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Black Racer
Superboy Prime
Neron

vs.

Destroyer
Desak
Surtur
Absorbing Man



2 seconds prep.

Team one for the majority.

Replikon would have been better.

Team one

WW FTW .....err .... team speed for majority.

Superboy prime is a flash villain?

Team 1 stomps.

Originally posted by Avlon
Team 1 stomps.

Who is inside the destroyer armor?

Ppl who said Team 1 stomps... Who do you guys think will go head to head with Surtur by the way?

What is absorbing man going to do here? He gets oneshotted by practically anyone on team 1.

Originally posted by Naija boy
What is absorbing man going to do here? He gets oneshotted by practically anyone on team 1.

Originally posted by Naija boy
What is absorbing man going to do here? He gets oneshotted by practically anyone on team 1.
He touches the destroyer Armor.

Prime solos team while singing "Up town girl".

Originally posted by steverules_2
Superboy prime is a flash villain?

According to Fangirl he is....Unless Surtur has Twilight team 1 wins

Originally posted by Avlon
Team 1 stomps. How do they stomp?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How do they stomp?
Zoom-Hit harder then superman. Faster then all flashs.
Black Racer- Faster then anyone(just enough to catch you)
Superboy Prime-Self explanatory
Nero-is not needed to win

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Zoom-Hit harder then superman. Faster then all flashs.
Black Racer- Faster then anyone(just enough to catch you)
Superboy Prime-Self explanatory
Nero-is not needed to win Do you honestly think he hits harder than Superman?

What are his punches going to do to to the destroyer?

You realize destroyer can kill them with his incinerator beam.


Surtur is at Odin level. Black Racer has never really proven himself one way or the other.

team 2

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you honestly think he hits harder than Superman?

What are his punches going to do to to the destroyer?

You realize destroyer can kill them with his incinerator beam.


Surtur is at Odin level. Black Racer has never really proven himself one way or the other.
You do realize that it was stated that Zoom hits harder then Superman. BF can also kill easily. SMP will destroy them as well. Destroyer isn't hitting anyone

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You do realize that it was stated that Zoom hits harder then Superman. BF can also kill easily. SMP will destroy them as well. Destroyer isn't hitting anyone Do you also believe WW is faster than Superman?

Who has the Black racer killed in combat?

Lots of characters have hit Prime before. he has never speedblitzed someone to attack them so why does he do that now?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you also believe WW is faster than Superman?

Who has the Black racer killed in combat?

Lots of characters have hit Prime before. he has never speedblitzed someone to attack them so why does he do that now? WW isn't faster then Superman. B kills anyone he touches. SMP by forum rules and other character have to fight at the best of their abilities.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You do realize that it was stated that Zoom hits harder then Superman. BF can also kill easily. SMP will destroy them as well. Destroyer isn't hitting anyone

How is Prime harming the Dread Destroyer

He isn't standing up to the Destroyer's ultimate weapon

Originally posted by guy222
How is Prime harming the Dread Destroyer

He isn't standing up to the Destroyer's ultimate weapon I said he isn't going to get hit

He has stood up to more and survived.

Surter and Destroyer takes this by themselves.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
WW isn't faster then Superman. B kills anyone he touches. SMP by forum rules and other character have to fight at the best of their abilities. It was stated in a comic. So I guess when it suits you regardless of their history and feats you use it,but when it doesn't you completely disregard it.

We can't have him do something he has never done before just so the team you want to win wins this fight.

Originally posted by guy222
How is Prime harming the Dread Destroyer

He isn't standing up to the Destroyer's ultimate weapon Originally posted by xJLxKing
I said he isn't going to get hit Who has failed to hit him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was stated in a comic. So I guess when it suits you regardless of their history and feats you use it,but when it doesn't you completely disregard it.

We can't have him do something he has never done before just so the team you want to win wins this fight.
Do you hear yourself? It was stated, so yeah it should be taken as a fact!! Duh!! unless other wise stated. Same goes for SMP, he is a buffed up version of Superman(Current). As far as I am concerned, Superman can Speed Blitz so SMP can too

What is a speed blitz going to do to the Destroyer?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You do realize that it was stated that Zoom hits harder then Superman. That's however entirely untrue, those type of character claims don't mean much. Unless you believe Superman, when he says Guy Garder hits harder than Doomsday. They're meant more for affect than anything, to help a reader understand the level a guy is working at, other than that, those claims are a dime a dozen.


It's also been stated Captain Marvel hits harder than Superman.
Yet, Superman says Black Adam hit's harder than Captain Marvel.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Do you hear yourself? It was stated, so yeah it should be taken as a fact!! Duh!! unless other wise stated. Same goes for SMP, he is a buffed up version of Superman(Current). As far as I am concerned, Superman can Speed Blitz so SMP can too Then ww hits harder than Superman also going by that same logic.


The point is in everyone of Prime's fights he has been hit in an extended fight. Comics back me up.

Superman hits harder than Zoom also imo.

Originally posted by frommd
What is a speed blitz going to do to the Destroyer? Exactly.

Team 2 ftw, surtur and the destroyer wreck em

Hmm. Well if absorbing man touches the destroyer armour then we have two destroyers walking around plus Surtur and Desak. Lean towards team 2 then

Team Two.

Desak should be able to handle BR, IMO.

How is that? Black Racer isn't really a god. I think Black Racer tips the scale. He's just another manistation of Death.

Originally posted by cloud102
How is that? Black Racer isn't really a god. I think Black Racer tips the scale. He's just another manistation of Death.

Black Racer's a New God.

Flash Villains for the majority.


Waaaayyyy too fast to handle.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Black Racer's a New God.



Nah, it was revealed to be a form of DEATH. Just like Black Flash.

Originally posted by cloud102
Nah, it was revealed to be a form of DEATH. Just like Black Flash.

Stupid DC with their stupid retcons forcing me to read more DC so I become aware of more of their retcons...

It's a scam.

Well, they ARE lacking in sales. Can't blame them.

Anyway, Team Flash ftw.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Flash Villains for the majority.


Waaaayyyy too fast to handle. But they can't destroy the destroyer or Surtur imo. How do they win?

Death just rips the soul from Destroyer armor.

Originally posted by cloud102
Death just rips the soul from Destroyer armor. When has he done this? Is this more fc stuff?

Thor's enemies take it

No, it's just what he does. His touch is insant death if he wants it to be. The only time he was ever thwarted was when Flash outran him. But then again, I think he mentioned that he could eventually catch him if he wanted to.

Black Racer is just a form of Death and he moves beyond the speeds of light.

Originally posted by guy222
Thor's enemies take it

Not with Death there, they aren't. Sorry.

Originally posted by cloud102
No, it's just what he does. His touch is insant death if he wants it to be. The only time he was ever thwarted was when Flash outran him. But then again, I think he mentioned that he could eventually catch him if he wanted to.

Black Racer is just a form of Death and he moves beyond the speeds of light. So he can kill anyone he touches?


Do you really think he can just beat the destroyer with a touch?

He probably can't damage it, but he can take it's life force within. Nothing escapes Death, if BR wants it to. Besides, BR is immortal. There is nothing Destroyer can do really. I haven't seen BR ever be destroyed, but I could be wrong.

Originally posted by cloud102
He probably can't damage it, but he can take it's life force within. Nothing escapes Death, if BR wants it to. Besides, BR is immortal. There is nothing Destroyer can do really. I haven't seen BR ever be destroyed, but I could be wrong.

Just because you're immortal, that doesn't save you from getting your ass beaten by a stronger opponent. Not even a dumb immortal wants to stay in a fight where they are getting their ass handed to them like the Destroyer could do.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Just because you're immortal, that doesn't save you from getting your ass beaten by a stronger opponent. Not even a dumb immortal wants to stay in a fight where they are getting their ass handed to them like the Destroyer could do.

How can you be stronger than Death? When has Black Racer ever been denied?

Originally posted by cloud102
He probably can't damage it, but he can take it's life force within. Nothing escapes Death, if BR wants it to. Besides, BR is immortal. There is nothing Destroyer can do really. I haven't seen BR ever be destroyed, but I could be wrong.

when has blackracer accomplished such a task against something like the destroyer? iirc maestro was actually dead when he animated the destroyer armour anyways.

Taking Highfather, IIRC. His primary targets are New Gods, I believe, but he's been after other beings as well.

Originally posted by cloud102
Taking Highfather, IIRC. His primary targets are New Gods, I believe, but he's been after other beings as well.

Doesnt it have something to do with it being their time to die or something? Can he just go around killing people? Especially since the norse death god is hela shoudnt it be outside his jurisdiction.

team one have the edge mainly due to prime,WTF is absorbing man doing here.seems as though it was lopsided on purpose.

Originally posted by cloud102
Not with Death there, they aren't. Sorry.

He's an avatar of Death I believe

He has some emotion when Supes pleaded with him regarding John's life

U like the Flash team. Coolies

Thor's enemies IMO FTW

Originally posted by Nihilist
team one have the edge mainly due to prime,WTF is absorbing man doing here.seems as though it was lopsided on purpose.

I was wonderin the same but it seems he is here to absorb the destroyer armour.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I was wonderin the same but it seems he is here to absorb the destroyer armour. imo he's not clever enough to even think to do that.besides he prolly gets one shotted at the start.

Originally posted by Nihilist
imo he's not clever enough to even think to do that.besides he prolly gets one shotted at the start.

true he is a pretty dumb character.

If AM can touch the destroyer armor Team Two wins. If he can't Team 1 wins.

poor creel

Originally posted by fangirl101
Zoom
Black Racer
Superboy Prime
Neron

vs.

Destroyer
Desak
Surtur
Absorbing Man



2 seconds prep.



I'm not extremely familiar with DC but I don't think anything will make much of a difference against Surtur. Those other guys can help too.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Zoom-Hit harder then superman. Faster then all flashs.
Black Racer- Faster then anyone(just enough to catch you)
Superboy Prime-Self explanatory
Nero-is not needed to win


Nope supes hits much harder, just zoom hits more often by the time hes done it may feel like he hit harder but supes is much stronger.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
You do realize that it was stated that Zoom hits harder then Superman. BF can also kill easily. SMP will destroy them as well. Destroyer isn't hitting anyone


Where was it stated Zoom hit harder then superman?

Originally posted by Juntai
That's however entirely untrue, those type of character claims don't mean much. Unless you believe Superman, when he says Guy Garder hits harder than Doomsday. They're meant more for affect than anything, to help a reader understand the level a guy is working at, other than that, those claims are a dime a dozen.


It's also been stated Captain Marvel hits harder than Superman.
Yet, Superman says Black Adam hit's harder than Captain Marvel.


Exactly kinda like when supes beats someone and stands over there body and says.............Whoaa that was possibly the toughest opponent ive.....


he says it all the time its meant more outta respect or to describe the situation at hand. Its not always meant to be taken literally i would think.

The destroyer is getting no credit here. Id like to see the flash's stand up to a dozen celestials.

Originally posted by cloud102
He probably can't damage it, but he can take it's life force within. Nothing escapes Death, if BR wants it to. Besides, BR is immortal. There is nothing Destroyer can do really. I haven't seen BR ever be destroyed, but I could be wrong. So,you really believe Black Racer is unbeatable?

Originally posted by Naija boy
Doesnt it have something to do with it being their time to die or something? Can he just go around killing people? Especially since the norse death god is hela shoudnt it be outside his jurisdiction. Correct. Black Racer doesn't go around exterminating people and we haven't seen him destroy anyone in battle close to the destroyer.

Well i really don't know what he has going for him if he isn't allowed to kill people in this battle. Then all he has is the ability to travel fast on skis. also destroyer was being amped by all the gods of Norse myth when went up against a celestial and it still got owned mighty quickly iirc.

Originally posted by UKR
I'm not extremely familiar with DC but I don't think anything will make much of a difference against Surtur. Those other guys can help too. Neron is skyfather level and he would put up a good fight against Surtur.

Why is Absorbing Man here?

Originally posted by Mindset
Why is Absorbing Man here?
because He can touch Surtur's sword or the destroyer.

You can touch mine.

Originally posted by Mindset
You can touch mine.
Perma-ignore

I call seconds.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I call seconds.
Perma-seconds-ignore.

I don't know why people continue to debate. Nobody here knew Black Racer was an agent of Death.

I did.

Do I win a prize?

Yeah, how about fangirl?

Nevermind, I didn't know. >_>

Hahahahahahha!