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By now, even for those 'unawake', it should be obvious that there are only 2 possible scenarios regarding this crisis.

1) The private bankers are deliberately crashing the $$, and all us nutjobs were right, or

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53339&page=2
2) Washington is filled with the dumbest, most idiotic harvard and yale grads to have ever existed... & that doesn't even make sense.

It should be obvious that there is a conspiracy, yet again.

alls we can do now is sit back & wait for the final solution.

Originally posted by Deano
taken from the davi dicke forum





By now, even for those 'unawake', it should be obvious that there are only 2 possible scenarios regarding this crisis.

1) The private bankers are deliberately crashing the $$, and all us nutjobs were right, or

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53339&page=2
2) Washington is filled with the dumbest, most idiotic harvard and yale grads to have ever existed... & that doesn't even make sense.

It should be obvious that there is a conspiracy, yet again.

alls we can do now is sit back & wait for the final solution.

Why does it always have to be one extreme or another?

I believe there are some people in the banking sector who, for their own greed, pushed certain investments too far and took too many risks and caused massive problem. I also know for a fact that there are many genuinely cautious people who invest massive sums of money for relatively small but almost certain returns....get their relatively small bonuses based on it and had nothing to do with causing the crash.

it certainly seems that it is more than that jaden

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=476227&highlight=money+forumid%3A70+userid%3A29081

MUST WATCH
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936

tHE MONEY MASTERS is a 3 1/2 hour non-fiction, historical documentary that traces the origins of the political power structure that rules our nation and the world today. The modern political power structure has its roots in the hidden manipulation and accumulation of gold and other forms of money. The development of fractional reserve banking practices in the 17th century brought to a cunning sophistication the secret techniques initially used by goldsmiths fraudulently to accumulate wealth. With the formation of the privately-owned Bank of England in 1694, the yoke of economic slavery to a privately-owned "central" bank was first forced upon the backs of an entire nation, not removed but only made heavier with the passing of the three centuries to our day. Nation after nation, including America, has fallen prey to this cabal of international central bankers.

Who the banks are owned by is irrelevant...they're not the people actually doing the deals which caused the problems. If you actually bothered to do a little bit of actual research you'd know why these economic problems exist. But instead you'd rather take the easy option and pander to some sad conspiracy notion because it takes less effort than to learn a little about the economic procedures behind the problems. Ironically most conspiracy theorists spout the term "know thy enemy" and harp on about how knowledge is the main tool against the alleged conspirators...then they don't actually bother learning any of the facts...

best examples being that they say scientific evidence exists that the twin towers were demolished...they don't base this on their own knowledge of science though...they base on on someone telling them...same applies to the economic crisis...they don't base it on learning about the mechanisms behind the problems...they just base it on someone telling them it's the evil elite at work...who themselves didn't bother to learn about the economic mechanisms...and round and round you all go on the big carousel of ignorance.

i wish you were right jaden

Jaden IS right. People don't understand the economic situation, so they take one of three options- they don't give a damn, they try to understand it, or they make up reasons why it is how it is.

or they jus know better...and watch...time will tell...and it wont be long...may not be the end etc...but its not going to get better any time soon for anyone in the world...we all tie in together when one major country suffers so does the other major countries etc...domino ..oh and jaden... bro.. who owns the banks is relevant ...who owns the oil... pharmaceutical etc?...who asked for millions back in the early 70s to create an airborne cancer..who is eli lilly?...not hard to figure out

Originally posted by Deano
i wish you were right jaden

I wish so as well but thats all wrong.thanks for the info Deano.good infomation there.That money masters video proves it all.Like you said the private bankers are deliberately crashing the $ and it affects all of us.That congressmen Louis Mcfadden who was mentioned in that link you provided was one smart cookie.

Originally posted by jaden101
Who the banks are owned by is irrelevant...they're not the people actually doing the deals which caused the problems. If you actually bothered to do a little bit of actual research you'd know why these economic problems exist. But instead you'd rather take the easy option and pander to some sad conspiracy notion because it takes less effort than to learn a little about the economic procedures behind the problems. Ironically most conspiracy theorists spout the term "know thy enemy" and harp on about how knowledge is the main tool against the alleged conspirators...then they don't actually bother learning any of the facts...

best examples being that they say scientific evidence exists that the twin towers were demolished...they don't base this on their own knowledge of science though...they base on on someone telling them...same applies to the economic crisis...they don't base it on learning about the mechanisms behind the problems...they just base it on someone telling them it's the evil elite at work...who themselves didn't bother to learn about the economic mechanisms...and round and round you all go on the big carousel of ignorance.

Who the banks are owned by is ****ING relevant. The private FED is printing funny money and hands this funny money out to commercial banks who use to create a whole lot of more funny money. Since banks use the fractional reserve scheme, it means for every dollar they receive from the FED they get to create 9 new ones. So 1 million dollar handed out by the privately owned FED means another 10 million dollar in total being created of new funny money.

Your ignorance is evident from your very very ignorant post. If the PRIVATELY OWNED FED was to be abolished we wouldnt have these problems we are facing today. If the USA governement were to issue its own money instead of letting some PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION do it, we wouldnt be in this mess.

You see there exists NO MONEY in our system today, ALL of it is DEBT owned to PRIVATE BANKERS. Every single penny mate!

This PRIVATELY OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) is the ONE to blame and if this PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION stays in power the USA will go bankrupt.

The forefathers of the USA warned the people on more than one ocassion! See quotes below

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs."--Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President.

"A great industrial nation is controlled by it's system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world--no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." --President Woodrow Wilson

"If Congress has the right to issue paper money , it was given to them to be used by... and not to be delegated to individuals or corporations" -- President
Andrew Jackson, Vetoed Bank Bill of 1836

When you have finished reading the 3 quotes above by 3 different presidents of the USA, you know we can speak of a conspiracy.

exactly.

Originally posted by Katsu
Who the banks are owned by is ****ING relevant. The private FED is printing funny money and hands this funny money out to commercial banks who use to create a whole lot of more funny money. Since banks use the fractional reserve scheme, it means for every dollar they receive from the FED they get to create 9 new ones. So 1 million dollar handed out by the privately owned FED means another 10 million dollar in total being created of new funny money.

Your ignorance is evident from your very very ignorant post. If the PRIVATELY OWNED FED was to be abolished we wouldnt have these problems we are facing today. If the USA governement were to issue its own money instead of letting some PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION do it, we wouldnt be in this mess.

You see there exists NO MONEY in our system today, ALL of it is DEBT owned to PRIVATE BANKERS. Every single penny mate!

This PRIVATELY OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE (which is neither federal nor has any reserves) is the ONE to blame and if this PRIVATELY OWNED CORPORATION stays in power the USA will go bankrupt.

The only reason fractional reserve banking comes into play is because banks started lending increases percentages of their deposits to ever increasingly risky borrowers.

Strangely though, many of the banks current so called "toxic assets" are mortgages to people who are having no trouble in paying them back.

They then stupidly borrowed on the strength of the money owed to them an lended again using that thus perpetuating the problem further.

and for more understading read this:

taken from the zeitgesit movie: