Is LSD really that bad

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allofyousuckkk
I say if you can't overdose on it, legalize it.

Bicnarok
Never tried it.

But if they give infants Ritalin which is also a brain changing drug, to keep them calm. They LCD should be allowed too.,

Red Nemesis
False.

Doesn't LSD have a high chance of flashbacks? (It is stored in body fat or some such.)

It causes problems. (Blanket statement w/o statistics ftw!)

Bicnarok

Robtard
LSD seems to have one more side effect, ha, you fail.

Symmetric Chaos
LSD certainly isn't physically bad for you.

Robtard
False, I know of a guy who jumped off a decent height while on LSD and physically harmed himself.

inimalist
no, LSD is not that bad

however, it affects people in interesting ways. Some people are able to handle it, some are not.

jinXed by JaNx
The two biggest problems with LSD are the reasons why it should stay illegal. The fact that LSD can severely alter a persons state of mind is extremely concerning. The affects of LSD are the same as a severe case of Psychosis.
The other major problem with LSD comes from the ingredients. The affects of LSD can be reproduced using many different types of extremely harmful ingredients. These ingredients are often used because it's easier, cheaper and quicker to make. So, unless you know where you're getting your trip from and are properly educated on LSD, you could be buying anything. When i was sixteen and stupid. I used to make "LSD" with this cat using strick-9.

Personally, i defend LSD and most other psychedelics. I think most people should go on a trip at least once in their lives. If done properly and with the right people, one can have a very spiritual and opening experience. However, done improperly, psychedelics can be extremely dangerous. Out of all of the drugs that are illegal i completely understand why LSD is illegal. Now, something like shrooms, well thats a different story wink Shrooms are very mild and less harmful to the body than alcohol or fast food.

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I say if you can't overdose on it, legalize it.

Although I am very much for legalisation of all drugs, while you may not be able to overdose on LSD, some people may have severe trips which may result in long term brain damage.

My partner's father is a psychiatrist (now retired) he had a patient about 20 years ago, who came into the hospital due to severe brain damage because of LSD.
It's worth to note that he already had psychopatic episodes and other mental problems, so it wasn't randomly induced brain damage.

There was an experiment carried out, some years back involving LSD and schizophrenia.
Patients were given dose of LSD to take, as LSD opens up brain function where it was previously shut.

The results were as follows - close to 90% of participants were showing signs of recovery from schizophrenia, because LSD has promped parts of brain to work, which schizophrenics are normaly unable to use.
There was little over 10% of people which had gone even worse.

Because of those 10%, LSD stayed illegal drug. Although it was very close to becoming a legal medicinal drug.

Genesis
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Although I am very much for legalisation of all drugs

How come?

Robtard
Originally posted by Genesis
How come?

Better, question, why are some drugs legal and others restricted?

Why can you drink until you kill yourself(or others), but you can't smoke marijuana(some cases withstanding) or snort a line of cocaine?

leonheartmm
lsd was labelled by many as the most useful anti psychotic drug of its time. many psychiatrists still beleive that{id say most educated and non biased ones still do} but are too scared to promote it because of the reaction from the public and the government. however, it shudnt be legalised in non controlled settings where one has to drive/control others/ do a job/is around children or threats to themselves}

leonheartmm
btw has any1 tried a coctail of lsd and dmt? or lsd and injected heroin/oxycontin orrrrr dmt and lsd orrrrrrrrrrrr dmt/oxycontin/injected heroin/ecstacy????

Mindship
Depends...

...on the person (personality, issues, mood, etc).
...on the situation (eg, familiar/unfamiliar, calm/intense).
...quality and dosage of the drug.

So, eg, worst case scenario: an insecure person takes too much of it in an unfamiliar situation. Very bad.

Back in the day, I never had a problem with it, other than sometimes the duration of the trip was more of a committment than I wanted to make.

Bicnarok

lil bitchiness
And we've all seen how far Prohibition have gotten America. It bore, amongst other things, an immense underground black market, bad alcohol and of course, Al Capone.

Tax all drugs, ensure clean supply, and use the funds from drug taxation to develop cures to devastating diseases.

''War on drugs'' has evidently failed before it even begun. Clinton is a moron.

Deja~vu
My Ex did LSD all the time in college and he sure turned out to be trip!! messed

lord xyz
LSD is pretty safe.

Also, use the official drugs forum. Dick.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by lord xyz
LSD is pretty safe.

Also, use the official drugs forum. Dick.

There's a drug forum? confused

Mairuzu
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There's a drug forum? confused thread

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Mairuzu
thread

Cool. I thought I was hallucinating. wink

Mairuzu
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Cool. I thought I was hallucinating. wink haermm

leonheartmm
ive heard handjobs can have hallucinogenic effects.

Robtard
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
''War on drugs'' has evidently failed before it even begun. Clinton is a moron.

Clinton didn't start the "War on Drugs", Nixon did, so there's a list of morons.

inimalist
Originally posted by Robtard
Clinton didn't start the "War on Drugs", Nixon did, so there's a list of morons.

Obama has said he is interested in intensifying the war on drugs in mexico with "coloumbia" style tactics and forced home entries (invasions)

Robtard
Originally posted by inimalist
Obama has said he is interested in intensifying the war on drugs in mexico with "coloumbia" style tactics and forced home entries (invasions)

Ha, seems all the ranting paranoid conservative republicans I sometimes chat with on another board where right. Obama = evil-socialist-scum-who-knows-no-ends-to-his-powers.

leonheartmm
only, socialism isnt evil.

Robtard
But one could be both a socialist and evil.

leonheartmm
i suppose, if one can be the whore to their own pimp at the same time, why not.

Robtard
That would be an independent prostitute, they exist.

leonheartmm
like ron paul?

Deja~vu
Only addictive drugs cause problems, IMO, otherwise LSD is only a trip...I don't believe it is addicting because who in gods sake would want to be in that state all the time!! It just isn't reality..blink

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Only addictive drugs cause problems, IMO, otherwise LSD is only a trip...I don't believe it is addicting because who in gods sake would want to be in that state all the time!! It just isn't reality..blink

confused But you get to talk with god.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Only addictive drugs cause problems, IMO, otherwise LSD is only a trip...I don't believe it is addicting because who in gods sake would want to be in that state all the time!! It just isn't reality..blink

Yeah, it's awfully hard to imagine an LSD user that wants to get away from reality.

inimalist
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Only addictive drugs cause problems, IMO, otherwise LSD is only a trip...I don't believe it is addicting because who in gods sake would want to be in that state all the time!! It just isn't reality..blink

addiction is a symptom of an individual, not a property of a substance

RedAlertv2
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Only addictive drugs cause problems, IMO, otherwise LSD is only a trip...I don't believe it is addicting because who in gods sake would want to be in that state all the time!! It just isn't reality..blink You're right its one of the more non-addictive drugs, but people can still be come addicted to non-addictive substances.

LSD is relatively safe, the most important concern is the possibility of a bad trip. Which can usually be avoided by taking certain precautions, but nonetheless they do happen

lord xyz
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There's a drug forum? confused Thread.



I need my coffee.

Deja~vu
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yeah, it's awfully hard to imagine an LSD user that wants to get away from reality. Not that kind of reality A LSD one NEVER!! eek!

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Not that kind of reality A LSD one NEVER!! eek!

What?

Deja~vu
To constantly be on LSD.

Doom and Gloom
Originally posted by leonheartmm
only, socialism isnt evil.

You're right, it isn't evil, it just doesn't work.

As for Legalizing LSD..I don't know, we should at least decriminalize it.

leonheartmm
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
You're right, it isn't evil, it just doesn't work.

As for Legalizing LSD..I don't know, we should at least decriminalize it.

actually it works quite fine in a major part of the tribal population of the world, and has so, even better, in societies of the past {e.g. liberal socialism in akbar era subcontinent}. your referring to the generally perceived instances like russia/china, in which case it was a non liberal type of socialism, but more importantly, it was factors OTHER than socialism which were responsible for the misgivings. capitalism doesnt work though, in the long term, without stealing stuff from the world and misery inside the state.

Doom and Gloom
Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually it works quite fine in a major part of the tribal population of the world, and has so, even better, in societies of the past {e.g. liberal socialism in akbar era subcontinent}. your referring to the generally perceived instances like russia/china, in which case it was a non liberal type of socialism, but more importantly, it was factors OTHER than socialism which were responsible for the misgivings. capitalism doesnt work though, in the long term, without stealing stuff from the world and misery inside the state.

Socialism only works in small, very limited societies, never in large complex ones.

Without incentive what's the point of trying to improve oneself?

I agree though that capitalism has to have it's limits. It works fine if people, institutions, and government aren't allowed to go into debt far beyond their means which is what we have now.

Toku King
Originally posted by allofyousuckkk
I say if you can't overdose on it, legalize it.

No.

leonheartmm
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Socialism only works in small, very limited societies, never in large complex ones.

Without incentive what's the point of trying to improve oneself?

I agree though that capitalism has to have it's limits. It works fine if people, institutions, and government aren't allowed to go into debt far beyond their means which is what we have now.

you give people the right of private ownership but dont give them the right to TRADE any private property. as such, all that you own, has to be EARNED through equal labour and not just gotten as a result of profits from trading which do nothing to add to the value of the thing and you get money without doing the work, liberal socialism.

The MadParty
LSD can change your mind, literally it can develop you into a new person, sometimes better,sometimes worse. i would suggest anyone who has not taken it to do so and find out for themselves,personally i like it and i support its use.

LDHZenkai
LSD can also make you do stupid things like try to climb out of a moving car because you think it's a pop can getting smashed by a giant (i freaked out). On the other hand i will say it's my favorite drug. But i can see why it's illegal. Of course i think alcohol is just as worse. People don't usually try to drive on acid, they do when shit faced drunk.

Doom and Gloom
Originally posted by leonheartmm
you give people the right of private ownership but dont give them the right to TRADE any private property. as such, all that you own, has to be EARNED through equal labour and not just gotten as a result of profits from trading which do nothing to add to the value of the thing and you get money without doing the work, liberal socialism.


Good luck ever getting that to work. Greed is human nature.

Deja~vu
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
LSD can also make you do stupid things like try to climb out of a moving car because you think it's a pop can getting smashed by a giant (i freaked out). laughing out loud Yep

Or your radio is giving you instructions/warnings about the carpet. It's truly a warning not to get off the couch because you will forever parish!! laughing out loud

LDHZenkai
Originally posted by Deja~vu
laughing out loud Yep

Or your radio is giving you instructions/warnings about the carpet. It's truly a warning not to get off the couch because you will forever parish!! laughing out loud
lol i sat with my face against the couch one time for too long and thought i was in a desert because it was the color of sand. I went on a wild adventure for about an hour or two before realizing i was on a couch and trying to forcefully talk myself into believing that.

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by Deja~vu
My Ex did LSD all the time in college and he sure turned out to be trip!! messed




sad


laughing

Deja~vu
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
lol i sat with my face against the couch one time for too long and thought i was in a desert because it was the color of sand. I went on a wild adventure for about an hour or two before realizing i was on a couch and trying to forcefully talk myself into believing that. It's funny stuff as long as you are in good company, otherwise it could lbe ike hell. Makes one paranoid too.

At one time i was able to make my legs dissapear but then I got scared so I undid that cause How would i try to explain that to everyone..Like yeah, my legs are gone cause I was watching SNL and just forgot to put them back on...Heck I couldn't feel them.. messed

Deja~vu
I'm the odd type. I only try things once or twice just to see what it is like. I feel you cannot comment on things if you don't know what you are really talking about. I don't become addicted to things...Jusst like to try them here and there....No addiction there. clap

But it helps me Understand others. When thing feel just to good then it's time to walk away. Just my opinion.

LDHZenkai
Originally posted by Deja~vu
I'm the odd type. I only try things once or twice just to see what it is like. I feel you cannot comment on things if you don't know what you are really talking about. I don't become addicted to things...Jusst like to try them here and there....No addiction there. clap

But it helps me Understand others. When thing feel just to good then it's time to walk away. Just my opinion.
completely agree. i haven't done anything in over a year. im all super healthy now smile

leonheartmm
Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Good luck ever getting that to work. Greed is human nature.

so is compassion/ampahty. if we encouraged that half as much as we encourage greed, this world wud be a lot better.

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