kurse can walk though easily. im not saying supes punches are not hard.

has that cross over been stated as being cannon to marvel?

thors hammer floored thanos with the ig so... shrug

Nihilist

Versus

Galen

HHWS0H2JqSU

Stops at 4.

Originally posted by Nihilist
im not saying supes punches are not hard.

has that cross over been stated as being cannon to marvel?

thors hammer floored thanos with the ig so... shrug

Yes it's cannon.....although I'm sure Marvel wants to forget that one of there big names got a old school ass stomping.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nihilist

Versus

Galen

HHWS0H2JqSU lol,jeremy freedman

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nihilist

Versus

Galen

HHWS0H2JqSU

crylaugh

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yes it's cannon.....although I'm sure Marvel wants to forget that one of there big names got a old school ass stomping. Why would Marvel want to forget it, they don't care.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
clears it.

facepalm





Holy mother of God, please shove a lightning bolt up this fanboy's backside. Amen.

He clears it twice w/o any days of rest, don't be a Marvel fanboy Enyalus.

Originally posted by Mindset
He clears it twice w/o any days of rest, don't be a Marvel fanboy Enyalus.

What if Kyle was added to the gauntlet?

Originally posted by Enyalus
What if Kyle was added to the gauntlet?

Originally posted by Enyalus
What if Kyle was added to the gauntlet? Then of course Superman loses.

You might as well TOAA to the thread.

Originally posted by Mindset
Why would Marvel want to forget it, they don't care.

Of course they do, one of there biggest characters getting destroyed...takes away from Thor's appeal you know.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Of course they do, one of there biggest characters getting destroyed...takes away from Thor's appeal you know.

...Marvel co-published it. Meaning they signed off on the outcome.

Right, which means that even in there opinion Supes>>>Thor. Considering Thor is one of there top stars and story wise one of the most powerful heroes...marvel basically just stated Supes is a better hero then anything marvel has published lol.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right, which means that even in there opinion Supes>>>Thor. Considering Thor is one of there top stars and story wise one of the most powerful heroes...marvel basically just stated Supes is a better hero then anything marvel has published lol.

Did you even see the fight? It was pretty close. A lot closer than Supes vs. Hulk in DC vs. Marvel. But if anything, yeah, strengthwise Supes > Classic Thor.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right, which means that even in there opinion Supes>>>Thor. Considering Thor is one of there top stars and story wise one of the most powerful heroes...marvel basically just stated Supes is a better hero then anything marvel has published lol. better than surfer..hell no

Hey don't take it up with me, it marvel's opinion not mine...and where are you getting that it was close?

Oh and yeah he is better then SS, if the cross over ever happen again u know for a fact both companies would sign off on him thrashing norrin.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Right, which means that even in there opinion Supes>>>Thor. Considering Thor is one of there top stars and story wise one of the most powerful heroes...marvel basically just stated Supes is a better hero then anything marvel has published lol.

thor is NOT one of marvel's top stars. he's lucky if he's top 5. i doubt marvel really cared that superman knocked him down, as if anyone was going to do it, it was superman.

Who would you really consider one of the top stars....cause Hulk got pretty poor treatment to and I hoenstly doubt anyone on marvel's roster would have been given the win over Supes. Not to mention Thor's palcment story wise in terms of power speaks vollumes about how powerful marvel thinks supes is.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hey don't take it up with me, it marvel's opinion not mine...and where are you getting that it was close?

Thor landed several hits prior to that. He also walked through Superman's "Hotter than a star" HV. And Supes states afterwards Thor was the toughest opponent he ever faced.

Oh, and apparently it took enough out of Supes that he got his ass beat down by the rest of the Avengers after Thor got dropped.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Oh and yeah he is better then SS, if the cross over ever happen again u know for a fact both companies would sign off on him thrashing norrin.

The non-canon crossovers so far give the impression that SS > Supes. Even ones published by DC.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Who would you really consider one of the top stars....cause Hulk got pretty poor treatment to and I hoenstly doubt anyone on marvel's roster would have been given the win over Supes. Not to mention Thor's palcment story wise in terms of power speaks vollumes about how powerful marvel thinks supes is.

there's a reason he didn't go up against the silver surfer.

also, marvel's top stars:

logan, hulk, cap, spidey, iron man, the f4, the x-men (as a group)

thor isn't far behind, but he's not like dc are with superman.

Originally posted by Enyalus


Thor landed several hits prior to that. He also walked through Superman's "Hotter than a star" HV. And Supes states afterwards Thor was the toughest opponent he ever faced.

Oh, and apparently it took enough out of Supes that he got his ass beat down by the rest of the Avengers after Thor got dropped.



The non-canon crossovers so far give the impression that SS > Supes. Even ones published by DC.

How do u figure, the same non-canon crossovers indicated Supes>Thanos so how did u come to that conclusion....oh and supes handily took the fight and we all know the avengers deal afterwards was a load of PIS so don't even bring it up. LMAO at supes compliment...he's a nice guy what can I say.

Originally posted by Enyalus
And Supes states afterwards Thor was the toughest opponent he ever faced.

he does that all the time...

Originally posted by Raoul
there's a reason he didn't go up against the silver surfer.

also, marvel's top stars:

logan, hulk, cap, spidey, iron man, the f4, the x-men (as a group)

thor isn't far behind, but he's not like dc are with superman.

Only reaosn SS didn't go up agaisnt supes was due to SS low profile, otherwise we all know supes would have thrashed him.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Only reaosn SS didn't go up agaisnt supes was due to SS low profile, otherwise we all know supes would have thrashed him.

in a fight norrin would trash him. he's pretty much custom built to beat superman.

in a comic? norrin would probably lose, as he isnt as big a draw. though it would have to be through a slugfest to be in any way convincing, imo...

Not really, Supes has delt with far more versatile and powerful energy manips in the past...if anything SS supposed"custom built"power has already been countered in one way or another. Given Marvel's low opinion of SS especially with the armbar, I think it's safe to say supes would go through SS in about 4-5 panels. Anyhow as for this gauntlet, he clears it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Not really, Supes has delt with far more versatile and powerful energy manips in the past...if anything SS supposed"custom built"power has already been countered in one way or another. Given Marvel's low opinion of SS especially with the armbar, I think it's safe to say supes would go through SS in about 4-5 panels. Anyhow as for this gauntlet, he clears it.

facepalm

Hey u know it's true, comics are dicated by revenue and what sells....SS doesn't sell so I don't see why supes wouldnt just plow through him in 4-5 panels.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
How do u figure, the same non-canon crossovers indicated Supes>Thanos so how did u come to that conclusion

What are you talking about now?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
....oh and supes handily took the fight and we all know the avengers deal afterwards was a load of PIS so don't even bring it up.

Oh. I see. Supes catching a skyfather-enchanted magical hammer by someone who is close to his physical equal is fine, but Supes getting his ass beaten afterwards by a bunch of metas is PIS. Gotcha.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
LMAO at supes compliment...he's a nice guy what can I say.

That you like to argue with on-panel statements?

Originally posted by Raoul
he does that all the time...

He said that against Doomsday. Who else?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hey u know it's true, comics are dicated by revenue and what sells....SS doesn't sell so I don't see why supes wouldnt just plow through him in 4-5 panels.

in a crossover, yes.

in an actual non sales influenced fight? only if norrin tries to get physical.

Originally posted by Enyalus
He said that against Doomsday. Who else?

iirc, he's said it about adam, darkseid, even diana... i could be wrong though...

Originally posted by Enyalus


What are you talking about now?



Oh. I see. Supes catching a skyfather-enchanted magical hammer by someone who is close to his physical equal is fine, but Supes getting his ass beaten afterwards by a bunch of metas is PIS. Gotcha.



That you like to argue with on-panel statements?



He said that against Doomsday. Who else?

Supes is a nice guy, in-character he will never smack talk a guy especially after he has just beaten the living shit outta him. Being beaten by a bunch of meta's ...makes about as much sense as WW losing to storm.Although at least it took a group of meta's to put supes down and not just some black guy with a killer armbar lol.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Supes is a nice guy, in-character he will never smack talk a guy especially after he has just beaten the living shit outta him. Being beaten by a bunch of meta's ...makes about as much sense as WW losing to storm.Although at least it took a group of meta's to put supes down and not just some black guy with a killer armbar lol.

No, I want to know where you got the comics making Supes > Thanos. Which comic are you referencing. Even a situation would do.



And, how many times have you been warned about the armbar thing? 4 times? 5? More?

Originally posted by Raoul
in a crossover, yes.

in an actual non sales influenced fight? only if norrin tries to get physical.



iirc, he's said it about adam, darkseid, even diana... i could be wrong though...

In Diana's case, he was just trying to maneuver a 3sum with lois and her so that is understandbale. In forum rules,sales influenced rules....he takes it regardless friend .

Originally posted by Enyalus
No, I want to know where you got the comics making Supes > Thanos. Which comic are you referencing. Even a situation would do.



And, how many times have you been warned about the armbar thing? 4 times? 5? More?

Kyle stated it, forget which issue it was but he stated Supes was>Thanos in power. What's wrong with the armbar thing, I don't have any issues with it.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Kyle stated it, forget which issue it was but he stated Supes was>Thanos in power.

Yes, keep making things up. The only time Kyle mentions anything even close is during DC vs. Marvel when Kyle is forced to battle Surfer, and they regret it because of their past teamup in Green Lantern vs. Silver Surfer. Both of which are non-canon.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
What's wrong with the armbar thing, I don't have any issues with it.

Besides the mods having a problem with it, the same thing that's wrong with Supes being KO'd by a gas station.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
In Diana's case, he was just trying to maneuver a 3sum with lois and her so that is understandbale. In forum rules,sales influenced rules....he takes it regardless friend .

forum rules, with surfer wielding the power cosmic smartly? superman has less hope of winning that than he does of getting that threesome...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Kyle stated it, forget which issue it was but he stated Supes was>Thanos in power. What's wrong with the armbar thing, I don't have any issues with it.



So Supes being taken out by a "bunch of metas" is PIS but your fine with one meta armbarring Surfer?

Originally posted by Raoul
forum rules, with surfer wielding the power cosmic smartly? superman has less hope of winning that than he does of getting that threesome...

With supes fighting smarlty with superior stats and a plot device T-VO, SS is easiar then nailing a 3sum.

Originally posted by tdazz
So Supes being taken out by a "bunch of metas" is PIS but your fine with one meta armbarring Surfer?



SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.

Supes gets KO'd by gas station explosions. SS causes planet-sized explosions.

SS kills Supes easily.

How easy was that to take one showing and base your entire opinion off it?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
With supes fighting smarlty with superior stats and a plot device T-VO, SS is easiar then nailing a 3sum.

no.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.

the armbar is spidey firelord. its not a valid argument.

it was a bullshit comic.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Supes gets KO'd by gas station explosions. SS causes planet-sized explosions.

SS kills Supes easily.

How easy was that to take one showing and base your entire opinion off it?

Yeah but a explosion is more powerful then a simple submission though...and u were the one low balling supes with the ruin thing awhile ago so are you really in any position to talk.

Originally posted by Raoul
no.



the armbar is spidey firelord. its not a valid argument.

it was a bullshit comic.

1.Yes, just look at the feats.

2. I don't think it was BS personally.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
SS doesn't have MA and is overall a shitty fighter up close, seems consistent with his character and BP is a god -like MA afterall.




Dude you just called the entire Avengers putting a weakend Supes down PIS and then turn around and say that Black Panther forcibly putting Surfer in a hammer lock is fine? I really don't know what to say to this other than ask how are you even allowed to post here?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Kyle stated it, forget which issue it was but he stated Supes was>Thanos in power. What's wrong with the armbar thing, I don't have any issues with it. Kyle never said that.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
1.Yes, just look at the feats.

2. I don't think it was BS personally.

i know both man's feats. surfer has comparable speed, and can blast clark. it won't be easy, but there's no way superman should be beating norrin in anything other than a slugfest.

how can you not? you can't armbar someone thousands of times stronger than you. you can try, sure. and riding the board? mcduffie doesn't know shit about surfer. he seems to know less about norrin than he does about clark, and thats saying something.

mcduffie offered an apology afterwards anyways.

Originally posted by Raoul
surfer has comparable speed, and can blast clark.

...

You can't armbar someone who is at least 100 times stronger than you.

Originally posted by tdazz


Dude you just called the entire Avengers putting a weakend Supes down PIS and then turn around and say that Black Panther forcibly putting Surfer in a hammer lock is fine? I really don't know what to say to this other than ask how are you even allowed to post here?

ive been wondering the same thing. he doesnt even read the comics he just makes flase statements as he has shown once again in this thread

I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.

Supes situation was pure PIS because there have been other instances of supes withstanding more physically demanding beatings while weakened and hsurviving just fine.

Originally posted by Raoul
i know both man's feats. surfer has comparable speed, and can blast clark. it won't be easy, but there's no way superman should be beating norrin in anything other than a slugfest.

how can you not? you can't armbar someone thousands of times stronger than you. you can try, sure. and riding the board? mcduffie doesn't know shit about surfer. he seems to know less about norrin than he does about clark, and thats saying something.

mcduffie offered an apology afterwards anyways.

1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.

2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.

Supes situation was pure PIS because there have been other instances of supes withstanding more physically demanding beatings while weakened and hsurviving just fine. http://gloomyvegan.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/retard.jpg

Originally posted by The Great Galen
I gave my reasons, SS doesn't have a wealth of impressive combat or MA showings and BP is a formidable h2h fighter. Maybe it was slighlt PIS because BP doesn't have the physical strength requried, but SS's strength seems to flutate a lot so I don't know if at his base he even approaches class 100.

SS is literally, at bare minimum, a billion times stronger, if not moreso. He's overpowered the Hulk twice physically before his recent upgrade from Galactus, and was even physically stalemating Champion with the Quantum Bands (which gave him even greater power than with the Power Gem.)


Also, he can phase like J'onn can. In other words, yes, it was PIS. Unquestionably.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.

2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then? someone who knows far more about superman pwned you, call it quits.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
1.SS doesn't have comparable speed, he has travelling speed and some rare instances of intiation blast superfast....all which supes has in spades and to far more impressive degrees.

2. When did mc apologize, it was written off then?

ss does have comparable speed. you could argue for either. Superman fights on earth more than ss, so has to have more showings, but norrin has done enough to warrant him being fast.

as fast as superman? not imo, but close enough.

he apologised soon after the comic came out, saying he'd misunderstood the nature of the surfer's physical form, or something...

This thread should be closed.

Originally posted by batdude123
This thread should be closed.

i was going to say something like 'you first' but...

Originally posted by Raoul
i was going to say something like 'you first' but...

barker

Originally posted by Raoul
ss does have comparable speed. you could argue for either. Superman fights on earth more than ss, so has to have more showings, but norrin has done enough to warrant him being fast.

as fast as superman? not imo, but close enough.

he apologised soon after the comic came out, saying he'd misunderstood the nature of the surfer's physical form, or something...

1. Again, not talking about travelling speed I mean how they ultalize speed in combat...most marvel top tiers seem to have a issue of not being able to fight at the same speed that they fly. He has comparable travel feats but not combat feats so there is a difference.

2. Untill marvel makes a comment about that particular situation being the cause of"insert plot device explanation here"I still see it as a valid gauge of Marvel's opinion of SS power.

Raoul...why are you even trying?

Take this to the Silver Surfer/Superman thread.

Closing...

Originally posted by The Great Galen
2. Untill marvel makes a comment about that particular situation being the cause of"insert plot device explanation here"I still see it as a valid gauge of Marvel's opinion of SS power.

I see him taking out two Galactus-level beings as Marvel's gauge of SS's power.

When did that happen, u mean when he redirected the crunche energies to 2 weakened galactus level beings after galactus pretty much did all the work since SS was literally getting his ass gang raped?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
after galactus pretty much did all the work

facepalm



Please read the comics you post about before posting.

So SS wasn't almost killed untill Galactus saved him?

I think Supes would have an advantage over SS in a straight fight. But he couldn't put him away before Norrin's other ablilities took their toll.

As far as the Avengers dropping Supes; I thought Supes did well in that scenario. Getting jumped by Herc w/mace, Wonderman, She-Hulk, and MotherBox enhanced Iron Man AFTER going to the mat against Thor. The fact that he got back up says a lot...

Originally posted by batdude123
barker



Originally posted by The Great Galen
1. Again, not talking about travelling speed I mean how they ultalize speed in combat...most marvel top tiers seem to have a issue of not being able to fight at the same speed that they fly. He has comparable travel feats but not combat feats so there is a difference.

2. Untill marvel makes a comment about that particular situation being the cause of"insert plot device explanation here"I still see it as a valid gauge of Marvel's opinion of SS power.

anyone who travels at the speeds the surfer travels at HAS to have at least some sense of comparable reflex speed, or else they'd fly through planets half the time... norrin has the feats to say he's fast enough.

i wasn't asking. ss v bp is the equivalent of spidey firelord. don't bring it up again.

if mcduffie had the good sense to apologise for it, then there's no way it's being allowed on the forum as any kind of argument.

now. no more superman surfer stuff.

He still should have just shrugged them all off, but meh comics have wonky logic sometimes.

Originally posted by Raoul




anyone who travels at the speeds the surfer travels at HAS to have at least some sense of comparable reflex speed, or else they'd fly through planets half the time... norrin has the feats to say he's fast enough.

i wasn't asking. ss v bp is the equivalent of spidey firelord. don't bring it up again.

if mcduffie had the good sense to apologise for it, then there's no way it's being allowed on the forum as any kind of argument.

now. no more superman surfer stuff.

Alright fine, but before I drop it let me correct you on something. Navigation reflex is not a transferable skill to combat...otherwise every pilot/nascar driver in the world would all be MMA champs. Combat is a specialty, developing the skillsets of speed,strength,timing,reflex and there application in conjunction with attacking and counter-attacking is literally its own small scienece. Naviagtion and combat are 2 different things entirly....not comparable whatsoever. As for the whole SS thing, IMO it's viable.