Cell vs. Freeza

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Nemesis X
I've been wondering who would win.

Cell in his final form and Freeza in his final form

Which of these two DBZ villains would win in a fight?

Kero_Co
Um...Cell Jr.

Kento
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I've been wondering who would win.

Cell in his final form and Freeza in his final form

Which of these two DBZ villains would win in a fight?

Have you even watched DBZ??

Nemesis X
Kento, don't be an ass. I'm just asking who would win. Sheesh.

Kento
But it's blatantly obvious who would win..if you know anything about DBZ. By the fact that Freeza is below Super Saiyan.

Nemesis X
But wasn't Freeza still a challenge even when Goku was in Super Saiyan form?

Kento
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.

k1Lla441
Cell is made up of frieza, inculding many other people.

Frieza got killed by trunks like it was nothing, and trunks had a hard time with the other androids, which are below cell.

Cell>> androids>> trunks>> Frieza

Cell at perfect form fought ascended supersaiyans, many of them, while frieza could barely keep up with 1 regular super saiyan, and still lost.

Cell wins this hands down.

Ridley_Prime
Yeah... Gotta hate though how GT made Cell and Frieza look pretty much even in power when they fought kid Goku together. no expression Good thing it's non-canon crap anyway.

Csdabest
Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Kero_Co
Are you sure? Cell was holding back his strength in favor of speed while they were having that whole conversation.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Csdabest
Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane


Interestingly enough, Broly is an ascended saiyan in the ultimate super saiyan form. The speed power and Ki of an ascended saiyan with the raw strength of the ultimate form.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Csdabest
Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

No. Trunks was never more powerful than Cell. Cell even teased him by amping his strength and slowing himself down in that fight IIRC.

danteiscool
freeza was barely able to hold his own against super saiyan goku. cell on the other hand was way too strong for goku to handle. freeza doesn't have a chance in hell against cell.

Kento
Originally posted by dadudemon
Interestingly enough, Broly is an ascended saiyan in the ultimate super saiyan form. The speed power and Ki of an ascended saiyan with the raw strength of the ultimate form. Broli's suppose to be in a completely different form though hence LSSJ. And the whole non-canon thing tends to help.

What I've never understood is that..Trunks had a year to train in the spirit and time room. Why not use that year to work on amping his speed in ussj2 form? That should've been enough time to make up the speed difference. Weighted clothes plus the ever changing gravity in the spirit and time room. Heck why not just bring in a gravity chamber while at it.

Kirikaze Fuuma
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I've been wondering who would win.

Cell in his final form and Freeza in his final form

Which of these two DBZ villains would win in a fight?

Originally posted by k1Lla441
Cell>> androids>> trunks>> Frieza

Cell>>>>>>Frieza. Cell wins this easily.

Kris Blaze
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Cell>>>>>>Frieza. Cell wins this easily.

BradBalboa
Cell....very VERY Easily !!

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by dadudemon
Interestingly enough, Broly is an ascended saiyan in the ultimate super saiyan form. The speed power and Ki of an ascended saiyan with the raw strength of the ultimate form. That's not true.

And Cell obviously, hell a Cell Jr. soloes.

Csdabest
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
No. Trunks was never more powerful than Cell. Cell even teased him by amping his strength and slowing himself down in that fight IIRC.

True but in term of doing that. Cell would have slowed himself down making Trunks have that same exact speed advantage. Before Trunks went all super buff slow. He was argubly on par w/ cell seeing as he was able to keep up and was dealing dmg.

After the second year in the HBTC he should have definetly have been stronger than cell. But im not sure if the Second year was canon or not

I am who I am
Can Cell do the Death Ball?

Kento
If he seen it probably.

yungz22
Originally posted by I am who I am
Can Cell do the Death Ball?

Freiza did that attack on earth when trunks blocked it so im pretty sure he can

Ultimate Wil
Cell

Wei Phoenix
What has Cell done that even puts him at Frieza's level besides beat on many SSJs?

yungz22
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What has Cell done that even puts him at Frieza's level besides beat on many SSJs?


just that beat on SSJs. Have you ever seen frieza do that. Hell Trunks andgoten could take him. plus cell can regenrate and he has exerted way more power than frieza has and ever will

Ultimate Wil
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What has Cell done that even puts him at Frieza's level besides beat on many SSJs?

Beat Super Trunks, enough said. Freeza couldn't even beat SS Goku.

Endless Mike
It's pretty obvious Cell would win, Frieza was no match for a SSJ1 in control of his power, whereas SSJ2 was needed to beat Cell

In fact I remember Goku telling King Kai that Cell was stronger than Frieza

Kris Blaze
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's pretty obvious Cell would win, Frieza was no match for a SSJ1 in control of his power, whereas SSJ2 was needed to beat Cell

In fact I remember Goku telling King Kai that Cell was stronger than Frieza

That was in the fillers mind you, after Pikkon defeated them both easily. Goku mentioned how he couldn't defeat Cell.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That was in the fillers mind you, after Pikkon defeated them both easily. Goku mentioned how he couldn't defeat Cell.
And yet, Goku still beat Pikkon in the Other World Tournament not too long after..

I still think Cell would've beaten Pikkon had he not been taken by surprise (before Goku and Pikkon trained with the Grand Kai that is).

Kris Blaze
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
And yet, Goku still beat Pikkon in the Other World Tournament not too long after..

I still think Cell would've beaten Pikkon had he not been taken by surprise (before Goku and Pikkon trained with the Grand Kai that is).

What the hell does Goku and Pikkon have to do with anything?

It was used to clarify how much stronger Cell is than Frieza.

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
And yet, Goku still beat Pikkon in the Other World Tournament not too long after..

I still think Cell would've beaten Pikkon had he not been taken by surprise (before Goku and Pikkon trained with the Grand Kai that is). Or we can just agree that piece of noncanon fail was crap.

Quincy
How is this thread still open?

The winner is obvious.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Kento
Broli's suppose to be in a completely different form though hence LSSJ. And the whole non-canon thing tends to help.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
That's not true.


I can use whatever adjectives to describe him as I want. big grin


He had the lightening of the ASSJ form, and he had the rediculous bulk increase of the USSJ form. See how that works?



If Trunks HAD kept going in the Ultimate form and amped himself up with just a buttload of power, why couldn't there be a form very similar to Broli's? An ascended ulitmate super saiyan.

ASSJ is just lots of more power and ki in the SSJ form. the USSJ is just lots of raw power in the SSJ form. I wouldn't say that it is any slower than just plain SSJ, though. Perfect Cell WAS faster than Trunks...but I wouldn't say leagues beyond...like the difference between imperfect cell and perfect cell.

ThunderGodEneru
Only he official Daizenshu states Broly's SSJ form is completely unique to him.

It made him stronger, faster, nigh invulnerable, and his power continued to rise the longer he was in the form.

Csdabest
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asERFFP_78E&feature=related

As you see Trunks and vegeta were very on par with one another. But thing is Perfect cell got into trunks head and made him bulk up. But hey thats all fighting right there.

Wei Phoenix
Just because Cell was able to beat up/fight Goku evenly during the Cell Games doesn't mean he'll beat Frieza!

Icy Ninja
Cell would kick his ass even if frieza was stronger then Cell (he isn't) he would have to destroy every single cell of his or Cell would come back stronger thanks to his Saiyen(sp?) cells in him.

Cell is also more durable, Frieza was killed by Trunk's sword and didn't that sword break when he used it on cell or am getting it mixed up with some one else

ThunderGodEneru
It broke on Android 18 I believe.

Icy Ninja
Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
It broke on Android 18 I believe.
Alright thanks for the info I wasn't sure if it was Cell or one of the androids. smile

Tommy Jarvis
Originally posted by Nemesis X
I've been wondering who would win.

Cell in his final form and Freeza in his final form

Which of these two DBZ villains would win in a fight?

All these years I've been on multiple forums and I'm still baffled as to why stupid threads like this are made. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that if it takes one level up to defeat a new villain villain rather than the previous level it took to defeat the past villain that the newer villain would win. Seriously, it's nothing to wonder about. It's like asking who'll win between Nappa and Trunks, it's not a real fight.

Placidity
lol you all fail for feeding.

Tommy Jarvis
Lol, quite possibly true, but I had to state my two cents.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
All these years I've been on multiple forums and I'm still baffled as to why stupid threads like this are made. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that if it takes one level up to defeat a new villain villain rather than the previous level it took to defeat the past villain that the newer villain would win. Seriously, it's nothing to wonder about. It's like asking who'll win between Nappa and Trunks, it's not a real fight.

Not exactly. Villain B isn't always stronger than villian A because he came later. There are many examples of people who are stronger than others who came after them.

Placidity
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not exactly. Villain B isn't always stronger than villian A because he came later. There are many examples of people who are stronger than others who came after them.

Cmon Wei, you're making it too obvious big grin

Wei Phoenix
I still stand by Frieza stomping Cell. I've only seen Cell beat up on SSJs and ASSJs and fighting a SSJ2. There is no proof that Frieza couldn't do the same. Not really...

Well yeah that logic works in DBZ but not in other animes like Fist of the North Star, Kinnikuman, and Zoids Guardian Force.

Tommy Jarvis
Um...Freeza got beat by a SSJ....twice, Cell stomped all over practically every version, except SSJ2. You have to be stupid to believe Freeza could beat Cell or that Cell could beat Buu.

Tommy Jarvis
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not exactly. Villain B isn't always stronger than villian A because he came later. There are many examples of people who are stronger than others who came after them.

That wasn't what I was saying so I see you missed my point. Cell came at a time when the Saiyans had to train to become stronger to defeat the Androids whom are stronger than Cell. By Cell absorbing the Androids, he transcended any known form of SSJ, causing the Saiyans to once again have to train. Saying Freeza could beat Cell is like saying Freeza could beat SSJ2 Gohan, or SSJ3 Goku. See how ridiculous that sounds? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Wei Phoenix
Frieza uses his death ball on the other side of earth and kills them all. No SSJ of any level outside of Broly can survive and a planet busting attack.

Tommy Jarvis
What makes you believe that? Because Broly said so? Saiyans are naturally arrogant, and plus, if a level higher than LSSJ can't survive a planet bursting attack, why would I believe a lower form can. Dude, use real logic.

Wei Phoenix
Broly did survive Vegeta's explosion. Goku and company can't survive planet busting attacks. Broly isn't arrogant either. How do you think Broly and his father were still alive? You think they weren't on Vegeta when Frieza blew it up? He shielded himself and his father.

Ultimate Wil
Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
What makes you believe that? Because Broly said so? Saiyans are naturally arrogant, and plus, if a level higher than LSSJ can't survive a planet bursting attack, why would I believe a lower form can. Dude, use real logic.

Broly did survive Vegeta's explosion, didn't he? Are you just making stuff up now?

Tommy Jarvis
Broly survived multiple attacks, but nothing in line of a planet bursting attack.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
Broly survived multiple attacks, but nothing in line of a planet bursting attack.

one moment please.

Kento
Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
Broly survived multiple attacks, but nothing in line of a planet bursting attack. Broli was able to shield, while as a baby, himself, and Paragus from Vegeta's explosion when Freeza blew it up.

Wei Phoenix
Thank you for waiting.

starts at 1:45

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To recap Broly wasn't in LSSJ mode, he was stabbed prior to the explosion and left for dead. The planet exploded and him and his father survived as he said hence Broly can survive planet busting attacks.

dadudemon
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Thank you for waiting.

I'd like to go on record as the one who waited. It was me, so I gladly say, "you are welcome."




Edit- this kind of tickles a little bit. Tickly and tingly.

Tommy Jarvis
Lol, he shielded him, he didn't take the blast directly, which is my point. In any case, that doesn't help your argument that Freeza can beat Cell, because he clearly can't.

atv2
Frieza dead.

Icy Ninja
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Frieza uses his death ball on the other side of earth and kills them all. No SSJ of any level outside of Broly can survive and a planet busting attack.
That wouldn't work on cell when he went to self destruct they said it was a planet destroyer that's why Goku had to warp them away. Cell survived a planet destroying blast and he was the very center of it. I highly doubt Freiza has anything as powerful enough to wipe out everyone of Cell's cells and do it before Cell can stop him and Cells speed>then Freiza speed

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Tommy Jarvis
Lol, he shielded him, he didn't take the blast directly, which is my point. In any case, that doesn't help your argument that Freeza can beat Cell, because he clearly can't.

Yeah I been said that. He survived the explosion. It doesn't matter if he took a direct hit or if he held a shield up he still survived it. You don't have to neccessarily be hurt to survive something. Also if you read my earlier posts today then you would've understood where I stand on this.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd like to go on record as the one who waited. It was me, so I gladly say, "you are welcome."




Edit- this kind of tickles a little bit. Tickly and tingly.

Thank you for saying you're welcome.

Originally posted by Icy Ninja
That wouldn't work on cell when he went to self destruct they said it was a planet destroyer that's why Goku had to warp them away. Cell survived a planet destroying blast and he was the very center of it. I highly doubt Freiza has anything as powerful enough to wipe out everyone of Cell's cells and do it before Cell can stop him and Cells speed>then Freiza speed

I know but that would work on any of the Saiyans.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What the hell does Goku and Pikkon have to do with anything?

It was used to clarify how much stronger Cell is than Frieza.
I know, but I was saying what I said to point out that Pikkon is most likely not stronger than Cell. He only beat him because he had the element of surprise (that, and Cell was focused on Goku). Of course, Frieza's nowhere near Pikkon's level, so it wouldn't of made a difference if he had been aware of his presence from the start.

Guess you can call that another example of how much stronger Cell is than Frieza.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Or we can just agree that piece of noncanon fail was crap.
Even better stick out tongue, though I did like Olibu to be honest. Was a pretty cool filler character. He should've been in one of the Budokai Tenkaichi games (at least the 3rd one). erm

big juggy man
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.


Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

Ultimate Wil
Cell can pretty much suck Freeza in and make an ultimate form

ThunderGodEneru
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Even better stick out tongue, though I did like Olibu to be honest. Was a pretty cool filler character. He should've been in one of the Budokai Tenkaichi games (at least the 3rd one). erm Olibu was the big blonde guy who was apparently what most of Earth's heroic legends were based on right? If so, yeah, he was actually pretty cool.

Ridley_Prime
Yeah, that's the one. ^^ Glad you agree. thumb up

Csdabest
Originally posted by big juggy man
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.


Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

Where was it stated that he only used what percent of his strenght. I dont remember seeing anything of the sorts

Endless Mike
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That was in the fillers mind you, after Pikkon defeated them both easily. Goku mentioned how he couldn't defeat Cell.

No, I'm talking about earlier, when he had to use King Kai's planet as a a stop in order to find Dende to make him the new Kami

Ultimate Wil
How is this debate still even going? It is very clear that Cell stomps.

chidori210
Cell wins hands down

Ultimate Wil
I know, why is it still going? Even a blind person knows who wins.

gogogadgetgo
Originally posted by big juggy man
First Gokou wasn't really that serious against him, as he gave him multiple chances to give up and change. Two SSJ Gokou against Freeza was weaker than SSJ Trunks when he first appeared and treated Metal Freeza like he was nothing. SSJ Vegeta was in turn more powerful than both. And then USSJ Vegeta was more powerful than he was against 19. And Perfect Cell treated him like he was nothing.


Wrong Goku wasn't toying with Freeza and if you read the manga you would see that. Goku was only slighty more powerful than Freeza. Freeza's power level apparenlty drops quicker than Goku's did and it was probably because he took alot of damage before he used 100 percent of his power.

Actually trunks was more powerful than Cell. He just didnt have the speed. Argubly he was overrall stronger than cell After he got healed and went back to his time. If he ever goes Super Saiyan 2 he would be insane

Wrong again. The manga stated that Cell was only using 40 percent of his full power against Trunks and only 50 percent against Goku. The only person he used 100 percent of his power on was Gohan when he went SSJ 2

Anyway I noticed alot of these dumb Dragonball vs threads. Broly vs SSJ Gogeto or Broly vs Omega Shenron. Jeesh watch the show before you make dumb threads. Freiza isn't stronger than King Cold based on the manga or Cell in his first form.

no, trunks wasnt really more powerful than cell. what he did was focus all of his ki into strength / power thus creating the appearance that he was more powerful. vegeta could have also been more powerful than cell if he also focused on power. but he saw through this as did goku. they both new that if they pumped up their power they'd be stupidly slow. trunks didnt see this coz he was green when it came to fighting.

also, cell showed trunks the error of this by also pumping up his power thus becoming more powerful than trunks (and probably just as slow).

and where does it say that cell was only using 40% of his power vs trunks and 50% against goku? i dont seem to recall watching it nor reading it.

Endless Mike
Why is this thread still here?

Nemesis X
Shut up.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Shut up.
no, u!

yungz22
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
no, trunks wasnt really more powerful than cell. what he did was focus all of his ki into strength / power thus creating the appearance that he was more powerful. vegeta could have also been more powerful than cell if he also focused on power. but he saw through this as did goku. they both new that if they pumped up their power they'd be stupidly slow. trunks didnt see this coz he was green when it came to fighting.

also, cell showed trunks the error of this by also pumping up his power thus becoming more powerful than trunks (and probably just as slow).

and where does it say that cell was only using 40% of his power vs trunks and 50% against goku? i dont seem to recall watching it nor reading it.

I remember the goku part but not trunks

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
no, u!

no, u!

Demonic Phoenix
ABC logic, Cell wins stick out tongue

My opinion, depends on which body cell is using...anything short of the body that comes from absorbing 17 & 18, can be taken care of 3rd form Frieza...or his true form?.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
ABC logic, Cell wins stick out tongue

My opinion, depends on which body cell is using...anything short of the body that comes from absorbing 17 & 18, can be taken care of 3rd form Frieza...or his true form?.
Not really. When Piccolo fused with Kami, he became as strong as Android 17, which of course is stronger than Frieza in any form, and once Cell (in his 1st form) absorbed enough humans, he became as strong as 16 and beat Piccolo pretty easily.

Frieza's true form might beat Cell's 1st form though if he's barely absorbed any humans at all yet.

Demonic Phoenix
Heh, well, I don't really know much about their capabilities as fighters, or their power levels (those might help out here though stick out tongue?)...so I can't really debate about it. My opinion still stands stick out tongue.

niduin
cell would completely ignore freeza, his aura alone would probably vaporize him

Tyrant
Agreed with niduin.

Cell is so out of his league, it's ridiculous.

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Tyrant
Agreed with niduin.

Cell is so out of his league, it's ridiculous.
lolwut? I hope you meant Frieza on that last part.

Tyrant
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
lolwut? I hope you meant Frieza on that last part.

Yeah, Frieza loses.

Horribly. Like nobody from Frieza's bloodline should be compared to any of the infinity model androids. Especially not Cell.

niduin
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
lolwut? I hope you meant Frieza on that last part. well being out of someones legue doesnt mean they are worse than them

BruceSkywalker
Cell all the way

KingD19
Considering Trunks beat Android Freiza, who was stronger than 100% Frieza, got beaten by lvl 2 Cell after a year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. I think it's safe to say Cell absorbs Frieza for the hell of it.

yungz22
Originally posted by KingD19
Considering Trunks beat Android Freiza, who was stronger than 100% Frieza, got beaten by lvl 2 Cell after a year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. I think it's safe to say Cell absorbs Frieza for the hell of it.

1. trunks got beat by lv3 cell
2.Cell wouldnt absord freiza because he already has freiza's cells

KingD19
1.Cell(No lips, tail)
2.Imperfect Cell(Weird puffy lips, tail)(Absorbed 17)
3. Perfect Cell(Cool, no tail)(Absorbed 18)

Two is when Cell was whooping on Trunks, then Vegeta came, and was whooping on Cell. Then Cell used Vegetas arrogance to let him absorb 18 and become perfect. Remember, Cell was making fun of how Trunks was much stronger physically, but his speed was suffering fom his enlarged muscle mass.

And I said for the hell of it, even though he already had his cells, he could do it just to be mean.

niduin
no i dont think he would obsorb him, i think he would just kill him, or have him fight a cell jr.

captzero05
Well... I will root for Cell. Especially if he is the Perfect Cell. He will definitely absorb and eat Freeza.

Kento
Originally posted by KingD19
1.Cell(No lips, tail)
2.Imperfect Cell(Weird puffy lips, tail)(Absorbed 17)
3. Perfect Cell(Cool, no tail)(Absorbed 18)

Two is when Cell was whooping on Trunks, then Vegeta came, and was whooping on Cell. Then Cell used Vegetas arrogance to let him absorb 18 and become perfect. Remember, Cell was making fun of how Trunks was much stronger physically, but his speed was suffering fom his enlarged muscle mass.

And I said for the hell of it, even though he already had his cells, he could do it just to be mean. You're confusing some stuff up..Trunks was loosing to Perfect Cell when Cell said that. It was after Vegeta was knocked out because Trunks wouldn't go USSJ2 because he didn't want to show up Vegeta in power. But lost speed so Perfect Cell was able to beat him. Vegeta was beating on Semi-Perfect Cell then let him become perfect because of his arrogance. Trunks tried to stop it but Semi-Perfect Cell wasn't a match for Vegeta or Trunks.

Any Cell still beats Freeza without any trouble..With maybe the exception of the Cell that was first shown, and had trouble against Piccolo. But even then by three years time Piccolo probably rose above Freeza.

Quincy
How is this thread still ****ing OPEN!?

Nemesis X
Originally posted by Quincy
How is this thread still ****ing OPEN!?

rolling on floor laughing

I oughta put up more spite threads because reactions like this make my day.

niduin
Originally posted by Nemesis X
rolling on floor laughing

I oughta put up more spite threads because reactions like this make my day. LOL, but seriously i cant beleive it hasent been closed this is so obviously spite, oh well its fun to talk about

yungz22
its funny that when you say how is this thread open you actually are keeping it alive

First_Tsurugi06
If anything is to be learned with DBZ, it's that tiers are dependant on the series progression. What it took to actually surpass Cell was SSJ2, what it took to beat Frieza was a SSJ1. It really is simple as that with DBZ, and it was only ever so much as marginally broken with the Buu saga; Gohan's decrease in power due to a lack of training (prior to becoming Ultimate Gohan), and Super Buu reverting into Kid Buu.

As many here should know, Cell was meant to be the final villain (Hell, on two occasions, Gohan was meant to finish the series), and they'd kind of established that much with his concept of having the genes of virtually every character before him, Frieza included (it's probably why so many games end at the Cell saga). That means he had also gained Frieza's capacity for survival in just about any area regardless of it's condition (including outer space). Even if Frieza did try to blow up the planet, that would actually still be trumped by Cell's potential solar system busting Kamehameha wave. That, or even if Frieza was on the other side of the planet, Cell could just IT himself there and be done with it. Cell at his highest peak was equal at best to a SSJ2 (at least an injured one), Frieza was never any more powerful than an initial SSJ1, and lost power rapidly. There's nothing Frieza can do that Cell isn't capable of on a higher scale.

niduin
yep, what it should be is a cell jr's cell jr fighting freeza that might be a decent fight (if it were posible)

Ridley_Prime
A decent fight? Not really. I mean, one of them Cell Juniors cancelled out Super Vegeta's Final Flash with relative ease. You think Frieza has any chance against that?

niduin
no i mean if a cell jr made a cell jr that one would be way weaker and could fight freeza, yeah i guess i wasnt clear

niduin
im only posting so i can be the 100th post

Kinkin
Haha who could think Freeza wins??

Ridley_Prime
Originally posted by Kinkin
Haha who could think Freeza wins??
No one hopefully, but just for good measure, I'm gonna pull a Mike until this thread dies again.

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/bentley_basset_hound_01.jpg_w450.jpg

XanatosForever
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
No one hopefully, but just for good measure, I'm gonna pull a Mike until this thread dies again.

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/bentley_basset_hound_01.jpg_w450.jpg

Way to be original, Ridley roll eyes (sarcastic) stick out tongue

shane8874
WOW, thats like super vegeta vs Tien

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by shane8874
WOW, thats like super vegeta vs Tien

Well Tien did whoop 2nd form Cell....

deathcon27
cell would destroy frieza even in his weakest form he far surpassed goku when he had first become a ssj (which was more than enough for frieza)

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