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Darkseid wants to take over Marvel Earth. He has found a way to transport Apokolips to a corner of the Marvel Universe. In a week's time, Apokolips will arrive upon Earth. Can Apokolips conquer Marvel Earth given that one week prep period?

Probably not.

Given the Chaos that marvel earth is in right now i say yes.

After about a week of beingtaken over Captain America comes back gets the troops organised then kicks some butt.

Nope

Thor godblasts Apokolips back to DC where it belongs.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thor godblasts Apokolips back to DC where it belongs.

SCAN?

Originally posted by skygunner41
SCAN?

You want a scan of a fictional crossover event that hasn't and won't happen?


I'll ask my cousin to draw you something.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You want a scan of a fictional crossover event that hasn't and won't happen?


I'll ask my cousin to draw you something.

I'll be waiting.Please draw with color.

Originally posted by skygunner41
SCAN?

beta ray bill blow up a planet before, Odinforce Thor should not have a problem with that.

This particular planet has defenses, no single hero is going to blow it up.

The question is not whether they can repel Darkseid, it's whether earth survives intact. We are talking about a literal scorched earth strategy, especially if Darkseid starts making firepits.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This particular planet has defenses, no single hero is going to blow it up.

The question is not whether they can repel Darkseid, it's whether earth survives intact. We are talking about a literal scorched earth strategy, especially if Darkseid starts making firepits.

Erads, Supergirl, Superboy, and Krypto were able to beat Apokolips' army. The entire Marvel Earth would do far worse. And the OP states he wants to take over Earth, not destroy it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
This particular planet has defenses, no single hero is going to blow it up.

The question is not whether they can repel Darkseid, it's whether earth survives intact. We are talking about a literal scorched earth strategy, especially if Darkseid starts making firepits.

No perp marvel would fall imo since all the heros/villians are all over the place.

But what kind of defence does the plent have that stop a godblast or the odin-power???

Granted with prep Darkseid would know this and try to take Thor out before this would happen.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Erads, Supergirl, Superboy, and Krypto were able to beat Apokolips' army. The entire Marvel Earth would do far worse. And the OP states he wants to take over Earth, not destroy it.

The firepits are not going to destroy the earth, just ruin it for human civilization.

And you are an idiot if you think those 4 can stop the army. And there are no technopaths capable of screwing with Apokolips tech.

And it seems people are forgetting how evil Darkseid's prep can be. Didn't anyone remember the technoseeds? Or the seeds of doom which he's sent into the past on occasion?

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/SuperPowersV2_3of6_08.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/SuperPowersV2_5of6_03.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/SuperPowersV2_6of6_07.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/SuperPowersV2_6of6_16.jpg

hellspores, designed to ravage worlds.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/011-SupermanBatman011Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

Or how about using existing villains as first strike proxies, ala Intergang?
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion19kebbin20.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion19kebbin21.jpg

Or the Mighty Promethean Giant?
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion13kebbin06-07.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion13kebbin15.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion13kebbin16.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion014OCD-15.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion014OCD-16.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/orion014OCD-18.jpg
The giant was not freed by the removal of the core of the device, only Red Orion's use of the Anti-life equation to command him stopped his march.

And these are just a few of his resources.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
And you are an idiot if you think those 4 can stop the army.

...They already did. So yes, I guess I am an idiot for reading an issue where the four beings I listed beat back Darkseid's armies. I mean, Jesus, what kind of idiot would pay attention to Apokolips Now?

Nobody with any brains. That story was trash. We've seen what the resources of Darkseid and his forces are. Continue to ignore and belittle them at your leisure.

Apokolips may not win the battle, but Earth will burn.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nobody with any brains. That story was trash. We've seen what the resources of Darkseid and his forces are. Continue to ignore and belittle them at your leisure.

Apokolips may not win the battle, but Earth will burn.

I think if Apokolips were to straight-up attack Earth, they'd get trashed. But with a week prep, I don't know. If you want to say they win, I have no problems with it. Darkseid with prep is wicked. No doubt.

Thought I'd clarify my stance.

Straight up they might lose, but Earth would still take huge losses.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg02.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/Genesis3pg03.jpg
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/zeus4cs.jpg
third scan is referencing the same ship.

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/WonderWoman104-04.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/WonderWoman104-05.jpg

Here's a little tidbit just in case Darkseid gets in trouble.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firstissuespecial_13_p11.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh187/DarkseidRes/Firstissuespecial_13_p12.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Straight up they might lose, but Earth would still take huge losses.

Good. I can't stand Marvel Earth save for some of the street-levelers and Thor. Yay cosmic stuff.

hysterical Thor and Asgard would likely be one of the first targets, considering they are on Earth now.

Unless Apoc makes the mistake of attacking Washington DC first during the 4th of July.

In which case, Cap decapitates Darkseid with his shield then soloes the whole Apok army.

......................Fair point. haermm So how is Bucky making out as the Captain?

Give Doom and RR one week prep and I fancy to think they could come up with something to stop Apok

Not enough time. And they're up against a significantly higher technology base.

What is the name of the cannon that RR built to deal with cosmic threats, the UN etc. I think he has access and built some good tech. Earth would most certainly suffer causalties but Apok would fall

The one he used to shoot LT? NOT CANON. That's an elseworlds.

the UN? Lulz, as if he could get the UN on a moments notice. You grossly underestimate Darkseid's cunning. Do you think Doom&Richards will not be among the first targets of this assault?

Edit: The only other canon is the one from the Ultimate verse, and that's also not canon. And Ultimate Marvel doesn't have the means to stop Apokolips at all.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
The one he used to shoot LT? NOT CANON. That's an elseworlds.

the UN? Lulz, as if he could get the UN on a moments notice. You grossly underestimate Darkseid's cunning. Do you think Doom&Richards will not be among the first targets of this assault?

Edit: The only other canon is the one from the Ultimate verse, and that's also not canon. And Ultimate Marvel doesn't have the means to stop Apokolips at all. couldn't Magneto take down Apokolips by reversing its polarity?

Weren't not really in disagreement Trick. I think Apok with prep could cause some serious damage and maybe take a few victories. I just happen to believe Earth would win more. However, what I am still laughing about is your maybe Thanos could break out of the chains but DS, Orion and Doomsday could lol.

Doom's master's destroy apokolips for the lulz,whilst they are on earth.

Originally posted by Starscream M
couldn't Magneto take down Apokolips by reversing its polarity?

facepalm One, can Magneto actually do that on a whim? And two, you don't think such a thing is easily countered by any of Darkseid's minions, tech, or even Darkseid himself?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
facepalm One, can Magneto actually do that on a whim? And two, you don't think such a thing is easily countered by any of Darkseid's minions, tech, or even Darkseid himself? yes, Magneto can use his powers on a whim...its not like he has to prep

so anything brought up you can just say that darkseid's minions or tech could take care of? thats poor debating

tech would be useless against a master of magnetism...in fact Magneto could turn apok tech against DS like when he took control of all the sentinels in the world

Why would you even bring up Magneto when he's currently in space, depowered ?

Originally posted by Starscream M

so anything brought up you can just say that darkseid's minions or tech could take care of? thats poor debating



Yeah seems to be the answer for everything...

Earth would only need a handful of people to stop this threat.

Yeah, Uncanny 500. Though I've got a feeling a long time will pass by until this plotline will be brought up again.

Who's currently on Marvel Earth that has the power to make a difference?

Wanda is displaying some level of her HoM powers lately.
Tiamut is on or around Earth
Molecule Man?
Doom + Reed Richards with prep can devise a defense.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Who's currently on Marvel Earth that has the power to make a difference?

Wanda is displaying some level of her HoM powers lately.
Tiamut is on or around Earth
Molecule Man?
Doom + Reed Richards with prep can devise a defense.

WE could just say MJJ or MM or Frankie Richards and call it a night but lets entertain the thread....

If Earth is in on the line...
The strongest individuals (for different reasons) would be Dr. Strange, Sentry, Hulk, Thor, Apocalypse, Prof X, Shadow King, Red Skull, Tony Starks, Nick Fury, Kang (if he still around), X-Man, Hyperion, Iceman, Juggs, A loki amp Absorbing man, Stryfe, Mr. Sinister, Zemo, Ultron, Doom

FF, Avengers, X-men and the Affiliates (X-Factor, X-Force, etc), Bros of Mutants, Hellfire Club, Horsemen, Thunderbolts....
Could go on and on....

You need at least one skyfather to hold off Darkseid himself. Most of Marvel Earth's teams aren't powerful to stop him.

if this is current marvel earth it in a bit of a shitty state at the minute, and would'nt be able to defend it's self against any real threat.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You need at least one skyfather to hold off Darkseid himself. Most of Marvel Earth's teams aren't powerful to stop him. thor, sentry, blackbolt, iron man, hulk, and tons of others are more than enough to hold DS back

mortioccus.

Originally posted by Starscream M
couldn't Magneto take down Apokolips by reversing its polarity?


Even if he tries....DS would give him a dose of the Omega Effect or Omega Sanction for his troubles.

Also...if this is the most recent Darkseid...before Batman killed him...DS would have the ALE to use against Earth also.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
facepalm One, can Magneto actually do that on a whim?

do you even read the OP?they have a week to prep,why would mags have to do it "on a whim"?idiot.earth wins

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You need at least one skyfather to hold off Darkseid himself. Most of Marvel Earth's teams aren't powerful to stop him.

THor is a skyfather and he just killed one

Thor isnt skyfather level

Yes he is.

Originally posted by Nestical
do you even read the OP?they have a week to prep,why would mags have to do it "on a whim"?idiot.earth wins Do you even read my posts to you? Stop calling people names.

You call me names.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yes he is. No he's not

Originally posted by iceman24567
No he's not yes he is

nah uh

yeppers

Nope

si

Originally posted by Mindset
You call me names. Like....Mindset?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Thor isnt skyfather level Originally posted by Mindset
Yes he is. Originally posted by iceman24567
No he's not Originally posted by Mindset
yes he is Originally posted by iceman24567
nah uh Originally posted by Mindset
yeppers Originally posted by iceman24567
Nope Originally posted by Mindset
si I'm going to end this right now. Thor maybe, could, kinda, sorta be skyfather level or maybe, could, kinda, sorta not be skyfather level.

Originally posted by Badabing
Like....Mindset?
I'm going to end this right now. Thor maybe, could, kinda, sorta be skyfather level or maybe, could, kinda, sorta not be skyfather level.






"Shyfather" huh...what's he shy about?

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars




"Shyfather" huh...what's he shy about? I have no clue what you're talking about.






That's me typing w/o looking at the keyboard....

Originally posted by Badabing
I have no clue what you're talking about.






That's me typing w/o looking at the keyboard....







I know what you meant...I was just pickin' at ya!!!

Originally posted by Badabing
I have no clue what you're talking about.






That's me typing w/o looking at the keyboard.... Cheater

Originally posted by iceman24567
Cheater shocklaugh

Originally posted by Badabing
Like....Mindset?
No, like sugartits.

wtf, why is t!ts censored

****

I'm not even going to bother arguing for current Darkseid and co. taking over Earth. That's a foregone conclusion. There's no way to stop the ALE without outside help.

And that was a dying and critically weakened Darkseid. The true form (IE: non-boomtubed) versions of Apokolips is a completely onesided battle barring an act of god.

For the sake of fairness, are we to assume they are boomtubed?

why do you always bring up this boomtubed nonsense?

we assume they're normal sized...not some universe sized being that they're never shown to be.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm not even going to bother arguing for current Darkseid and co. taking over Earth. That's a foregone conclusion. There's no way to stop the ALE without outside help.

And that was a dying and critically weakened Darkseid. The true form (IE: non-boomtubed) versions of Apokolips is a completely onesided battle barring an act of god.

For the sake of fairness, are we to assume they are boomtubed? The ale doesn't work on crazy people. So, he gets to email the ale to everyone on earth in this particular thread?

............Do you really think New God tech can't manage that trick in a week?

Hey Quan, let me ask you something. Of the crazy people we saw, which ones were ACTUALLY HUMAN? Because I saw Highfather, Metron and Nix Uotan as unaffected. If there's someone else who was crazy and actually human who was unaffected, then nevermind.

But those 3 are your own only examples, then it may not be crazy people that aren't being affected. We know the New Gods had a counter to the ALE, and Nix Uotan........is Nix Uotan.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
............Do you really think New God tech can't manage that trick in a week?
Marvel Earth gets a week, not Apokolips.

Marvel Earth isn't going to be prepping if they don't know Apokolips is coming. The OP did not say they were aware of the attack.

He is obviously giving Marvel a week to prep against them...


Originally posted by Starscream M
Can Apokolips conquer Marvel Earth given that one week prep period?

Marvel Earth can put up a defense if Apokolips plan is to occupy the planet, otherwise blowing up Earth wouldn't present much of a problem. This is ignoring the most recent incarnation. The ALE would be an automatic victory and current also controls space and time.

Originally posted by Mindset
He is obviously giving Marvel a week to prep against them... Really it doesn't look like it in his post.....

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
............Do you really think New God tech can't manage that trick in a week?

Hey Quan, let me ask you something. Of the crazy people we saw, which ones were ACTUALLY HUMAN? Because I saw Highfather, Metron and Nix Uotan as unaffected. If there's someone else who was crazy and actually human who was unaffected, then nevermind.

But those 3 are your own only examples, then it may not be crazy people that aren't being affected. We know the New Gods had a counter to the ALE, and Nix Uotan........is Nix Uotan. Would you like me to find a scan or something...I specifically remember them shipping off the people it didn't work on. By people I mean whackjob human beings.

The only people it showed on panel that it didn't work on (aside from people with 'the circuit'), weren't what they appeared to be. 2 new gods, and a monitor. As I said, find me a scan other than that scene in FC 5 with those 3. AND IF YOU CAN'T, then we ignore the crazy people thing, since that's an assumption made by Darkseid's lackeys who didn't realize what their prisoners really were.

Alpha Flight stops them

Originally posted by -K-M-
Alpha Flight stops them let me guess, snowbird solos...

Originally posted by Starscream M
let me guess, snowbird solos...

Uuuuuh...no, guess you don't understand a joke

Hey Mungi, would Alpha Flight make a significant dent in the invasion?

Yes

Snowbird becomes an Elder God

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hey Mungi, would Alpha Flight make a significant dent in the invasion?

Yes

Originally posted by -K-M-
Yes snowbird solozzzzz!1!1!11!

Originally posted by Starscream M
snowbird solozzzzz!1!1!11!

She sure does, yep she sure does. wait what?

Lol yes the Canadians pwn hard that's what they were built for