Originally posted by Doctor-AlvisWouldn't someone destroying the universe destroy Cytorrak, or at least his connection to the power?
Are you clowns serious? Juggernaut can die. How many times has someone remade the universe? Juggernaut died in all those. Juggernaut can die in every meaning of the world. Just because he hasn't yet that doesn't mean he can't.
Originally posted by Mindset
Wouldn't someone destroying the universe destroy Cytorrak, or at least his connection to the power?
If you go the power stripping route Juggernaut can be killed. If it's argued that a completely stripped down Cain Marko without the crimson power is not Juggernaut then Juggernaut is still dead because the next person to hold the Juggernaut mantle would be a new Juggernaut.
You could destroy his mental patterns. If he is sustained by magic, which it's unknown if he would be or not, then the magic would have to be nullified as well. Both would likely have to be used, so the D'Spayre skeleton incident is peanuts.
Most of this is pretty arguable but the fact still remains that it occupies the same limbo as whether or not Juggernaut can die. Because none of it has been attempted it cannot be said for sure that it would go either way.
Originally posted by Mindset
Cain is not Juggernaut.Cain + Cytorrak enchantment = Juggernaut.
Killing a powerless Cain is not killing Juggernaut, anyway, most people were talking about Sorrow not killing Juggs with his gaze, in which case nothing you said even matters.
Also, two people said Juggernaut can't die with no reference to the battle. Simply that it can't be done.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Are you clowns serious? Juggernaut can die. How many times has someone remade the universe? Juggernaut died in all those. Juggernaut can die in every meaning of the world. Just because he hasn't yet that doesn't mean he can't.
Seriously, do you seek out every Juggernaut thread just to come in, and tell everyone they're wrong about the character? You've already proven yourself clueless when it comes to the character. Why not take up a different hobby?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Seriously, do you seek out every Juggernaut thread just to come in, and tell everyone they're wrong about the character? You've already proven yourself clueless when it comes to the character. Why not take up a different hobby?
And seriously now, can you blame me for the things I call Juggernaut fans on? Can't die? There's nothing supporting it when you look at the greater context. One of Juggernaut's greatest feat of survivability is overshadowed by the fact that in the Marvel universe people perform the same or greater feats as either part of their normal operation or as part of their "costume". Easiest call ever.
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I like to pick the hobby that requires the least amount of effort for the greatest amount of entertainment. And there are so many Juggernaut and Cyttorak threads nowadays.And seriously now, can you blame me for the things I call Juggernaut fans on? Can't die? There's nothing supporting it when you look at the greater context. One of Juggernaut's greatest feat of survivability is overshadowed by the fact that in the Marvel universe people perform the same or greater feats as either part of their normal operation or as part of their "costume". Easiest call ever.
Except you take the most ridiculous position. First you claim Trion Juggernaut wasn't all Cyttoraks power when it says it was on panel, then in the "Is Juggernaut truly physically indestructible?" debate we had your logic was "Well, if the LT can hurt Juggernaut physically; he's not truly physically indestructible". Now, your logic in this thread is that because Juggernaut can't survive the destruction of the universe, he can die.
Give us some credit, seriously. We're talking by reasonable means. Juggernaut isn't a abstract entity, or the Beyonder. There are powers out there that can effect him in some capacity.
Johnny Sorrow can't.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Except you take the most ridiculous position. First you claim Trion Juggernaut wasn't all Cyttoraks power when it says it was on panel, then in the "Is Juggernaut truly physically indestructible?" debate we had your logic was "Well, if the LT can hurt Juggernaut physically; he's not truly physically indestructible". Now, your logic in this thread is that because Juggernaut can't survive the destruction of the universe, he can die.Give us some credit, seriously. We're talking by reasonable means. Juggernaut isn't a abstract entity, or the Beyonder. There are powers out there that can effect him in some capacity.
Johnny Sorrow can't.
Also, poor word use gets on my nerves. It's a wonder I use the internet at all!