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The fight takes place on earth who wins?

Endless stalemate. Neither of them can kill each other.

ST

Swamp thing.... Essentially he could destroy all tech in the arena which would bfr cyborgs essence...

Whereas to do the same to the green you would have to destroy the whole arena

Originally posted by rotiart
Swamp thing.... Essentially he could destroy all tech in the arena which would bfr cyborgs essence...

Whereas to do the same to the green you would have to destroy the whole arena

Which Henshaw is easily capable of doing.

Atomizing plant life is generally far easier than trying to atomize tech. On top of that, Henshaw has assimilated non-tech before.

Originally posted by golem370
The fight takes place on earth who wins? So the entire earth is the battlefield? If so, Swamp Thing ftw.

Henshaw's soul finally rests in peace

Originally posted by Galan007
So the entire earth is the battlefield? If so, Swamp Thing ftw.

Just curious as to how you reached this conclusion.

Destroying a planet isn't beyond Henshaw...

I know ST is supposed to be pretty uber, yet I don't see how plant life can compare with high tech personalized weaponry.

It's pretty much a stalemate.

Originally posted by Avlon
Just curious as to how you reached this conclusion.

Destroying a planet isn't beyond Henshaw...

I know ST is supposed to be pretty uber, yet I don't see how plant life can compare with high tech personalized weaponry. Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life , reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'

However, I was thinking of something along the lines of ST merging with Edenwood again. That stuff made ST so uber that he was able to defeat higher-level demons. Hell, he even became impervious to their magical attacks.

Or I guess he could send Henshaw's consciousness to a limbo zone, like he did to Captain Atom and Red Tornado.

Meh, ermm.

Swamp Thing doesn't NEED earth. He can reform on other planets.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life , reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'

Nothing Henshaw can't do as well. Sounds stalematish...

Originally posted by Galan007
However, I was thinking of something along the lines of ST merging with Edenwood again. That stuff made ST so uber that he was able to defeat higher-level demons. Hell, he even became impervious to their magical attacks.

Henshaw has one shotted Herald level characters, so at most, it seems stalematish.

Originally posted by Galan007
Or I guess he could send Henshaw's consciousness to a limbo zone, like he did to Captain Atom and Red Tornado.

This sounds interesting. Unless it' something on par with Parallax or a fully powered OE though, I'd need to see that in effect. Willhunters, and Geneti-locks should be equally effective on Henshaws end...and so should the rings.

I'm still seeing tech as the more effective option.

Originally posted by Galan007
Meh, ermm.

Pretty much. I'm seeing a stalemate since there is no death for either.

Originally posted by cloud102
Swamp Thing doesn't NEED earth. He can reform on other planets.

This applies to both characters.

Originally posted by Avlon
This sounds interesting. Unless it' something on par with Parallax or a fully powered OE though, I'd need to see that in effect. Willhunters, and Geneti-locks should be equally effective on Henshaws end...and so should the rings.

I'm still seeing tech as the more effective option. Captain Atom and Red Tornado pissed ST off - so to teach them a lesson, he forcibly sent their consciousness' to a limbo zone. Once they 'submitted' ST brought them back. Despite what many people think he's far more than a character who just controls plant life.

Anyhow, I'll give you your stalemate.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if Henshaw were to atomize the planet, he would not kill ST. In fact, ST's consciousness could seek out other forms of plant life , reform, and return to Henshaw's locale - all in a 'reasonable amount of time.'
"Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. "

Originally posted by I'm Bran
"Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. " "If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost."

Originally posted by Galan007
"If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost." He's not being removed from the battle field against his will though, he'd be leaving because he has to to stay in the fight. Therefore forfeiting the match.

We wouldn't allow Superman to leave the battle field to go sundip (which he could do in a 'reasonable amount of time'), so why would we allow ST to go and reform many light years away?

Originally posted by I'm Bran
He's not being removed from the battle field against his will though, he'd be leaving because he has to to stay in the fight. Therefore forfeiting the match. If the planet is atomized, technically there would no longer be a 'battlefield' for ST to leave. HAHA!!

Anyhow, I don't recall Henshaw ever actually destroying a planet comprable to earth, on panel. So that part of the debate is moot.

No to mention destroying =/= atomizing.

Originally posted by Galan007
If the planet is atomized, technically there would no longer be a 'battlefield' for ST to leave. HAHA!!

Anyhow, I don't recall Henshaw ever actually destroying a planet comprable to earth, on panel. So that part of the debate is moot.
That took you a while didn't it?

Of course, but that's all opinion. People think he has the power, so they'll say he can.
I don't recall him destroying a planet... but meh.

Originally posted by I'm Bran

That took you a while didn't it? Had to clean up the house a bit.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Of course, but that's all opinion. People think he has the power, so they'll say he can.
I don't recall him destroying a planet... but meh. If he's never destroyed a planet any other time on panel, there is no reason to think it's a tactic he would/could use here.

Originally posted by Galan007
Had to clean up the house a bit.

If he's never destroyed a planet any other time on panel, there is no reason to think it's a tactic he would/could use here. Oh you, and your jokes.

Of course, but I came in with the scenario already played. People always want to say... things for there character to somehow win. Look at all the Surfer threads. Etc.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
Oh you, and your jokes.If only it were...

Originally posted by I'm Bran
People always want to say... things for there character to somehow win. Look at all the Surfer threads. Etc. Was this directed at me?

Originally posted by Galan007
If only it were...

Was this directed at me? One after another. You are a trooper.

It was directed at people... so no.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
One after another. You are a trooper.

It was directed at people... so no. .......... Doopadie Doo.. umpa2

Originally posted by Galan007
.......... Doopadie Doo.. umpa2 The left one is impotent.

Originally posted by I'm Bran
The left one is impotent. = you. vin

Originally posted by Galan007
Captain Atom and Red Tornado pissed ST off - so to teach them a lesson, he forcibly sent their consciousness' to a limbo zone. Once they 'submitted' ST brought them back. Despite what many people think he's far more than a character who just controls plant life.

Anyhow, I'll give you your stalemate.

Pleasure doing business with you ol' chum.

As for other comments, it of course should be possible for both to destroy the planet, but there isn't solid evidence to back it up save when Henshaw met Surfer.

Even if there was solid evidence on both ends, it's not like anything would change with the outcome.

Originally posted by Avlon
Pleasure doing business with you ol' chum.

As for other comments, it of course should be possible for both to destroy the planet, but there isn't solid evidence to back it up save when Henshaw met Surfer.

Even if there was solid evidence on both ends, it's not like anything would change with the outcome. I agree. However, since Hank's never actually destroyed a world on panel, we can't assume it's something he could/would do here. As far as I'm concerned, this fight will start, and end, on it's original battlefield - which is good because that will allow both of them to function at/near their max potential.

Doesn't Swampie still retain the god-like elemental powers from the parliaments?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Doesn't Swampie still retain the god-like elemental powers from the parliaments? No, he gave those up. If he still had them, this would be spite.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, he gave those up. If he still had them, this would be spite. Much like most of these current Darkseid threads with the ale against characters like Juggernaut.

Pretty much. ermm

Its a bit different from this fight but a crazed Superman has fought Swamp Thing ages ago. Swamp Thing took the punishment and came back for more. Swamp Thing taking the heat vision was drawn nicely and i wish i could find the issue to post the scans.

Bump to more current levels

Swampy