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They face each other in matches to determine who is better in certain areas.


Despero will use every ability he has shown to the fullest as will Thanos.


1. Hand to hand. V and v despero vs. Thanos

2. Arm wrestling. V and V Des vs. Thanos

3. Telepathic assault

4. Matter Manip. Flame of pytar Despero vs. Thanos

5. Full out no holds barred fight. All of Despero's combined vs. The best of thanos.

1. Despero
2. Despero
3. Despero
4. Thanos
5. Thanos

1. thanos
2. despero
3. stalemate
4. thanos
5. thanos

thanos wins all of them except 2

Originally posted by Nihilist
1. thanos
2. despero
3. stalemate
4. thanos
5. thanos The flame of pytar is some serious reality bending power. you sure about that one?

Thanos is ****ed.

1. Thanos.
2. Thanos.
3. Stalemate.
4. Despero.
5. Thanos.

Originally posted by Enyalus
1. Thanos.
2. Thanos.
3. Stalemate.
4. Despero.
5. Thanos. what strength feats does thanos have that put him above v and v despero in an arm wresling contect. I'm interested to know.

Originally posted by fangirl101
what strength feats does thanos have that put him above v and v despero in an arm wresling contect. I'm interested to know.

All V & V Despero did strengthwise was keep the Rock of Eternity from falling on him...

And the Rock in that instance looked no more than, say, football field sized. Dunno how big it is inside, but...

Originally posted by Enyalus
All V & V Despero did strengthwise was keep the Rock of Eternity from falling on him...

And the Rock in that instance looked no more than, say, football field sized. Dunno how big it is inside, but...

Hasn't the Rock Of Eternity been said that the weight is uncalcuable?

Originally posted by cloud102
Hasn't the Rock Of Eternity been said that the weight is uncalcuable?

Wouldn't surprise me. Uncalcuable weight in DC is like infinite power in Marvel. Go figure.

Originally posted by fangirl101
what strength feats does thanos have that put him above v and v despero in an arm wresling contect. I'm interested to know.

What strength feat does despero have

Originally posted by carver9
What strength feat does despero have

Most impressive thing IMO was slamming Superman and Captain Marvel's heads together like Thanos did to Thing and Hulk. Obviously the former duo is superior strength-wise.

Originally posted by Enyalus
All V & V Despero did strengthwise was keep the Rock of Eternity from falling on him...

And the Rock in that instance looked no more than, say, football field sized. Dunno how big it is inside, but... And what strength feats does thanos have? none. But Thanos knocks around The Thing and fixit hulk and he is uber strong. V and V Despero knocked around Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Power Girl, Hourman, Liberty Bell, etc. So exactly why is thanos stronger than V and V despero?

Originally posted by fangirl101
And what strength feats does thanos have? none. But Thanos knocks around The Thing and fixit hulk and he is uber strong. V and V Despero knocked around Superman, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Power Girl, Hourman, Liberty Bell, etc. So exactly why is thanos stronger than V and V despero?

In my opinion he still has the power up from Tyrant. At the end of the issue he's got the orb back in his lab hooked up to a bunch of machines, and he said he'd 'probe the spoils of my struggle' and 'attempt to learn its secrets.' He did far less than that with regard to the Force Block he used on WM Thor. And we know that became part of his standard tech because he uses it against Odin afterwards without the gun.

He's been upgraded once by Death and then upgraded himself several times (by his own admission.) That was one of those time.

Originally posted by Enyalus
In my opinion he still has the power up from Tyrant. At the end of the issue he's got the orb back in his lab hooked up to a bunch of machines, and he said he'd 'probe the spoils of my struggle' and 'attempt to learn its secrets.' He did far less than that with regard to the Force Block he used on WM Thor. And we know that became part of his standard tech because he uses it against Odin afterwards without the gun.

He's been upgraded once by Death and then upgraded himself several times (by his own admission.) That was one of those time. all of that means what? No feats to back up what you are saying is a power up. Now what FEATS does thanos have that makes you think he's stronger than Despero.

Originally posted by fangirl101
all of that means what? No feats to back up what you are saying is a power up. Now what FEATS does thanos have that makes you think he's stronger than Despero.

If I'm allowed my assumption, then Thanos can physically stalemate Tyrant. That puts him up there in the strength department.



I already brought up him thrashing Hulk & Thing together. He's also done so to Hulk & Drax, and Thor & Thing, off the top of my head. Then there's Surfer...

And no, I don't think those last feats aren't > WW, PG, Hourman, and CM.

Originally posted by fangirl101
all of that means what? No feats to back up what you are saying is a power up. Now what FEATS does thanos have that makes you think he's stronger than Despero.

Him locking arms with tyrant a being that is stronger than anyone that you named. Thats why its bad to use who people fought because if thats the case slade=superman/wonder woman since he did fight people in there strength class and actually defeated them.

Thanos beat Hercules, Thor, Hulk and the Thing at the same time with ease.

He probably wins everything except arm wrestling though even that he may win in.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Thanos beat Hercules, Thor, Hulk and the Thing at the same time with ease.

He probably wins everything except arm wrestling though even that he may win in.

3 of whom are a joke compared to the guys Despero fought.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
3 of whom are a joke compared to the guys Despero fought.
This was pre-upgrade Thanos BTW. I think Drax might have been there as well but I could be wrong about that.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
3 of whom are a joke compared to the guys Despero fought.

Hulk is stronger than anyone that despero fought

Originally posted by King Kandy
This was pre-upgrade Thanos BTW. I think Drax might have been there as well but I could be wrong about that.

Not at the same time.

Also, most people there except Thor can be one-shotted be either P-U Thanos and Despero.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Also, most people there except Thor can be one-shotted be either P-U Thanos and Despero.

Possibly. But V & V Despero was stunned by a tear gas arrow and had his teeth knocked out and was bleeding from one of Hawkman's swings. So, assuming Despero got in the first shot, yeah.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Possibly. But V & V Despero was stunned by a tear gas arrow and had his teeth knocked out and was bleeding from one of Hawkman's swings. So, assuming Despero got in the first shot, yeah.

lmfao.

You think Thanos could take Hawkman's mace to the face unaffected?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Possibly. But V & V Despero was stunned by a tear gas arrow and had his teeth knocked out and was bleeding from one of Hawkman's swings. So, assuming Despero got in the first shot, yeah. He was stunned by a tear gas arrow becuz he had taken over a human beings body. And let's not forget that Hawkman's mace is made of URU metal. Mkay. Thanks.

Originally posted by fangirl101
He was stunned by a tear gas arrow becuz he had taken over a human beings body. And let's not forget that Hawkman's mace is made of URU metal. Mkay. Thanks.

Uru is what Thor's hammer's made of...Nth metal is the mace, I thought.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lmfao.

You think Thanos could take Hawkman's mace to the face unaffected?

I think Thanos could take Thor's hammer's throw to the face unaffected, so yeah I think he'd be unaffected by Hawkman's mace.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Uru is what Thor's hammer's made of...Nth metal is the mace, I thought.



I think Thanos could take Thor's hammer's throw to the face unaffected, so yeah I think he'd be unaffected by Hawkman's mace.
No.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lmfao.

You think Thanos could take Hawkman's mace to the face unaffected? ...

V&V Despero was wrecking a team that consisted the best top-tier heroes in DC.

Put Thanos in his place and he would get omfgwtfpwned.

And as for this match, Despero wins all 5.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
And as for this match, Despero wins all 5.

No way in hell.

I almost agree with him

Originally posted by iceman24567
I almost agree with him

Despero doesn't have the durability to go H2H with Thanos. And Thanos is the more skilled and more intelligent fighter.

Thanos stalemating Despero in the TP area is being generous to Despero, too, considering he's overpowered Moondragon w/ Mind Gem and nearly overcame Galactus' psychic defenses.

The rest of the areas, I can see someone giving Despero the win in, although I personally wouldn't agree with it except in the one case I did - matter manipulation.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
3 of whom are a joke compared to the guys Despero fought. Herc has comparable strength to Thor nub

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think Thanos could take Thor's hammer's throw to the face unaffected, so yeah I think he'd be unaffected by Hawkman's mace.

Thanos face got busted when he took a hammer blow to the face. The mace has jagged edges and disruptive energy.

Originally posted by Allankles
Thanos face got busted when he took a hammer blow to the face. The mace has jagged edges and disruptive energy.

Thanos took Mjolnir blows backed by the Power Gem that did virtually nothing. Hawkman and his mace would be child's play.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Thanos took Mjolnir blows backed by the Power Gem that did virtually nothing. Hawkman and his mace would be child's play.

Most of the blows he took were not to the face. How many shots did he take to the mouth or face? The issue was that he'll feel the mace, especially when it's not just blunt force but point force as well.

Originally posted by Allankles
Most of the blows he took were not to the face. How many shots did he take to the mouth or face? The issue was that he'll feel the mace, especially when it's not just blunt force but point force as well.

Two shots without bleeding or staggering backwards, one where he was already bleeding, so I have no idea.

The point is Thanos would certainly not have lost teeth AND bled after one shot. Nor would he have been injured by one punch to the chest from Power Girl. Nor would he have been affected by tear gas.

V&V Despero would win against base Thanos.

Thanos would need some sort of power-up or upgrade to overcome the raw power of V&V Despero.

Also, V&V Despero arguably has stronger TP than Thanos (that is, if Thanos even has TP).

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Also, V&V Despero arguably has stronger TP than Thanos (that is, if Thanos even has TP).

Oh, yes, because V & V Despero did so much with his TP...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Two shots without bleeding or staggering backwards, one where he was already bleeding, so I have no idea.

The point is Thanos would certainly not have lost teeth AND bled after one shot. Nor would he have been injured by one punch to the chest from Power Girl. Nor would he have been affected by tear gas.

I agree, but your initial argument was he wouldn't be affected getting smashed across the mouth with a spiky, matter and energy disrupting weapon.

Originally posted by Allankles
I agree, but your initial argument was he wouldn't be affected getting smashed across the mouth with a spiky, matter and energy disrupting weapon.

He would be able to tank the blow without an issue. That's as clear and as far as I want to go with that point.

He can tank mace shots but if Hawkman swung it at his mouth, Thanos gets hurt imo.