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I typed this in the search bar 3 times and it came up blank. I apparently might of spelled apprentice wrong.
But anyways Dante (devil may cry) vs the apprentice (Force Unleashed)
Both are leveled up to high capacity with all their powers and strengths. Who would dominate?

Probably Dante. Pandora? QS? DoppleGanger? Yamato? E&I? Telekenesis? Lucifer? Devil Trigger? Gilgamesh? Ifrit? Beowulf? Sparda's Form?

Galen Marek makes a gesture and pops Dante's head.

Son of Sparda versus Darth Vader's apprentice. I'm going with the apprentice. I enjoy Star Wars more than Devil May Cry.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I enjoy Star Wars more than Devil May Cry. The most intelligent thing you or anyone(except for me) have ever posted.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Galen Marek makes a gesture and pops Dante's head.

Dante uses Bangle of Time, and then Judgment Cuts The Apprentice, and cuts him in half.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Dante uses Bangle of Time, and then Judgment Cuts The Apprentice, and cuts him in half. And he'll do this faster than Galen Marek makes a gesture, right?

Galen Marek can easily keep Dante immobile with the Force, which will make him powerless so he can slice him to pieces, pop his head, crush his insides, or send him to space.

If he uses the Bangle, the entire world stops. Or Dante can go Sparda's Form sending a unblockable Dragon at Galen and doesn't he have to "concentrate" before he can do all of that? I'm going to be honest. I really don't know anything about Galen, so I really don't know what the bastard can do.

He needed to concentrate to grab and pull down a kilometer long, several thousand ton Star Destroyer, will he need to concentrate on Dante? Not so much.

Dante is held by Galen's TK before he can do anything, then dies in whatever way Galen views fit.

Not if time is stopped he can't. And Dante, can be held by Soul Eaters so what makes him any different?

Because Soul Eaters can't overpower and pull a friggin Star Destroyer from lower orbit maybe?

Are you serious?

And can Dante stop time before Galen makes a quick gesture and immobilizes him?

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Galen Marek makes a gesture and pops Dante's head.

Coming from the guy who completely hates dante.... no offense but when it comes to threads with dante in it your very biased to the opponent because you have some kind of grudge against him

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
He needed to concentrate to grab and pull down a kilometer long, several thousand ton Star Destroyer, will he need to concentrate on Dante? Not so much.

Dante is held by Galen's TK before he can do anything, then dies in whatever way Galen views fit.

Emphasised..

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Because Soul Eaters can't overpower and pull a friggin Star Destroyer from lower orbit maybe?

Are you serious?

And can Dante stop time before Galen makes a quick gesture and immobilizes him?

Probably can. How fast can he do it? It only takes Dante 1 sec. to stop time.

It takes the average human an 8th of a second to move his hand, I.E., a gesture. It takes a force enhanced jedi a quarter of that time.

So, yeah. In a 16th of a second Dante's head will pop off.

A 16th of a second is 3.75 times faster than a second, meaning, Galen could pop his head or snap his neck 3 times, almost a fourth time, before Dante could stop time once.

lulZ. This is damn near spite.

Dante tossed giant demons around like rag dolls sure but Starkiller pulling a star destroyer down and causing it to crash is more impressive.

If Dante even tried to shoot him, Starkiller would just use the force to stop the bullets and push em back at Dante.

It'd be humerous if a star destroyer were to interrupt the fight and Starkiller would just use the force to pull that sucker down on Dante.

It might take him shorter with The Bangle. Chrono Heart?

Might.

lolZ. Right. There's no weasiling out of the fact that Dante simply can't do any attacks faster than a powerful Jedi like Marek can wield the force. There's no proof saying otherwise. "maybe" he can do this, cause him losing would be so mean!

Or maybe Galen will turn intangible and blow up the planet with a fart .2 seconds in to the match.

Hence, it's a stomp.

I mean it might take shorter idk.

Even if it could, which you'd have to prove, you would then have to quantify how much shorter exactly, otherwise there's no point. Know what I mean, sexy?

I'll have to check or some shit. I will have to play The Force Unleashed at that.

You have never even played the game?

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Even if it could, which you'd have to prove, you would then have to quantify how much shorter exactly, otherwise there's no point. Know what I mean, sexy?

I believe you in all, but could you show me where it says that the apprentice can react to 1/16 of a second?

An d quick silver does make dante many times faster, nearly slowing time down to a stop; not quite, but it gets close. That and the fact taht dante is naturally very fast may be faster than 1/16 of a second.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
You have never even played the game?

Why do you think I said "I really don't know anything about Galen? "

Originally posted by k1Lla441
I believe you in all, but could you show me where it says that the apprentice can react to 1/16 of a second?

An d quick silver does make dante many times faster, nearly slowing time down to a stop; not quite, but it gets close. That and the fact taht dante is naturally very fast may be faster than 1/16 of a second.

Don't forget Chrono Heart & Bangle of Time

If i'm not mistaken, Galen can't hit it off just like that.

Starkiller wins. This isn't even funny.

Well, to be accurate and fair, I've never seen Galen actually freeze anyone in place. Nor have I seen him actually crush an organic opponent before... He did however, lift the Bull Rancor into the air and slam him THRU the ground.

I forgot even if he is choking him, Dante can summon Spiral Swords/Doppleganger or enable QS. And can he do do any to Dante, if he's teleporting?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Well, to be accurate and fair, I've never seen Galen actually freeze anyone in place. Nor have I seen him actually crush an organic opponent before... He did however, lift the Bull Rancor into the air and slam him THRU the ground. Force Crush is a Sith TK Force Power, and he has done it to entire AT-ST two-legged Walkers...Why can't he do it to a flesh and blood being?

I'll tell you why. The game is rated teen.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
I believe you in all, but could you show me where it says that the apprentice can react to 1/16 of a second?

Because the average human's can move his hand at least six inches in an 8th of a second... and the force gives force users reflexes that are multiple times faster than even the fastest human.

Thus, he is faster than an 8th of a second. As I said, it may not be a 16th exactly. My point is that because Jedi are multiple times faster than peak humans then that's automatic proof that his reaction time is somewhere under .8

.7, .6, .5, doesn't matter.







He would have to cast it first, which he isn't fast enough to do, is the point. And even then all you're using pure speculation. I at least have canon numbers that can be quantifed in my argument... you don't.



As Jaxx said, simple game mechanics. If he ripped someone's spine out of their back or crushed their skull with a gesture it'd have to be rated A, and the game's demographic is teen and younger.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Because the average human's can move his hand at least six inches in an 8th of a second... and the force gives force users reflexes that are multiple times faster than even the fastest human.

Thus, he is faster than an 8th of a second. As I said, it may not be a 16th exactly. My point is that because Jedi are multiple times faster than peak humans then that's automatic proof that his reaction time is somewhere under .8

.7, .6, .5, doesn't matter.



You realise an eight is closer to 0.13? =P

Still, yeah. I agree with your post.

<.<

>.>

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
You realise an eight is closer to 0.13? =P

Still, yeah. I agree with your post. Beat me to it lol.

But that only makes it much faster.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Because the average human's can move his hand at least six inches in an 8th of a second... and the force gives force users reflexes that are multiple times faster than even the fastest human.

Thus, he is faster than an 8th of a second. As I said, it may not be a 16th exactly. My point is that because Jedi are multiple times faster than peak humans then that's automatic proof that his reaction time is somewhere under .8

.7, .6, .5, doesn't matter.

I thought the force only gave you powers to use the force, like force choke, push, etc., where does it say that it makes reaction time faster?

Originally posted by k1Lla441
I thought the force only gave you powers to use the force, like force choke, push, etc., where does it say that it makes reaction time faster? Several times and it is clearly shown, even in the movies.

Galen Marek showed superhumane feats of speed and agility in the games as well.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Several times and it is clearly shown, even in the movies.

Galen Marek showed superhumane feats of speed and agility in the games as well.
can he hit teleporting targets? and how fast do YOU think dante is when he activates quicksilver or when of his other time slowing/stopping abilities? because im pretty sure it gets pretty damn close or surpasses 1/8 of a second.

My argument has always been based on the notion that before Dante can do anything, he will be in Marek's TK grip and then crushed.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
My argument has always been based on the notion that before Dante can do anything, he will be in Marek's TK grip and then crushed.
Well, my arguement is that dantes natural speed plus one of his time slowing/stopping abilites surpasses that reaction speed of his tk grip. Dante has great reactions too, so to say that marek can easily get dante when dante comes near close to his reaction speed, or imo he beats it is just to quick to assume because quicksilver makes dante multiple times faster.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Well, my arguement is that dantes natural speed plus one of his time slowing/stopping abilites surpasses that reaction speed of his tk grip. Dante has great reactions too, so to say that marek can easily get dante when dante comes near close to his reaction speed, or imo he beats it is just to quick to assume because quicksilver makes dante multiple times faster.

You would have to prove how fast his "natural" speed is.

And Dante wouldn't be able to use any techniques, is our point. He'd be dead before then. Gumachi said that it'd take Dante a full second to use any speed techniques. Galen would kill him before that time.

Yea.

Not to mention Galen can grow facial hair, Dante can't.

Gumachi stop saying judgement cut, Dante does not canonically have Yamato anymore.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Force Crush is a Sith TK Force Power, and he has done it to entire AT-ST two-legged Walkers...Why can't he do it to a flesh and blood being?

I'll tell you why. The game is rated teen.

Hey look, I'm certainly not saying he can't do it, but from what I've been reading lately, if it's not seen, it can't be done according to too many peoples interpretation of the rules...

I just raised a point is all.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Gumachi stop saying judgement cut, Dante does not canonically have Yamato anymore.

All powers/abilities are allowed.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
You would have to prove how fast his "natural" speed is.

And Dante wouldn't be able to use any techniques, is our point. He'd be dead before then. Gumachi said that it'd take Dante a full second to use any speed techniques. Galen would kill him before that time.
Just because gumachi "stated" something doesnt make it true, dante can react way faster than a second, im thinkin somewhere around 1/3 or 1/4 (and this is being modest) of a second, but with his natural speed and plus quicksilver making him multple times faster im pretty sure that could be much faster than 1/8 of a second. And while dante is running around dodging his tk dante can use doppleganger to get galen busy, as he cant touch dopple ganger. And then the fight is pretty much over there.

Is Majin Form allowed?

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Well, my arguement is that dantes natural speed plus one of his time slowing/stopping abilites surpasses that reaction speed of his tk grip. Dante has great reactions too, so to say that marek can easily get dante when dante comes near close to his reaction speed, or imo he beats it is just to quick to assume because quicksilver makes dante multiple times faster. Not only that, but at the instant of QS activation Dante becomes momentarily invincible. Attacks on him whiff by going right through him.

Since when could...he...nevermind. Why doesn't he just use Chrono Heart? Every time he touches Galen, time slows. Or Keys of Cronos?

I guess he can use Majin Form?

Originally posted by Gumachi
Since when could...he...nevermind. Why doesn't he just use Chrono Heart? Every time he touches Galen, time slows. Or Keys of Cronos?

I guess he can use Majin Form?

No invincibility.

Thanks, for clearing that up m8.

In the book of the game, which is canon, Galen literally exploded a Bull Rancors brain.

That plus the aforementioned reaction time = Dead Dante.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
In the book of the game, which is canon, Galen literally exploded a Bull Rancors brain.

That plus the aforementioned reaction time = Dead Dante. I love you.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
In the book of the game, which is canon, Galen literally exploded a Bull Rancors brain.

That plus the aforementioned reaction time = Dead Dante.
What makes you blindy ignore the fact of what i just said. Dante plus quicksilver is pretty much enough speed to get away from galens tk grip, which all he needs is a split second and he can use dopple ganger, fromt there galen would be busy, much too busy to continue trying to use his tk grip, and remember doppleganger can only be damaged by real light, so galen would pretty much unable to do anything. Then all dante would have to do is shoot him from afar or speed blitz him.

And tge i would really appreciate it if you would argue directly to me; as little snickering comments here and there dont necassarily make you a friendly guy. I dont care if im wrong, but just want a little respect.

Can't he just shoot him oncekilling him? Or just use QS, and shoot him? Or QS then just Jackpot him?

Originally posted by k1Lla441
What makes you blindy ignore the fact of what i just said. Dante plus quicksilver is pretty much enough speed to get away from galens tk grip, which all he needs is a split second and he can use dopple ganger, fromt there galen would be busy, much too busy to continue trying to use his tk grip, and remember doppleganger can only be damaged by real light, so galen would pretty much unable to do anything. Then all dante would have to do is shoot him from afar or speed blitz him.

And tge i would really appreciate it if you would argue directly to me; as little snickering comments here and there dont necassarily make you a friendly guy. I dont care if im wrong, but just want a little respect. You can't get away from a TK grip, it binds you and surrounds you, Dante can't speed his way from TK, he's not the Flash. And that split second is more than enough time for Galen to grip and crush him. As far as shooting goes, lol, Galen blocks lasers with his saber. Oh and this reminds me, even average Jedi have precognition, Galen is well above the standards of the average Jedi, he can see Galen's attacks coming.

And what about me made you think I could give a shit whether or not people here think I am friendly, but I am curious to know when I made a snickering comment.

Galen is a douche.

Dante is the most overrated puddle of bile ever to be spawned in a shit videogame series.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Can't he just shoot him oncekilling him? Or just use QS, and shoot him? Or QS then just Jackpot him? Can't Galen just collapse Dante's skull on itself?

He can't stop doppleganger.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Dante is the most overrated puddle of bile ever to be spawned in a shit videogame series.

woot

Couldn't Dante protect himself with his Demonic Aura?

And aparently choking Dante wouldn't kill him.

Can he fly out of Galen's TK range?

Wait until someone replies...or at least ask those questions out there. Hmm I'd advice PMing a certain Dante fangirl, but I don't want her to get unwanted attention. Just check out Dante's respect thread for yourself.

Do people even read the opposing argument's posts?

The argument was never that he would choke Dante and deprive him of air, it is that he would collapse his skull in on itself.

Fly from Galen's TK range? He pulled a friggin Star Destroyer from lower orbit.

Protect himself with his demonic aura? Explain.

And please go PM Charlotte, at least then I would have someone who can think logically to debate against.

He shoots him with Ebony & Ivory at minigun speed, Hell he just QS him then blows his head off. Nevermind about Demonic Aura.

And he will do all this before Galen who also has superhumane reflexes makes a gesture?

Miniguns are not as fast as lasers.

Dante can pull out a laser. He still can't stop him QS or his doppleganger. Dante has superhuman reflexes also.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Wait until someone replies...or at least ask those questions out there. Hmm I'd advice PMing a certain Dante fangirl, but I don't want her to get unwanted attention. Just check out Dante's respect thread for yourself. Haha, those were my exact thoughts when this potentially good thread eneded up turning into a slanging match.

Because Quicksilver has to be activated from what I understand, making this a battle of Reaction. Whether Galen will use TK before Dante activates QS. Galen has superhuman reaction speed surpassing Dantes, so therefore he wins.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
You can't get away from a TK grip, it binds you and surrounds you, Dante can't speed his way from TK, he's not the Flash. And that split second is more than enough time for Galen to grip and crush him. As far as shooting goes, lol, Galen blocks lasers with his saber. Oh and this reminds me, even average Jedi have precognition, Galen is well above the standards of the average Jedi, he can see Galen's attacks coming.

And what about me made you think I could give a shit whether or not people here think I am friendly, but I am curious to know when I made a snickering comment.
Its not the tk im trying to get around, im trying to say that dante, with his natural speed and reaction (which is already extremly fast) w/quicksilver (which easily multiplies his speed) would beat out galens force choke, or any other of his force moves that take hand movement. So imo dante with all those things would beat out galens superhuman jedi hand movment, not buy much, but he would. Then while dante escaped it, all he has to do is use his doppleganger, which precognition wouldnt mean nothin cus he cant hit dopple ganger, doesnt matter if he knows its coming, theres nothing he can really do about it. And while galens busy avoiding dopple ganger, all dante has to do is 1)shoot him from afar with one of his long range weapons (and galen would be busy with dopple ganger, so simply "stopping the bullets" woudnt be so easy)
or 2) speed blitz him, and the fight is over.

It wasnt that big of a snickering comment, which is why i simply asked and didnt make a big deal. But what i was talking about is say stuff like "i love you" to someone who you agree with while avoiding what i said and acting as if where completely stupid and dont get what you say. I get what you say, trust me. Its just that i dont agree with you. If you disagree with me in something, please argue against me and dont imply other people are better than we are just because they agree with you.

And heres another comment, stuff like this is what i mean:
"And please go PM Charlotte, at least then I would have someone who can think logically to debate against"

Your right, maybe you dont care if anyone thinks your nice or not, but im assuming you would like respect from most of the people here, which your not gonna get if you keep treating people as lower than you are just becuase you think you think your completely right.

Like I said, all he had to do is use Bangle of Time, use honeycomb fire/Jackpot and Galen's is defeated. And if Galen can do it that fast I need proof, because it sounds like bullshit. And you also need proof he can't escape his TK by speed or teleporting.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Its not the tk im trying to get around, im trying to say that dante, with his natural speed and reaction (which is already extremly fast) w/quicksilver (which easily multiplies his speed) would beat out galens force choke, or any other of his force moves that take hand movement. So imo dante with all those things would beat out galens superhuman jedi hand movment, not buy much, but he would. Then while dante escaped it, all he has to do is use his doppleganger, which precognition wouldnt mean nothin cus he cant hit dopple ganger, doesnt matter if he knows its coming, theres nothing he can really do about it. And while galens busy avoiding dopple ganger, all dante has to do is 1)shoot him from afar with one of his long range weapons (and galen would be busy with dopple ganger, so simply "stopping the bullets" woudnt be so easy)
or 2) speed blitz him, and the fight is over.

It wasnt that big of a snickering comment, which is why i simply asked and didnt make a big deal. But what i was talking about is say stuff like "i love you" to someone who you agree with while avoiding what i said and acting as if where completely stupid and dont get what you say. I get what you say, trust me. Its just that i dont agree with you. If you disagree with me in something, please argue against me and dont imply other people are better than we are just because they agree with you.

And heres another comment, stuff like this is what i mean:
"And please go PM Charlotte, at least then I would have someone who can think logically to debate against"

Your right, maybe you dont care if anyone thinks your nice or not, but im assuming you would like respect from most of the people here, which your not gonna get if you keep treating people as lower than you are just becuase you think you think your completely right. 1. And he does all of this before Galen makes a single, quick gesture? Because once Galen makes said gesture, Dante won't be able to move. At all. And by moving his fingers after making said gesture, Dante's rib-cage will be crushed in, or his skull. Dante will do what, to escape that?

2. You are reading far too much into that comment, and the reason I did not reply was because he said what I was pretty much going to say.

3. That was meant to be an insult against Gumachi, not really against you.

4. I really could not give a damn how much people on the internet respect me or not with the exception of a select few. Though to be honest I was not intentionally insulting you, and if you think I was, I apologise.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Like I said, all he had to do is use Bangle of Time, use honeycomb fire/Jackpot and Galen's is defeated. And if Galen can do it that fast I need proof, because it sounds like bullshit. And you also need proof he can't escape his TK by speed or teleporting. And all Galen has to do is make a single gesture. Can do what that fast?

No, actually, you need proof Dante CAN do those things, we don't have to prove a negative.

I don't think crushing Dante's ripcage would kill him. Just like when Beowulf punched him in his ribcage.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
And all Galen has to do is make a single gesture. Can do what that fast?

No, actually, you need proof Dante CAN do those things, we don't have to prove a negative.


Can crush his skull/make his head explode THAT fast.

Well HoneyComb fire is in DMC4, which sets E&I to fire at minigun speeds, bangle of time is in DMC1, you already know about jackpot. Need more proof than that?

Originally posted by Gumachi
I don't think crushing Dante's ripcage would kill him. Just like when Beowulf punched him in his ribcage. I loled.

Originally posted by Gumachi

Can crush his skull/make his head explode THAT fast.
prove that dante can speedblitz a jedi
i doubt dante can do much before marek flicks his wrist..

I doubt Galen can do anything if he's frozen.

And by the time Galen is frozen, Dante will be immobilised, so he still will not be able to move.

And Quicksilver slows time, not freezes.

So Galen can still pop Dante's brain.

Bangle of Time, not QS. How can he be immobolized when he is frozen? Possibly cutting of his TK.[/COLOR

If time is frozen, so will Galen's TK grip. Hence, Dante will remain frozen.

"Dante can still freeze time, lock Starkiller's soul away, use Honeycomb fire to riddle his not-quite-quick-enough foe with demon slaying .45 cal holes. "

Originally posted by Gumachi
"Dante can still freeze time, lock Starkiller's soul away, use Honeycomb fire to riddle his not-quite-quick-enough foe with demon slaying .45 cal holes. "

HC hasn't been used canonically to my knoweldge.

Originally posted by Gumachi
"Dante can still freeze time, lock Starkiller's soul away, use Honeycomb fire to riddle his not-quite-quick-enough foe with demon slaying .45 cal holes. "
something tells me you didnt read the post above this properly...if dante freezes time, marek's tk grip on him will also be frozen, meaning that until the time stop wears out, dante cant do jack

Originally posted by Gumachi
All powers/abilities are allowed.

yes of Dante, and Dante doesnt have Yamato so...you didnt back up anything there

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Dante is the second most overrated puddle of bile ever to be spawned in a shit videogame series after Sephiroth.

Actually, Dante has Yamato in DMC1, although I think it is an easter egg weapon rather than something he gets officially.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
1. And he does all of this before Galen makes a single, quick gesture? Because once Galen makes said gesture, Dante won't be able to move. At all. And by moving his fingers after making said gesture, Dante's rib-cage will be crushed in, or his skull. Dante will do what, to escape that?

2. You are reading far too much into that comment, and the reason I did not reply was because he said what I was pretty much going to say.

3. That was meant to be an insult against Gumachi, not really against you.

4. I really could not give a damn how much people on the internet respect me or not with the exception of a select few. Though to be honest I was not intentionally insulting you, and if you think I was, I apologise.

1. Its not like he needs to do all of that before he makes that gesture, all dante really needs to do is quicksilver/dodge, then while hes running away/dodging galens force he would then immediately activate doppleganger which would keep galen more than busy enough for dante to speed blitz and kill him. What it comes down to is this: is dante fast enough with quick silver to dodge galens hand movement and activate dopple ganger while hes running away, or is galens hand gesture to quick for dante and he gets crushed. I happen to choose the former.

For the rest: sorry for the misinterpretation and its ok.

Galen rapes, this is not even funny, reminds me of that "Dante VS. Jedah" argument.

You can't dodge a force grip, it's like trying to dodge the air or atoms: plain feckin' stupid

BTW, does your vaunted quicksilver need to be activated to take effect, cuz if it does then Galen should be able to use the force before he does and end this fight/thread.

Originally posted by k1Lla441
1. Its not like he needs to do all of that before he makes that gesture, all dante really needs to do is quicksilver/dodge, then while hes running away/dodging galens force he would then immediately activate doppleganger which would keep galen more than busy enough for dante to speed blitz and kill him. What it comes down to is this: is dante fast enough with quick silver to dodge galens hand movement and activate dopple ganger while hes running away, or is galens hand gesture to quick for dante and he gets crushed. I happen to choose the former.

For the rest: sorry for the misinterpretation and its ok. ...Dodge a Force Grip?

Even in the EU such a thing has never happened, you can't just dodge a Force Grip, Dante is not Flash.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
...Dodge a Force Grip?

Even in the EU such a thing has never happened, you can't just dodge a Force Grip, Dante is not Flash.
well you guys have been saying this whole time that a jedis hand movements are beyond normal and can make hand gestures at around 1/16 a second, and for dante w/quicksilver that doesnt seem too impoosible a feat to beat. And its not the actual "force" dante would be dodging, it would be galens hand movment he would be avoiding, so please everyone dont get the two mixed up.

Originally posted by MadMel
something tells me you didnt read the post above this properly...if dante freezes time, marek's tk grip on him will also be frozen, meaning that until the time stop wears out, dante cant do jack

I don't care.

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes of Dante, and Dante doesnt have Yamato so...you didnt back up anything there

But he had Yamato, if it was DMC4 Dante, would Yamato be allowed?

dante would win, he is really durible, he is increadibly fast, increadibly strong, and has increadibly strong demonic powers, even if he got caught by force grip it would take a lot to kill him

Originally posted by niduin
dante would win, he is really durible, he is increadibly fast, increadibly strong, and has increadibly strong demonic powers, even if he got caught by force grip it would take a lot to kill him
If dante did get caught by his force grip im sure it wouldnt be that hard to kill him... but he wouldnt get him. His incredibly fast reflexes, speed, and time control lock in this fight.