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No energy attacks of any kind.

Which duo wins?

Team Two.

Hmmm, DS has slapped around PC level super hero's and Kalibak can compete agaisnt sups...I dunno probably a 6/5 for team 1 now.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hmmm, DS has slapped around PC level super hero's
Implicit assumption by that Statement: DS wasn't affected by the Crisis. Therefore DS is still at PC levels of power.



Basic Observation: PC DS physically dominated PC Superman. DS physically stalemates or loses to Current Superman.

Logical Deduction: DS is weaker than his previous PC incarnation.

Galen's Deduction: PC DS = DS, despite the boundful evidence to suggest him being physically weaker.





Nice going, Galen.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Implicit assumption by that Statement: DS wasn't affected by the Crisis. Therefore DS is still at PC levels of power.



Basic Observation: PC DS physically dominated PC Superman. DS physically stalemates or loses to Current Superman.

Logical Deduction: DS is weaker than his previous PC incarnation.

Galen's Deduction: PC DS = DS, despite the boundful evidence to suggest him being physically weaker.





Nice going, Galen.

Yeah, kind of how current Thor is a completly donky ass compared to his classic self yet he's suppsoed to be more powerful. Anyhow PC DS is still PC DS, sure they weren't affected but its just a nice reference I like to use

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yeah, kind of how current Thor is a completly donky ass compared to his classic self yet he's suppsoed to be more powerful. Anyhow PC DS is still PC DS, sure they weren't affected but its just a nice reference I like to use

I accept your completely irrelevant but expected backhanded concession.

Bigggggg problem with your arguement. PC feats are still canon for Darkseid since it was explicitly said that New Gods were not affected by COIE.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Bigggggg problem with your arguement. PC feats are still canon for Darkseid since it was explicitly said that New Gods were not affected by COIE. Trick, you never replied to me in the Black Bolt vs. Orion thread.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Bigggggg problem with your arguement. PC feats are still canon for Darkseid since it was explicitly said that New Gods were not affected by COIE.

Technically, sure. But would you envision current Darkseid physically beating down PC Superman?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Bigggggg problem with your arguement. PC feats are still canon for Darkseid since it was explicitly said that New Gods were not affected by COIE. That doesn't really change the fact that he has not shown near the PC power he had.

Kalibak is the weak link. He could be portrayed better but he isn't so team 2 wins.

team 2 FTW

Team 2 runs away with this.

team 2

team 2

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Yeah, kind of how current Thor is a completly donky ass compared to his classic self yet he's suppsoed to be more powerful.

Yup and im sure uve read a huge amount of both current and classic thor in order to cocme to this conclusion.

This is a joke really. Kalibak would get wrecked leaving DS all alone.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is a joke really. Kalibak would get wrecked leaving DS all alone.

DS >= Thanos

Kalibak < Hulk IMHO

=

Thanos + Hulk vs DS

Hulk wouldn't be more then an minior distraction for DS but this could be just enough .

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
DS >= Thanos

Purely physically? No chance in hell.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Purely physically? No chance in hell.

Why do you think that? I never saw Thanos doing somthing physically impressive what DS couldn't do .

Originally posted by Enyalus
Purely physically? No chance in hell.

in your dream.

Beat SS to death in a couple punches.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Why do you think that? I never saw Thanos doing somthing physically impressive what DS couldn't do .

You mean getting physically molested by Superman so much so that both of his eyes swelled shut from the bruising?

Please. Strength and durability wise Thanos would murder DS.

Originally posted by Mindset
Beat SS to death in a couple punches.

good for him.

Originally posted by skygunner41
good for him. I was answering his question

if anything to make this fairer DS needs a better partner than Kalibak.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You mean getting physically molested by Superman so much so that both of his eyes swelled shut from the bruising?

Please. Strength and durability wise Thanos would murder DS.

To be honest, I don't see Thanos doing much better against Superman in a physical duel.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be honest, I don't see Thanos doing much better against Superman in a physical duel.

Yeah, you and Avlon and Galen.

I don't mind.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be honest, I don't see Thanos doing much better against Superman in a physical duel.

eek

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be honest, I don't see Thanos doing much better against Superman in a physical duel.

thanos would murdered supes in a physical match..

Originally posted by Mindset
I was answering his question

I know

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yeah, you and Avlon and Galen.

I don't mind.

3 VS 1.good luck with that.

Originally posted by skygunner41
3 VS 1.good luck with that. 1+.5-1

Originally posted by Mindset
1+.5-1

= hopeless?

Thanos 2v1d Hulk and Thor.

Team 2

Just out of curiosity, can someone show me Thanos using his fists only?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Just out of curiosity, can someone show me Thanos using his fists only? What?Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be honest, I don't see Thanos doing much better against Superman in a physical duel. How can't you? Thanos mops the floor with characters more durable than Superman.

team 2 stomp,kalibak wont last long

Originally posted by skyfather
team 2 stomp,kalibak wont last long Thanos solos.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What? How can't you? Thanos mops the floor with characters more durable than Superman.

I'm just asking for scans which show thanos fistfight skills ^^

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos solos.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I'm just asking for scans which show thanos fistfight skills ^^ Read him beating the Surfer into submission.Originally posted by xJLxKing
I stand by that wholeheartedly.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I'm just asking for scans which show thanos fistfight skills ^^

Meh, I can dig up scans if you really need them. Off the top of my head, though, he KO'd and nearly killed Silver Surfer with six punches. He had the better of WM Thor w/ PG in their fight, using physical attacks. And prior to both those incidents, he fought one of his own dopplegangers created by the Magus in a fist fight. That clone was created by Magus from five Cosmic Cubes and then powered by the Infinity Gauntlet...and stated on panel to be superior in power to the real Thanos.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh, I can dig up scans if you really need them. Off the top of my head, though, he KO'd and nearly killed Silver Surfer with six punches. He had the better of WM Thor w/ PG in their fight, using physical attacks. And prior to both those incidents, he fought one of his own dopplegangers created by the Magus in a fist fight. That clone was created by Magus from five Cosmic Cubes and then powered by the Infinity Gauntlet...and stated on panel to be superior in power to the real Thanos.

Sry but most fistfights I remember his fists were glowing with energy, IIRC in the SS fight as well. But in this fight you are not allowed to use any form of energy, not even to amp your punches.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Sry but most fistfights I remember his fists were glowing with energy, IIRC in the SS fight as well. But in this fight you are not allowed to use any form of energy, not even to amp your punches.

This is his fight with WM Thor w/ PG (who is at least 10 times stronger than a standard Thor):

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor1.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor2.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor3.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor4.jpg
5. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor5.jpg
6. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor6.jpg
7. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor7.jpg
8. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor8.jpg
9. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor9.jpg
10. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor10.jpg
11. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor11.jpg

Current DS suckz at h2h, he couldn't outreact Batman shooting a gun. I don't see how he expects to beat Hulk.

Team 2

Originally posted by Enyalus
This is his fight with WM Thor w/ PG (who is at least 10 times stronger than a standard Thor):

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor11.jpg

This is good. Though he used Energy attacks and couldn't best Thor in H2H (no Surprise with the power gem), he defeated him with a "gun". But he fought like a man.

So my conclusion (brawl)

Thanos = DS

Hulk > Kalibak

Team 2 still wins

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
This is good. Though he used Energy attacks and couldn't best Thor in H2H (no Surprise with the power gem), he defeated him with a "gun". But he fought like a man.

While he couldn't put him down, if you look at the fight carefully and count the amount of times Thanos hits him compared to Thor hits Thanos, and how many times each one ends up on their ass...Thanos had the advantage. He just wasn't able to put him down, like you said.


I agree with your ending conclusion.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
This is good. Though he used Energy attacks and couldn't best Thor in H2H (no Surprise with the power gem), he defeated him with a "gun". But he fought like a man.

So my conclusion (brawl)

Thanos = DS

Hulk > Kalibak

Team 2 still wins

How is Ds equal to Thanos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is Ds equal to Thanos?

How Thanos = Darksied ?

Originally posted by skygunner41
How Thanos = Darksied ? He isn't he is far above him. Ds is less formidable than Superman. Thanos is well above them these top tiers.

i say thanos because he is eternal so if hes hurt(which i doubt will happen) he`ll just get up again and start destroying things

Originally posted by Enyalus
This is his fight with WM Thor w/ PG (who is at least 10 times stronger than a standard Thor):

1. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor1.jpg
2. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor2.jpg
3. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor3.jpg
4. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor4.jpg
5. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor5.jpg
6. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor6.jpg
7. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor7.jpg
8. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor8.jpg
9. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor9.jpg
10. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor10.jpg
11. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/Thanos_WMThor11.jpg
Thor at ten times the strength of normal thor would have killed everyone on the infinity watch with one punch. That didn't happen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He isn't he is far above him. Ds is less formidable than Superman. Thanos is well above them these top tiers.

....

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor at ten times the strength of normal thor would have killed everyone on the infinity watch with one punch. That didn't happen.

What just happen 10X= useless?or that remark is not true.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor at ten times the strength of normal thor would have killed everyone on the infinity watch with one punch. That didn't happen.

Killed Surfer? No way...

But really, WM Thor is 10x stronger than base Thor. That's fact. And amped with the Power Gem he's even stronger. Also, to provide an example of Thor's strength - without the power gem, but in WM, he one-shots Drax w/ PG once, and two-shots Drax w/ PG again. He also one-shot Maxam.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Killed Surfer? No way...

But really, WM Thor is 10x stronger than base Thor. That's fact. And amped with the Power Gem he's even stronger. Also, to provide an example of Thor's strength - without the power gem, but in WM, he one-shots Drax w/ PG once, and two-shots Drax w/ PG again. He also one-shot Maxam.

How strong Drax W/PG and Maxam at that time?

Originally posted by skygunner41
How strong Drax W/PG and Maxam at that time?

Drax one-shotted Champion w/ Quantum Bands. And Maxam was roughly equal to Drax in strength.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is Ds equal to Thanos?

Only in H2H because both got good showings in pure brawls.

Power and Int DS > Thanos

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Only in H2H because both got good showings in pure brawls.

Power and Int DS > Thanos

In a physical brawl Thanos dominates DS

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Only in H2H because both got good showings in pure brawls.

Power and Int DS > Thanos No, in anything Thanos is well above Ds. In a brawl Ds is lower than superman. Powerwise he is a top tier imo and intelligence wise he is well behind Thanos as well imo.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Thor at ten times the strength of normal thor would have killed everyone on the infinity watch with one punch. That didn't happen. That is pure speculation.Originally posted by skygunner41
.... It's true. Dc history more than backs that up.