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No weapons.

No BFR.

Who wins?

Wolverine by decision

Luke Cage by bfr

Split or unanimous?

Originally posted by golem370
Luke Cage by bfr

They dont do that in UFC.

wolverine wins.. mostly by submission, he is a better fighter...but cage could easily knock him out.

Cage by knockout.

Originally posted by wolverex84
wolverine wins.. mostly by submission, he is a better fighter...but cage could easily knock him out.

How would Logan make Cage (a 20 tonner?) submit? How would Cage knock Logan out?

I don't think either is going to put the other down under these stipulations. I agree with Mungi; Wolverine wins by decision.

Luke Cage via third round stoppage.

Originally posted by Warrior18
How would Logan make Cage (a 20 tonner?) submit? How would Cage knock Logan out? Are u saying that Wolverine can't be KO'd?

Originally posted by Leobama
Are u saying that Wolverine can't be KO'd?

No.

Logan has been knocked out many times. and in this senario, all cage has to do in order to win is knock Wolverine the hell out.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Logan has been knocked out many times. and in this senario, all cage has to do in order to win is knock Wolverine the hell out.

Logan has repeatedly throughout his career taken shots from guys as strong as or stronger than Luke Cage and not been knocked out. Incredible healing factor anyone?

Show me scans of someone around Luke's strength knocking Logan out the way you say he would.

As EternalIdol already said neither of these two can really put the other down in this scenario.Unless of course Luke sits on Logan and smothers him.

wolverine gets choked out, you all know this to be true!

Originally posted by Naija boy
Luke Cage via third round stoppage. Probably.

Originally posted by Juk3n
wolverine gets choked out, you all know this to be true!

Cage's best shot would be to corner Wolverine, then follow with either ground and pound or a choke-out. My first inclination was to give Cage the fight, but then I had to take into account Wolverine's speed, agility, and skill advantage. While he wouldn't be able to knock Cage out, he could very well dance around him and attack just to keep him off-balance and tire him out.

If Cage applies a rear naked choke...then wolverine goes night night....there is no adamantium protecting Wolverine from a blood choke of any kind. So, yeah Cage can win by that method. Cage couldn't beat him any other way...as far as I know.

I don't see Cage doing much in 5 min rounds to be honest, but I can see as Idol mentioned Wolverine using his skill, speed, agility to peck away at him for the points.

Wolverine would be a bloody mess, they would probably stop the fight.

Originally posted by Mindset
Wolverine would be a bloody mess, they would probably stop the fight.

Only if the blood impairs his fighting or becomes unsafe to the fighter, but with that healing factor and never say die attitude the fight wouldn't be stopped because of it.

if the blood goes in their eyes, and since the rules weren't moddified = fight stoppage no matter what.

logan can't make cage bleed period, but cage can make logan bleed plenty. the strength advantage and small ring size pretty much gives cage the dominent role in the fight, if he gets a hold of him or worse gets a mount on wolverine, def tko.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Only if the blood impairs his fighting or becomes unsafe to the fighter, but with that healing factor and never say die attitude the fight wouldn't be stopped because of it. Never die attitude wouldn't really affect much, a cut over the eye has stopped many fighters from finishing their fights, no matter how much they wanted to continue.

The Ref would deem that the blood covering Wolverine's eyes would impair his ability to fight safely.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if the blood goes in their eyes = fight stoppage no matter what. ufc/mma rules don't take into account powers, so it wouldn't be any different.

Logan wins. He could easily make it go to decision.

stopage is extremely unlikly. Logan body would heal the damage area extremely fast and bleeding would stop almost instantly.

also blood in the eye is not an immediate stoppage. I have seen fighters fight with cuts over there eyes. It really depends if they allow it to show it effecting them greatly. Some one with Logans senshes could easily keep fighting as if nothing was wrong

Originally posted by Battlehammer
stopage is extremely unlikly. Logan body would heal the damage area extremely fast and bleeding would stop almost instantly.

also blood in the eye is not an immediate stoppage. I have seen fighters fight with cuts over there eyes. It really depends if they allow it to show it effecting them greatly. Some one with Logans senshes could easily keep fighting as if nothing was wrong
The blood would stop if he were not hit again, do you really think that would happen in a small octagon?

Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.

a luke cage ground & pound would make him bleed.

Originally posted by Mindset
The blood would stop if he were not hit again, do you really think that would happen in a small octagon?

Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.
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the blood would stop reguardless if he was hit again. also you keep assuming Luke going to be land a lot of hits he aint, nor wil it be easy to causes Logan the cut over the eye and bleed a lot. Not to mention the fact Logan even if he had blood in his eyes could fight as if he was fine, which would mean it unlikly any type of stopagae would occure

Originally posted by psycho gundam
a luke cage ground & pound would make him bleed.
yea and how does he get the faster, more agile and vastly superior fight to the ground?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if the blood goes in their eyes, and since the rules weren't moddified = fight stoppage no matter what.

logan can't make cage bleed period, but cage can make logan bleed plenty. the strength advantage and small ring size pretty much gives cage the dominent role in the fight, if he gets a hold of him or worse gets a mount on wolverine, def tko.

Not exactally true, blood can always get in the eye even from a cut on the forehead, or below the eye but that does not justify a stoppage as per the rules. A justifed stoppage would be a cut above the eye, with a continous amount of blood flowing into the eye, as the stoppage would be from the blood imparing the figher or it's dangerous to the fighter to continue (as per the MMA rules) which would not be the case with Wolverine. Also that's definetly not true at all the fight would be stopped no matter what. Far from it actually. There have been MANY MANY MANY mma fights that have become a complete and utter bloodbath, but were not stopped. Wolverine would not be continously bleeding either as I mentioned earlier.

If the likes of Hulk, Sasquatch, Wendigo etc. can't make him a bloody mess it's very very unlikely Cage can. Heck, Wolverine fights in frequent tight quarters this is not anything special. Also in mma settings having just strength is not an instant win as many many many mma matches have shown.

Originally posted by Mindset
Never die attitude wouldn't really affect much, a cut over the eye has stopped many fighters from finishing their fights, no matter how much they wanted to continue.

The Ref would deem that the blood covering Wolverine's eyes would impair his ability to fight safely.

Because it impaired their fighting, and was continually bleeding making it unsafe for the fighter to continue which wouldn't be the case for Wolverine

Wolverine would easily recover, blood would not stop the fight with Wolverine.
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Quick question out of this thread who here follows MMA? WEC was tonight, and was pretty awful.

I'd just like to say, WW Hulk was hitting Logan far harder than Cage ever could, and his face wasn't really bloody, just seriously bruised. He did knock him unconscious though, after a bunch of punches to the face.

I watch MMA love that shit.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Not exactally true, blood can always get in the eye even from a cut on the forehead, or below the eye but that does not justify a stoppage as per the rules. A justifed stoppage would be a cut above the eye, with a continous amount of blood flowing into the eye, as the stoppage would be from the blood imparing the figher or it's dangerous to the fighter to continue (as per the MMA rules) which would not be the case with Wolverine. Also that's definetly not true at all the fight would be stopped no matter what. Far from it actually. There have been MANY MANY MANY mma fights that have become a complete and utter bloodbath, but were not stopped. Wolverine would not be continously bleeding either as I mentioned earlier.

If the likes of Hulk, Sasquatch, Wendigo etc. can't make him a bloody mess it's very very unlikely Cage can. Heck, Wolverine fights in frequent tight quarters this is not anything special. Also in mma settings having just strength is not an instant win as many many many mma matches have shown.



Because it impaired their fighting, and was continually bleeding making it unsafe for the fighter to continue which wouldn't be the case for Wolverine

Wolverine would easily recover, blood would not stop the fight with Wolverine.
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Quick question out of this thread who here follows MMA? WEC was tonight, and was pretty awful.






Exactly right. I haven't watched WEC in a long time...I need to catch up on it.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
Exactly right. I haven't watched WEC in a long time...I need to catch up on it.

I'm glad their focusing on the lightweight divisions now, but some of the fights tonight were properly the worst I have ever seen. In one fight (Rob McCullough vs. Marcus Hicks) the referee told both fights if they don't fight he was going to call it a no-contest. It was bad, real bad.

Originally posted by Mindset
Really, because every time I've seen someone get blood in their eye the fights stop almost immediately, or within the next couple hits.

It's not, it's only stopped as mentioned if it impairs the fighters ability to fight or is dangerous for him/her to continue. Blood in the eyes is most definetly NOT an instant fight stoppage

Originally posted by Battlehammer
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the blood would stop reguardless if he was hit again. also you keep assuming Luke going to be land a lot of hits he aint, nor wil it be easy to causes Logan the cut over the eye and bleed a lot. Not to mention the fact Logan even if he had blood in his eyes could fight as if he was fine, which would mean it unlikly any type of stopagae would occure The blood would stop if Luke didn't hit him again.

I'm assuming Luke will be able to hit him, not too much of an assumption, I don't see where I said he will be landing lots of hits, he doesn't need to to make him bleed.

If Logan suddenly lost his vision or it was impaired he would take a good amount of hits before he would be able to counter, unless you have scans of him suddenly able to rely on his other senses while losing his vision in the middle of a fight, idk. This would appear to the ref as the blood impairing his performance.

Originally posted by -K-M-
It's not, it's only stopped as mentioned if it impairs the fighters ability to fight or is dangerous for him/her to continue. Blood in the eyes is most definetly NOT an instant fight stoppage

I said almost immediately or within the next couple hits, which from my experience is true.

The refs don't take long to see if the fighter is able to continue.

How long have you seen a fight go on like that?

Originally posted by Mindset
This would appear to the ref as the blood impairing his performance.

Not exactally true, as most MMA refs always give the fighter a chance to recover and don't instantly stop fights as for one that would upset the crowd and when it comes to it they want to make the fights entertaining. If it was really bad, they would ask the doctor if he could continue. It's the doctors call usually if the blood or cut is impairing the fighter. The refree halts the action and calls the doctor to check on the blood or cut, but and by the time Wolverine would be seen he would be fully recovered with no cuts so a doctor stoppage is very unlikely.

A refree stoppage would be a fighter as from the rules "can't intelligently defend himself" so that's when the refree steps in and halts the fight.

Originally posted by Mindset
I said almost immediately or within the next couple hits, which from my experience is true.

The refs don't take long to see if the fighter is able to continue.

How long have you seen a fight go on like that?

That's not true though, the doctor makes the call not the referee.

Not true again, look at Big John McCarthy who is considered the best MMA referee in the game. He gives fighters ample time to recover, and stops fights as I mentioned above when the fighter cannot intelligently defend himself.

Bad cut in the first round, and the fight continued and went to a decision. Seen that many times. Hell look at the Edwin Dewees and Gideon Ray fight. Edwin had one of the worst cuts I have seen and the blood came out like a fountain and they were rolling on the mat and the blood was getting into both fighters eyes but the fight wasn't called.

yeah, the dewees fight was a blood bath, he walked in the fight a platinum blonde and walked out a copper top. all from a couple elbows to the brow.

Wolverine KOed Roughouse, and worked over Domina bare knuckles so if he wanted to get into a slug fest with Luke it is possible he could pull off a knockout...

but post Manifest Destiny Logan one-shot pressure points him.

roughhouse's skin has average asgardian durability, cage is steel hard, pressure points are unlikely.

Bump

wolverine pressure point ko, if he can ko rogue with a pressure point attack then luke has no chance.

Yeah, but in contrast to the Dewees fight you have the first Vitor/Couture fight which was stopped almost instantly when Randy got his eyelid cut open.

I assume no weapons means no claws for wolverine...
The question is Luke cage who is stronger, bulletproof, and larger going against the smaller faster opponent.

While we can argue that in comics a person can win a fight against someone that much stronger and impervious... How likely is that?

An armbar would be difficult to pull off against either opponent seeing as cage probably can't break wolverines arm.... Whereas if wolverine tried it against cage a bicep flex and wolverines off of him

honestly Cage would win... While neither could truly hurt the other
cage if he gets wolverine into a proper hold would make it damn near impossible for wolverine to get out of... But the opposite is not true...

In the end a decision would go to cages favor when a stop or ko is not possible...

And as to wolverine dodging cage... It's a small ring...

i already said pressure point ko for wolverine to win!!!!!

Originally posted by dmills
Yeah, but in contrast to the Dewees fight you have the first Vitor/Couture fight which was stopped almost instantly when Randy got his eyelid cut open.

Dewees cut wasn't on the eyes, while Randy's was. Having a cut on the eyes or just above the eye is as noted by the rules a justifiable stoppage as it directly impair the fighters ability to fight intelligently. With Wolverine having a healing factor is very unlikely that will be the cause

Wolverine would probably do illegal blows and lose.

Name one person in wolverines range that has pressure pointed Luke cage and I'll change my vote

Originally posted by rotiart
Name one person in wolverines range that has pressure pointed Luke cage and I'll change my vote what?!

how about i name someone who is equally as durable or better then luke that wolverine has pressured point ko'ed?

it was Rogue with Ms. Marvel powers yes, she is outclasses luke in durability invulnerability and strength..

Luke has harder skin

Originally posted by Mindset
Luke has harder skin that is b/c not using lotions also explains his asheyness......... but Rogue has taken some pretty high piercing damage without injury, blunt and energy attacks as if were nothing taking hits from hulk as if it was a spring shower.

What Hulk was that?

Originally posted by Mindset
What Hulk was that? hmm.....the green one?...

savage hulk during the fall of mutants if iirc...

there have bn other run ins with the savage hulk and the X-men where she took his punches and ground pounds....

Must be PIS.

Because he would rape and eat any Rogue.

ANY Rogue.

Originally posted by Mindset
Must be PIS.

Because he would rape and eat any Rogue.

ANY Rogue. the cry of the loser..

lets not forget juggernaut and colossus as well..

Yea, they'd rape her too.

It rubs the lotion on the skin or it gets the HOSE AGAIN!

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, they'd rape her too. only jugg, her powerset is too much for colossus and she can take a decent amount of damage b4 she needs to drain him and she can hit pretty hard due to her flight power and momentum.

Rogue getting tagged by wolveine is more a low showing for rogue than a high one for wolverine...

It's the equivalent of the bp ss armpinch

if you think wolverines pressure point techniques are gonna work your putting wolverine above a specialist in that field like iron fist. :-/

Originally posted by rotiart
Rogue getting tagged by wolveine is more a low showing for rogue than a high one for wolverine...

It's the equivalent of the bp ss armpinch

if you think wolverines pressure point techniques are gonna work your putting wolverine above a specialist in that field like iron fist. :-/ sigh... what do you know about wolverines pressure point attacks?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
that is b/c not using lotions also explains his asheyness......... but Rogue has taken some pretty high piercing damage without injury, blunt and energy attacks as if were nothing taking hits from hulk as if it was a spring shower.

luke took a punch form WWH unphased if i rememeber correctly

hard call but i agree with

Originally posted by rotiart
I assume no weapons means no claws for wolverine...
The question is Luke cage who is stronger, bulletproof, and larger going against the smaller faster opponent.

While we can argue that in comics a person can win a fight against someone that much stronger and impervious... How likely is that?

An armbar would be difficult to pull off against either opponent seeing as cage probably can't break wolverines arm.... Whereas if wolverine tried it against cage a bicep flex and wolverines off of him

honestly Cage would win... While neither could truly hurt the other
cage if he gets wolverine into a proper hold would make it damn near impossible for wolverine to get out of... But the opposite is not true...

In the end a decision would go to cages favor when a stop or ko is not possible...

And as to wolverine dodging cage... It's a small ring...

Originally posted by ankur29
luke took a punch form WWH unphased if i rememeber correctly

Wasn't that Hiroim?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wasn't that Hiroim?

i don't remember

anyone?

Originally posted by -K-M-
It rubs the lotion on the skin or it gets the HOSE AGAIN!

most sensible thing anyone's said this whole damned thread.

Originally posted by rotiart
Rogue getting tagged by wolveine is more a low showing for rogue than a high one for wolverine...

It's the equivalent of the bp ss armpinch
Least sensible thing anyone's said this whole thread.

i was pretty sure i was making some sense..

i also swear some posters hear just make asinine comments to annoy and instigate other posters. i wont name, names but, you know who i am talking about.