Few thoughts about Karness Muur and Cade's Healing Technique

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.



Darth Sexy
I was just thinking about this while reading the last Legacy comic. I wanted to get everyone's input on Karness Muur.
Based on what we've seen and what he has said, he seems to be a very powerful sith lord. Apparently a LOT more powerful than Krayt or any of the Jedi of that time. He claims to have easily slain sith more powerful than Krayt. Whether it's true or not remains to be seen but he was using force lightning to such a degree that he was lifting Krayt, another sith, both Imperial Knights, and Azalyn Rae, off the ground. Obviously gauging his power relative to other sith or Jedi of the SW mythos is hard, but I don't think it's a stretch to say that he was very powerful and more powerful than anyone in the One Sith.

When it comes to Cade's healing technique, it seems to be an inverse version of the shatterpoint. He can see the cracks and he can either destroy the item/being in question, or he can rebuild. It may not be the shatterpoint but it appears to be closely related to it. Also, there seems to be absolutely no defense for this technique. He obliterated Muur and his talisman easily and almost instantly. I don't want to claim Cade's raw powers make him a force titan, but I would think he is at least a top tier force user, for any period. And how much more powerful would he be had he continued training for those 7 years as a jedi/sith?

SIDIOUS 66
Is Wyyrlok the new leader of the sith?

Lord Lucien
Presumably. He did kill the leader and rescued the rest.

Captain REX
And was also Darth Krayt's closest associate in the One Sith, as were Wyyrlok's parents and grandparents.

Major Valerian
Honestly, that caught me off-guard. I never thought Wyyrlok'd be the one who finally killed Krayt.

Darth Sexy
Wyyrlok seems more powerful than Krayt.

Publius II
A lot of people seem more powerful than Krayt.

Whatever, I'm glad he's dead.

Darth Sexy
You have to ask yourself though. Having his kind of sith order is pretty much guaranteed to fail, so why waste 100 years building it up and expecting it to succeed and why dedicate a comic to it? I've seen the next 4 front pages of the the legacy issues so it should be interesting. They're going in a different direction apparently.

Allankles
Originally posted by Publius II
A lot of people seem more powerful than Krayt.

Whatever, I'm glad he's dead.

I thought he was an interesting character. Certainly had more motivation for being an evil bastard than 90% of the Sith in SW.

Allankles
Originally posted by Major Valerian
Honestly, that caught me off-guard. I never thought Wyyrlok'd be the one who finally killed Krayt.

Me neither. I never expected Wyyrlok would be one to kill Krayt. However, I expected if anyone would continue Krayt's legacy it would probably be Wyyrlok.

Lightsnake
We never saw Krayt at his fullest...he's been declining into madness and ill health for a while.

Captain REX
I don't think we ever really will get to see Krayt in his prime. All he was doing was training his Sith in secret on Korriban for about a hundred years... I'm sure he was powerful but we never really got to see it. Karness dominated him after Azlyn caught him offguard, and Wyyrlok struck him down while he was horribly wounded.

Darth Sexy
Well as I've said, it appears Karness Muur was beyond Krayt and anyone in the "One Sith". I wonder how powerful Ajunta Pall must have been since he was the leader of the Dark Jedi Exiles.

Publius II
What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

SIDIOUS 66
Originally posted by Publius II
What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

Possess others, use pretty powerful force lightning, and turn people to mutants (whatever they are called).

Darth Sexy
Originally posted by Publius II
What did Muur do that makes him so powerful?

He's taking force lightning from Krayt and another sith. Then he's dishing it out in Celeste Morne while levitating Krayt and the other sith as well as Azalyn Rae, Shado, and the imperial knights. His power seems to be immense. He also tells Krayt that he's easily slain sith more powerful than Krayt.

Lord Lucien
Originally posted by Captain REX
I don't think we ever really will get to see Krayt in his prime. All he was doing was training his Sith in secret on Korriban for about a hundred years... I'm sure he was powerful but we never really got to see it. Karness dominated him after Azlyn caught him offguard, and Wyyrlok struck him down while he was horribly wounded. I'm sure some comic or novel or some such will come out set between 40 and 130 ABY.

Young_Angel
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Possess others, use pretty powerful force lightning, and turn people to mutants (whatever they are called).

Rakghouls. And yes, that's pretty much how Karness became powerful than some of the other Sith. Using that little talisman of his was something. But I'm glad Cade destroyed it.

Speaking of which, I understood what his dad, Kol, had said when he stated, "That which can heal can also break." Guess Cade's healing power can also break the cracks too. Go Skywalkers! smile

But yeah, since Karness is long and gone, and Krayt dead... will Wyyrlok rule the "One Sith"? Maybe. I have a hunch something may happen...

kotorfan
I thought he used shatterpoint to break it, not the force lightning revive thing.

Young_Angel
Originally posted by kotorfan
I thought he used shatterpoint to break it, not the force lightning revive thing.

Hmm... you know what? He did. Found it right here:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Shatterpoint

Captain REX
Therefore making Cade's healing ability an extension of shatterpoint... that actually kinda makes sense.

Darth Sexy
Well yea dude I call it an "inverse" shatterpoint, or some enhanced version of the original basic shatterpoint.

Captain REX
Unshatterpoint? stick out tongue

Young_Angel
Nice. big grin

Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links.