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Let's see how Mr. Riggs measures up against several of Die Hard's finest villains.

*Firearms optional

1. Hans Gruber (Die Hard)*
2. Major Grant (Die Hard 2)
3. Colonel Stuart (Die Hard 2)
4. Simon Gruber (Die Hard With a Vengeance), inside his chopper*
5. Mai (Live Free or Die Hard)
6. Thomas Gabriel (Live Free or Die Hard)* although Riggs may want to beat the shit out of him with his bare hands.

Riggs pwns them all, more efficiently than McClaine did.

Riggs clears it IMO. Some of the villains were good at scheming and more plot-based tactics and not actual fighters (e.g Hans).

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmhm.

Left Targo (Dh 3) out.

If its Riggs at his current age (Or the age he would have been in 2006) especially when fighting Mai, Riggs is dead. (Assuming he survived Stuart)

Hes way too old for that shit.

With firearms though, hed probably just shoot 'em.
A lot of shit gets talked about how much Riggs is a hand to hand killer, but even though he has less kills than McClane, his percentage of "killed by shooting" kills is higher.

Why do you always do that? Why do you always say Riggs in LW4? You know, we are counting ALL of the movie Riggs, not just 4.

does he get an SUV?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why do you always do that? Why do you always say Riggs in LW4? You know, we are counting ALL of the movie Riggs, not just 4.


You just answered your own question:

"You know, we are counting ALL of the movies".

Right now if 2008 McClane met 2008 Riggs, McClane'd kill him. Outright.

Originally posted by Sado22
does he get an SUV?

Look. If he really wanted to be cheap, he probably coulda just shot her or something.

Either his wanting arrest/interrogate her up until she kicked her out the window, or being old fashioned was responsible for him not trying to take her out 'til then.

Then when he lost his temper he perfectly combined the desire to get up there quickly before Computer geek was killed or forced to complete his task with desire to get up there quick to kick her arse.

The SUV was the quick way of doing it.








Riggs with the shipping container was a bigger punk out..

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You just answered your own question:

"You know, we are counting ALL of the movies".

Right now if 2008 McClane met 2008 Riggs, McClane'd kill him. Outright. Right You have a habit of focusing on LW4 Riggs and ignoring the rest.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Look. If he really wanted to be cheap, he probably coulda just shot her or something.

Either his wanting arrest/interrogate her up until she kicked her out the window, or being old fashioned was responsible for him not trying to take her out 'til then.

Then when he lost his temper he perfectly combined the desire to get up there quickly before Computer geek was killed or forced to complete his task with desire to get up there quick to kick her arse.

The SUV was the quick way of doing it.








Riggs with the shipping container was a bigger punk out.. Shoulda woulda coulda.....he got beat by a girl h2h, that's all there is to it.

Nope shes dead he lives. Mcclane wins. Yay.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Right You have a habit of focusing on LW4 Riggs and ignoring the rest.

Dude if you were fighting tommorrow, and I was asked to make an assessment of your recent form, it would not be based on what you did when you were seventeen.

It'd be 'how did you get on last week.'

By your logic, Mike Tyson has never been and will never be defeated because of what he did to Larry Holmes back in the day, totally ignoring the spankings that Douglas, Lewis, Williams gave to him since.

And how can you moan about the mentioning of McClane's kill count from all the movies one minute, yet when you want to cite whatever Riggs does in all other movies, its somehow magically alright...?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Nope shes dead he lives. Mcclane wins. Yay. McClaine got pwned h2h and had to use a truck to beat a GIRL. wheee!!!

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dude if you were fighting tommorrow, and I was asked to make an assessment of your recent form, it would not be based on what you did when you were seventeen.

It'd be 'how did you get on last week.'

By your logic, Mike Tyson has never been and will never be defeated because of what he did to Larry Holmes back in the day, totally ignoring the spankings that Douglas, Lewis, Williams gave to him since.

And how can you moan about the mentioning of McClane's kill count from all the movies one minute, yet when you want to cite whatever Riggs does in all other movies, its somehow magically alright...? Wait, since when are they fighting tomorrow? It's ALL the Riggs and McClaine's, from all four movies.

Then 4 different Riggs fights, times 4 different McClane fights....

Lotta threads.

Indeed, pay attention, Mr. Madison.

O'Doyle rules!!!!

This'd be more like it.

Originally posted by Snafu the Great
Let's see how Mr. Riggs measures up against several of Die Hard's finest villains.

*Firearms optional

1. Hans Gruber and his buddy with only two rounds. (Die Hard)*
2. Karl
3. Major Grant and Colonel Stuart (Diehard 2)
4. And their platoons * (Die hard2)
5. Simon Gruber (Die Hard With a Vengeance), inside his chopper with only two rounds from a snub nose service revolver (whilst not being able to see his target properly.)*

6. Mai (Live Free or Die Hard)
7. Thomas Gabriel when he has Rianne hostage at point blank (Live Free or Die Hard)* although Riggs may want to beat the shit out of him with his bare hands.

OK.........

Certainly as OK and more fair than 'not letting McClane having an option to shoot Jet Li'.

OK whatever, dude.

Riggs clears it on count of being better at everything McClane does aside from getting pwned by little girls.

haermm

Originally posted by Sado22
Mcclane clears it on count of being better at everything Riggs does aside from getting pwned by little guys with metal rammed through their guts.

in 4 movies the closest McClane came to getting pvssy was holding Hans' hand when he was about to fall off the tower

haermm

He never held hands with Hans... He just undid the rolex.

And it looked like a Holly shag was imminant when the credits were rolling.

Plenty of shagging going on up until Die Hard 3 at least.

Hell McClane, being better than Riggs, managed to keep his woman alive for all four movies.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He never held hands with Hans... He just undid the rolex.

And it looked like a Holly shag was imminant when the credits were rolling.

Plenty of shagging going on up until Die Hard 3 at least.

Hell McClane, being better than Riggs, managed to keep his woman alive for all four movies.

McClaine: One Ho, average looking, divorced

Riggs: Ho's in different area codes

Yes. Dead hoes.
Because Riggs, in the words of that guy in Bruce Willis' 'The last boy scout', "couldn't protect a warm cup of piss".

Awwwwwwwww poor Riggs.

Wouldnt the nasty gang leave his women alonnnnnnne...?

The reason Holly and him were shagging all those years was that John McClane wouldnt put up with anyone putting moves on his missus, and killed everyone who ever threatened her.

Yeah, and Willis's wife in that movie was a cheating ass ****.

LOL True.

Different character though, there.

He was pretty badass though.

That nose uppercut was typically, brutal and brief.

yeah mcclane kept one ugly ass mangina for 2 movies.....and even lost that

Yeah Ellis ia tappin dat shit now.

Originally posted by Sado22
yeah mcclane kept one ugly ass mangina for 2 movies.....and even lost that

Ahhhhh but he still rules over Riggs "All my women die".

Riggs is a fail cop:
"Serve and protect...?"

"Served everytime he tries to protect" is more like it.

That was so lame I actually LOL'd haermm

Now now. What your missus says to you after youve given her your bestest sweetest lovin', has no place here....!

Even lamer crylaugh

And theres definitely no need to bring up what she said when you tried to make up for it.

Keep it to yourself....have some self respect, man.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it gets personal.

Why... are we not just dicking around on the internetz....?

And you are the master of making things personal, so 'people in glass houses' and all that....

So calm yourself Elizabeth. You know the stress is no good for the bairn!!!

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Why... are we not just dicking around on the internetz....?

And you are the master of making things personal, so 'people in glass houses' and all that.... OK I was kidding dude, relax

The master? You might wanna pm me on that, so let's not discuss that here.