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Black Bolt:
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vs.

Blue Marvel:
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neither wants to kill the other, takes place on the moon.

Given the circumstances, I'd probably go with Marvel.

if neither want to kill each other then it would be close...ill give the edge to BM tho

Blue Marvel

Even without using his voice BB still wins. He is physically on par with gladiator and has numerous other powers.

What are BM's best feats? I haven't really paid attention to him at all.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
What are BM's best feats? I haven't really paid attention to him at all.

Stopping an asteroid the size of Arkansas, taking a nuke point blank, lifting a US battleship out of the Pacific and carrying it back to land, beating Anti-Man solo (twice), being capable of splitting the moon in half with a punch (so says Uatu), and one-shotting Sentry into orbit....




I'd say BM wins at least 7/10.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Stopping an asteroid the size of Arkansas, taking a nuke point blank, lifting a US battleship out of the Pacific and carrying it back to land, beating Anti-Man solo (twice), being capable of splitting the moon in half with a punch (so says Uatu), and one-shotting Sentry into orbit....




I'd say BM wins at least 7/10. Meh.

That's impressive, but really nothing that Black Bolt's immense versatility doesn't overcome.

All out? Sure.

Holding back so they don't kill each other? ...Meh.

Even out his voice Black Bolt wins this fight.

Originally posted by Enyalus
All out? Sure.

Holding back so they don't kill each other? ...Meh. Wait, what?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Wait, what?

If everyone's going all out, then yeah, Black Bolt wins. Matter manipulation, voice, etc. But they aren't trying to kill each other here. I think that cuts down on the options. And physically BM > Black Bolt.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If everyone's going all out, then yeah, Black Bolt wins. Matter manipulation, voice, etc. But they aren't trying to kill each other here. I think that cuts down on the options. And physically BM > Black Bolt. Black Bolt can use his voice in extreme moderation. He doesn't need to scream.

Matter manip can still be used to cause huge explosions, make anti-matter, make shields and constructs... there's still no reason that Black Bolt needs to use his fists.

Originally posted by Enyalus
physically BM > Black Bolt.

That's highly debatable. Black Bolt has gone toe to toe with the Hulk and has been called his close second in strength, shrugged of Ikaris if I remember right etc. While pissed of he has manhandled Gladiator and so on.

From what I read, that's all at his base, and he can amp his stats rather high and has physical weapons such as the Master Blow.

Blue Marvel being superior is highly questionable and in my opinion, in the end, with his abilities, Black Bolt can be the superior physically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That's highly debatable. Black Bolt has gone toe to toe with the Hulk and has been called his close second in strength, shrugged of Ikaris if I remember right etc. While pissed of he has manhandled Gladiator and so on.

From what I read, that's all at his base, and he can amp his stats rather high and has physical weapons such as the Master Blow.

Blue Marvel being superior is highly questionable and in my opinion, in the end, with his abilities, Black Bolt can be the superior physically.

Where were you for the BB vs. Supes and BB vs. WW threads? Bump those. Tell them that.

Thanks.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Where were you for the BB vs. Supes and BB vs. WW threads? Bump those. Tell them that.

Thanks.



I was on the Wonder Woman vs. Black Bolt thread debating for Black Bolt for like 10 pages. I never recall debating on the Superman vs. Black Bolt thread.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I was on the Wonder Woman vs. Black Bolt thread debating for Black Bolt for like 10 pages. I never recall debating on the Superman vs. Black Bolt thread.

Ah. I picked BB for both and remember being in the minority. lol

Oh, lol.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Meh.

That's impressive, but really nothing that Black Bolt's immense versatility doesn't overcome.

Im pretty sure Blue Marvel could deliver a killer blow before Black Bolts sonic based attacks could be initiated. Black Bolts durability isnt that great, neither is he a top tier powerhouse. From the speed and strength Blue Marvels displayed, i'd say he definitely takes it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im pretty sure Blue Marvel could deliver a killer blow before Black Bolts sonic based attacks could be initiated. Black Bolts durability isnt that great, neither is he a top tier powerhouse. From the speed and strength Blue Marvels displayed, i'd say he definitely takes it.

You are underestimating Black Bolt.

This guy has taken attacks from Ikaris, a blood lusted Gladiator, an enraged Hulk to the face and didn't even stagger. This is all at his base.

How the hell is his durability not great?

Blue Marvel delivering the killer blow now seems highly unlikely in my opinion. Black Bolt can take whatever he can dish and keep on coming.

Throw in his ability to increase his stats, and he is as powerful as they come physically. He is superior in my opinion.

You are underestimating Black Bolt.

Blue Marvel's speed isn't going to do much good as Black Bolt has the ability to create Force Fields, has vast telepathic powers etc. He is also extremely fast.

Black Bolt

what are the blue Marvels speed feats? Cuz blackbolt has superspeed as well and i want to know why people think BM is faster. The gap between them physically isnt all that much anyways. BM did knock sentry into orbit, but also got koed by him as well. So he isnt physically beyond blackbolts level. Blackbolt has physically matched up well with hulk and gladiator (who it can be argued are stronger than sentry). 4's no slouch in that department. Add in his other powers(electron blasts so powerful they that sent sphinx flying lightyears,electron manipulation,antimatter,molecular manip,forcefield etc.) and he should win this.

Black Bolt wins.

Originally posted by Naija boy
what are the blue Marvels speed feats? Cuz blackbolt has superspeed as well and i want to know why people think BM is faster. The gap between them physically isnt all that much anyways. BM did knock sentry into orbit, but also got koed by him as well. So he isnt physically beyond blackbolts level. Blackbolt has physically matched up well with hulk and gladiator (who it can be argued are stronger than sentry). 4's no slouch in that department. Add in his other powers(electron blasts so powerful they that sent sphinx flying lightyears,electron manipulation,antimatter,molecular manip,forcefield etc.) and he should win this.

Don't forget he did all those physical feats at his base if I recall. So he should have the physical advantage with his abilities to amp.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Don't forget he did all those physical feats at his base if I recall. So he should have the physical advantage with his abilities to amp.

True i cant remember any indication of amping. Then with things like the master blow( i remeber an issue where he took down ikaris with it when he didnt even properly execute it), physically he should probably have the advantage.

Originally posted by Naija boy
True i cant remember any indication of amping. Then with things like the master blow( i remeber an issue where he took down ikaris with it when he didnt even properly execute it), physically he should probably have the advantage. how powerful is the master blow?

Originally posted by Naija boy
True i cant remember any indication of amping. Then with things like the master blow( i remeber an issue where he took down ikaris with it when he didnt even properly execute it), physically he should probably have the advantage.

I remember that fight. In that same issue I believe he shrugged of Ikaris like he was a child.

Originally posted by Starscream M
how powerful is the master blow?

Powerful enough to take down Ikaris the eternal (very durable mid herald level character) without even properly connecting.

I think BB would win based on power shown, but i do think BM holds the edge physically.
He 1-punch koed Sentry into orbit, and was only dropped when Sentry divebombed him from behind from space while BM was facing the other avengers.

BB has shown more power, but i don't think the Master blow is gonna be of much help here. Its more his exotic powers that get him the win here.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I think BB would win based on power shown, but i do think BM holds the edge physically.
He 1-punch koed Sentry into orbit, and was only dropped when Sentry divebombed him from behind from space while BM was facing the other avengers.

BB has shown more power, but i don't think the Master blow is gonna be of much help here. Its more his exotic powers that get him the win here.

Using Sentry as a feat isn't that great in my opinion as his power varies greatly with his mental stability.

Either way, Black Bolt has manhandled Gladiator, shrugged of Ikaris, took blows form Hulk without even staggering etc.

Physically at his base he rivals Blue Marvel. With his ability to amp, he should be superior in my opinion.

Alright, but Ikaris isn't in the same league as Hulk or Gladiator physically. Just wanted to clarify that.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Alright, but Ikaris isn't in the same league as Hulk or Gladiator physically. Just wanted to clarify that.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Im pretty sure Blue Marvel could deliver a killer blow before Black Bolts sonic based attacks could be initiated. Black Bolts durability isnt that great, neither is he a top tier powerhouse. From the speed and strength Blue Marvels displayed, i'd say he definitely takes it. They're not out to kill each other, so, without knowing the exact extent of Black Bolt's durability, it's highly unlikely that Blue Marvel's gonna speedblitz off the bat with a ZOMG punch.

Not to mention, Black Bolt also has some measure of super speed, and is capable of making electron shields and so on. He'd have to be faster than Black Bolt's speed of thought.

Originally posted by Naija boy
True i cant remember any indication of amping. Then with things like the master blow( i remeber an issue where he took down ikaris with it when he didnt even properly execute it), physically he should probably have the advantage.
his fights with gladiator where they went punch for punch he was amped. same with his fight with thor. he doesnt take anytime to amp the antenna on his head draws in the electrons and he does it practically instantly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Using Sentry as a feat isn't that great in my opinion as his power varies greatly with his mental stability.

Either way, Black Bolt has manhandled Gladiator, shrugged of Ikaris, took blows form Hulk without even staggering etc.

Physically at his base he rivals Blue Marvel. With his ability to amp, he should be superior in my opinion. sentry was mentally stable, the writer was basically showing bluemarvel=sentry in terms of strength (the same for hulk and thor)

not positive on this, but couldnt Blue Marvel disperse Black Bolts energy similar to what he did against Anti-Man?

Originally posted by jalek moye
his fights with gladiator where they went punch for punch he was amped. same with his fight with thor. he doesnt take anytime to amp the antenna on his head draws in the electrons and he does it practically instantly.

Was the amping ever mentioned though?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Black Bolt can use his voice in extreme moderation. He doesn't need to scream.

Matter manip can still be used to cause huge explosions, make anti-matter, make shields and constructs... there's still no reason that Black Bolt needs to use his fists.

BM is a stable anti matter reactor.
He's able to manipulate energy to an unspecified degree.
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He also soloed an entire invading Alien Armada

I doubt that in a physical contest BB can put the Sentry into orbit with one punch (excluding the Master blow).

On top of being Sentry Strong, he's also brilliant in the fields of Theoretical physics and Electrical engineering (using the Avengers to create a crude Cyclotron in the field).

As per his durability, A Hydrogen bomb blew up in his hands, and it took the combined efforts of the Avengers and Sentry dive bombing from space to knock him unconscious.

Correction, it took Sentry Dive Bombing from orbit while Adam shook off the MA to knock him unconscious (MA were getting the snot beat out of 'em).

All this while he was just trying to get his point across, but not kill anybody.

I say BM 6/10

LOL at Rage.

Black bolt is underrated and he's a BEAST.

Blue marvel is also a beast.

Black bolt wins this 8/10 to versatile and he's a better physical fighter and is blue marvels equal physically.

Prove it.

You said it so it can most likely be ignored anyway.

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I'm not so sure BM was even ko'ed by Bob. More like he just passed out from exhuastion. Unless people are arguing a tko via delayed touch lol.

BB wins.He can still whisper.Also uber strength,reflex's,speed,matter manip,and mindrape will lead him to victory.

Black Bolt wins. Blue Marvel is almost featless.

Nice fight. If BB won't scream I see Marvel winning.

he should be in an avengers team by the way

Black Bolt!