Phoenix Force vs Dr.Manhattan

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demonslayer03
Phoenix force abilities are Future Life-Force Tap: The Phoenix Force can tap into the energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. The Phoenix Force possesses limitless cosmic energy. With or without a host, it is one of the most powerful entities in the Marvel Universe.

* Concussive Force Blasts: It can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force.

* Quantum Singularity: It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole. It then reforms itself upon reaching its destination.

* Energy Absorption: It can directly absorb energy such as Cyclops' optic blasts or the entire energy of a sun.

* Force of Life: The Phoenix Force can control life and death itself.

* Psionic Nexus: As it is the nexus of all psionic energy, it has powerful mental abilities, including telepathy and telekinesis, and often seeks out hosts who have psionic abilities. When bonded with a host, the Phoenix Force amplifies their abilities to incalculable levels.

* Matter Transmutation: It can manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level (e.g., turning wood to gold, stone to crystal, etc).

* Teleportation: It can teleport others across vast distances.

* Resurrection Force. Dr.Manhattan's powers are
Power over time and space,
Regeneration,
Energy and matter manipulation,
Flight,
Immortality,
Superhuman strength, speed and durability,
Intangibility,
Precognition,
Teleportation,
Self-duplication,
Superhuman growth

Harbinger
We really need a moratorium on Doc Manhattan threads.

guy222
PF

celestialdemon
Phoenix Force is way beyond Dr. Manhattan's level.

jalek moye
Originally posted by demonslayer03

Superhuman strength, speed and durability,

when the hell did he show any of that in the graphic novel

demonslayer03
Originally posted by jalek moye
when the hell did he show any of that in the graphic novel when your the size of a building i am pretty sure you will be super strong. he went saw every nook and cranny of mars and walked on the sun in a day. he got blown up twice and brought himself together he got a glass vase thrown at him and it just went threw but that is not durability but walking on the sun is.

jalek moye
Originally posted by demonslayer03
when your the size of a building i am pretty sure you will be super strong. he went saw every nook and cranny of mars and walked on the sun in a day. he got blown up twice and brought himself together he got a glass vase thrown at him and it just went threw but that is not durability but walking on the sun is.
getting blown up isnt durabilty either, its healing. When did he walk on the sun?

LDHZenkai
Originally posted by jalek moye
getting blown up isnt durabilty either, its healing. When did he walk on the sun?

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9592/shazam.jpg

I still say the PF wins. It's like where his powers came from.

supremthor
Originally posted by LDHZenkai
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/9592/shazam.jpg

I still say the PF wins. It's like where his powers came from. he sounds like superman

cloud102
The PF is the sum and substance of all that is.

Enyalus
Originally posted by supremthor
he sounds like superman

Superman only sounded that douchy during his PC days.

Knowsbleed33
PF easy peasy.

BruceSkywalker
PF too easy

Wild Shadow
PF ftw

Mr Master
Originally posted by cloud102

The PF is the sum and substance of all that is.
no expression ...

Not even close to being true.

But nevertheless, the PF should win here,
unless the ol Doc can produce a planetary EMP,
in which case he could easily win.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mr Master
no expression ...

Not even close to being true.

But nevertheless, the PF should win here,
unless the ol Doc can produce a planetary EMP,
in which case he could easily win.

But...the matter! Doc controls it! And, and, he can make things explode! And, make like, the copies of himself!

Mindset
But can he make cookies?

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mindset
But can he make cookies?

Why would he do that? Then his father, the overbearing Cookie Monster, would disipline him by stripping his godlike powers and throwing him into a mortal shell as punishment.

They're both blue. You see the relation now?

Mekrob
Haven't read Watchmen in a while, but did he have a blue cock in the comics?

Mindset
Come on Bran, we know, you know.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mekrob
Haven't read Watchmen in a while, but did he have a blue cock in the comics?

Yeah. And it was really tiny. Like, statue of David tiny. Really hard to take the dude seriously with that kinda deficiency.

Mekrob
scan

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mekrob
scan

I keep smurf porn on my other computer. Sorry. sad

Mekrob
I'm seriously curious curiously serious (Zomg), because I don't remember seeing it.

psycho gundam
a unit david's size on a smurph would be proportionately large.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mekrob
I'm seriously curious curiously serious (Zomg), because I don't remember seeing it.

When they first introduce the Doctor and Miss Jupiter, while they're working at the government facility. A few other labcoats end up visiting him. He's naked there.

Mekrob
K.

Guess I just didn't think anything of it, so I forgot.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Mekrob
K.

Guess I just didn't think anything of it, so I forgot.

I remember thinking, "WTF is this!?" when first reading it ...Other than that, I don't remember any specific times.

KingD19
Well, Phoenix can erase you from existence, so she wins. Plus Manhattan can't even begin to satisfy a woman/force of nature like that.

Knowsbleed33
Posted for Bran's gheyness:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/945/watchmen0410.th.jpg

Mekrob
You just got that scan saved on your computer?

His knees also look like deweys

Knowsbleed33
I have the arc on my computer.

Mekrob
Along with his penis saved to imageshack

Knowsbleed33
Now. I have boobs on there too.

Mekrob
Hopefully real ones... but who uses pics of porn now-a-days?

Knowsbleed33
It was for a forum poll on Herochat. They're not naked boobs.

Mekrob
Even better

Mr Master
Originally posted by KingD19

Well, Phoenix can erase you from existence, so she wins.
Phoenix has never directly erased anything from existence my good friend.

Phoenix amputated an alternate future via the extraction of Sublime,
so Sublime was the device there.

Phoenix nullified reality 15104 via the mind raping of Scott,
so Scott was the device there.

Scott made a decision that created that alternate future (15104)
in Here Comes Tomorrow,
just like it was Scott's decision that changed the HCT future.
(although grant it his second decision was manipulated by Jean)

But the power of creation/alteration of said future laid in Scott's mind.

guy222
HCT good tale

Phoenix wins here

LDHZenkai
Originally posted by Mekrob
Haven't read Watchmen in a while, but did he have a blue cock in the comics?
what's really odd is i didn't notice the blue penis in the movie. apparently everyone else did though.

leonidas
Originally posted by Mekrob
Haven't read Watchmen in a while, but did he have a blue cock in the comics?

doh

LordKaos
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix has never directly erased anything from existence my good friend.

Phoenix amputated an alternate future via the extraction of Sublime,
so Sublime was the device there.

Phoenix nullified reality 15104 via the mind raping of Scott,
so Scott was the device there.

Scott made a decision that created that alternate future (15104)
in Here Comes Tomorrow,
just like it was Scott's decision that changed the HCT future.
(although grant it his second decision was manipulated by Jean)

But the power of creation/alteration of said future laid in Scott's mind.

How can she not have done anything directly and then in the next line you say she amputated a timeline? Either she did or she didn't, and we all know she did.
Amputate means to remove something by cutting it off, if she amputated a timeline, then that means she removed it from the the timestream, when things are removed from the timestream they for all intents and purposes do not exist, 15104 was nullified when it was removed, it's point of divergence was the Scott thing. The universe was wounded by the amputation, 150 years of it was removed, Scotts new decision did not nullify 15104, because it was already seperated from the megasystem, Scotts decision grew a new future for 616 which makes that decision the point of divergence between the two.

guy222
PF takes it

frommd
Originally posted by guy222
PF takes it Agreed. Awesome sig Guy.

Mindset
Originally posted by LordKaos
How can she not have done anything directly and then in the next line you say she amputated a timeline? Either she did or she didn't, and we all know she did.
Amputate means to remove something by cutting it off, if she amputated a timeline, then that means she removed it from the the timestream, when things are removed from the timestream they for all intents and purposes do not exist, 15104 was nullified when it was removed, it's point of divergence was the Scott thing. The universe was wounded by the amputation, 150 years of it was removed, Scotts new decision did not nullify 15104, because it was already seperated from the megasystem, Scotts decision grew a new future for 616 which makes that decision the point of divergence between the two. You don't have any scans, you can't be right.

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