Guardian Amp SMP vs RKT
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D_Dude1210
Guardian Amped SMP
vs
Rune King Thor
Fight happens on an indestructible Earth-like planet.
No BFR.
Enyalus
Without BFR RKT loses...
...I can think of a more powerful version of Thor that would kick GA Prime's ass, though.
Slaanesh
SMP will kick this blind dude ass..
occultdestroyer
Originally posted by Enyalus
Without BFR RKT loses...
...I can think of a more powerful version of Thor that would kick GA Prime's ass, though.
Which one?
carver9
rkt wins. I know prime is almost immune to magic but this is magic on a different level.
Enyalus
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Which one?
Demothor...or uh, Thorgorge:
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_ThorAnnual14p21.jpg
shokosugi
SMP kicks his ass
xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
rkt wins. I know prime is almost immune to magic but this is magic on a different level.
It doesn't get much better then Mordru's magic.
Harbinger
Originally posted by xJLxKing
It doesn't get much better then Mordru's magic. Prime only took a single shot from Mordru, no?
carver9
Originally posted by xJLxKing
It doesn't get much better then Mordru's magic.
Yes it does, rkt is better.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Harbinger
Prime only took a single shot from Mordru, no?
A few actually, and he was shown to be highly resistant. He is stronger, faster, and more durable then RTK. He is also resistant to his power. the only way I see RTk winning is if he can use some crazy crazy attack which will be exploiting his weakness at the same time.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by carver9
Yes it does, rkt is better.
Proof?
Enyalus
Originally posted by xJLxKing
A few actually,
No, just one.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Enyalus
No, just one.
carver9
Originally posted by xJLxKing
A few actually, and he was shown to be highly resistant. He is stronger, faster, and more durable then RTK. He is also resistant to his power. the only way I see RTk winning is if he can use some crazy crazy attack which will be exploiting his weakness at the same time.
When was rkt injured and when did he have to pick up anything for you to think prime is stronger and more durable?
Harbinger
Originally posted by xJLxKing
A few actually, and he was shown to be highly resistant. He is stronger, faster, and more durable then RTK. He is also resistant to his power. the only way I see RTk winning is if he can use some crazy crazy attack which will be exploiting his weakness at the same time.
So we're on the same page, you're referring to this, right?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/838712/sbp3.jpg.html
IMO, as it doesn't even look like Mordru's going all out. At full power, Mordru's magic >>> RKT's, but RKT isn't going to go half-assed against Prime. I'm not sure Prime taking Mordru's attack is enough to automatically eliminate RKT's magic from harming him. I'm not sure who'd win this fight, but I do think Thor's magic could affect Prime. Would it be enough for a win? I'm not sure yet.
Enyalus
Originally posted by Harbinger
At full power, Mordru's magic >>> RKT's
I don't agree at all.
Slaanesh
u all can put RKT and Mordru together..Prime will still beat them..magic can't do shit to him..
Naija boy
The Odin force is mysti-cosmic power. So it shouldnt be totally ineffective against prime. Then given that RKT confirmed>>Odin and would thus be capable of an feat he could accomplish. Then mental/spiritual/time manipulation attacks could indeed be very good methods of offence.
id369
Superboy prime, is one hell of a tank. The boy laughed at Mordru magic.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8842/21305214.th.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8842/21305214.jpg
shokosugi
vs. Black Adam
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii228/Saturn695/scan0021-1.jpg
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii228/Saturn695/scan0022-1.jpg
Enyalus
Shokosugi, you're actually posting evidence???
I'm pleasantly shocked. I'd liken it to the feeling I had when I first found out that Chyna had made a porno.
Mindset
Enyanus, you make me proud to be an american
Enyalus
Originally posted by Mindset
Enyanus,
i c wut u did ther sly
shokosugi
Enyalus, i'm glad you're happy.
Enyalus
Originally posted by shokosugi
Enyalus, i'm glad you're happy.
Well I agree with you for once. With no BFR, SMP wins.
Mindset
RKT makes a red sun
Slaanesh
that won't work on GA Prime..
Mrblonde
RTK magic >>>>> Mordu and Black Adams
Mindset
Originally posted by Slaanesh
that won't work on GA Prime.. Why, because you say so?
iceman24567
Mordru's magic is above RKT
Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
Mordru's magic is above RKT
You keep saying that.
Don't.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Enyalus
You keep saying that.
Don't.
Yeah you should be saying it instead
Mindset
Why would Eny wanna be wrong too?
iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
Why would Eny wanna be wrong too? He's always wrong
occultdestroyer
Originally posted by Mindset
Why would Eny wanna be wrong too?
You're sexually attracted to Eny
Enyalus
Originally posted by iceman24567
He's always wrong
I don't like you anymore.
.....Unless you share your supply with me.
Slaanesh
Originally posted by Mindset
Why, because you say so?
no..i just want to disagree with what u say..that's all..
Mindset
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
You're sexually attracted to Eny Lol at you projecting your homosexual urges towards Eny on me.
iceman24567
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
You're sexually attracted to Eny Isn't it obvious
Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't like you anymore.
.....Unless you share your supply with me. Nah i need to make brownies
shokosugi
i can sense the sexual tension. i want some of it.
iceman24567
Originally posted by psycho gundam
D_Dude1210
Didn't Thor melt primary Adamantium with his eye beams? And that was at a lower power level than RKT? I really don't see SMP damaging primary adamantium...
Enyalus
Originally posted by shokosugi
i can sense the sexual tension. i want some of it.
This here's 13 1/2 inches, the most powerful piece of manmeat in the world, and it can blow your head clean off. Now, you must ask yourself one question: Do you feel lucky? Well do you, punk?
Enyalus
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Didn't Thor melt primary Adamantium with his eye beams? And that was at a lower power level than RKT? I really don't see SMP damaging primary adamantium...
Yeah. As King Thor his eyeblasts bent Wolverine's adamantium skeleton all to hell while vaporizing everything else of him.
shokosugi
SMP's heat vision drilled a hole through Supes torso.
Supes body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade-a adamantium
D_Dude1210
Originally posted by shokosugi
SMP's heat vision drilled a hole through Supes torso.
Supes body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade-a adamantium
No it's not.
Enyalus
Originally posted by shokosugi
SMP's heat vision drilled a hole through Supes torso.
Supes body >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade-a adamantium
So...what's that make Doomsday's bone spurs, then?
D_Dude1210
Well at least he didn't call Adamantium a B-level material or something.
shokosugi
you guys are in-denial. just admit it.
shokosugi
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Well at least he didn't call Adamantium a B-level material or something.
heh
Lord Feron
RKT with the slightest of gestures.
Avlon
Guardian amped prime spitestomps Thor.
D_Dude1210
How about someone post top feats by GA SMP here so we can compare it to RKT feats?
Warlord
Thor ftw...this incarnation was more powerful than Odin ever was. He was able to scare Celestial Gods who played with Odin an he could take Mangog's soul with a gesture. Normal Odinforce Thor was able to recreate planets at will. Rune King is even more powerful
shokosugi
Originally posted by Warlord
Thor ftw...this incarnation was more powerful than Odin ever was. He was able to scare Celestial Gods who played with Odin an he could take Mangog's soul with a gesture. Normal Odinforce Thor was able to recreate planets at will. Rune King is even more powerful
all useless against SMP.
occultdestroyer
If Mordru and Black Adam's magic don't work on SBP, RKT's won't work either
Nihilist
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
If Mordru and Black Adam's magic don't work on SBP, RKT's won't work either sorry, but that's horrible logic.
Adam only hit him with magic empowered lightining, and Mordu only hit him with a half arsed blast.
RKT had the rune spell's surrounding him,SMP has never faced any actual spell casting attack's.
Hell RKT erased Mangog from reality with ease,if it would work on SBP, who know's.
iceman24567
Mangog is a being made of magical energy no? I doubt Thor could do what he did to Prime.
Warlord
Thor doesn't have to use magic on him. He can just bust his stats. And if he is enough to decapitate the Destroyer I don't see SMP standing a better chance
iceman24567
Yeah because prime isn't durable at Guardian amp levels. Prime was the only being to hurt Monarch if he can hurt Monarch then Thor doesnt stand a chance. See how that logic
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah because prime isn't durable at Guardian amp levels. Prime was the only being to hurt Monarch if he can hurt Monarch then Thor doesnt stand a chance. See how that logic
Thor even before Rune Magic took out half the In Betweener and Genis Vell which in my opinion is > Monarch.
You cant say my logic fails. It's all opinion based. Your post and mine
iceman24567
Prime before the amp took on dozens of super heroes, dozens of green lantern and Ion while at low levels.
Mindset
Originally posted by iceman24567
Prime before the amp took on dozens of super heroes, dozens of green lantern and Ion while at low levels. All those together don't even equal Genis left nut
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
Prime before the amp took on dozens of super heroes, dozens of green lantern and Ion while at low levels.
My friend that doesn't mean much...
Ion was inexperienced and the other heroes were nothing compared to the Dark Celestial gods that couldn't stop Thor from ending Ragnarock. Notice that even before rune magic Thor had feats like recreating planets, transporting whole dimensions and even destroy "indestrructable" objects. Those people that took on Prime have nothing on him. I could say that OF Thor might have a hard time against Prime but Rune King is at Celestial level
Mindset
Originally posted by Warlord
but Rune King is at Celestial level No he's not
Warlord
Originally posted by Mindset
No he's not
OK not the classic celestials but those dark gods are considered to be celestial gods too so...
Naija boy
Originally posted by Nihilist
sorry, but that's horrible logic.
Adam only hit him with magic empowered lightining, and Mordu only hit him with a half arsed blast.
RKT had the rune spell's surrounding him,SMP has never faced any actual spell casting attack's.
Hell RKT erased Mangog from reality with ease,if it would work on SBP, who know's.
Then he also has other dangerous forms of attack like time manip/mental attacks which arent even direct application of magic to prime but will still be very deadly.
There is also still mjolnir and we know how devastating the mjolnir/energy combination can be (able to wreck a desaak empowered destroyer in one shot).
iceman24567
I concede consider RKT is Celestial level
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
I concede consider RKT is Celestial level
well what was suposed to be celestial gods couldn't stop him so een if he is not celestial leel he is clearly leagues above odin and that says a lot
iceman24567
Originally posted by Warlord
well what was suposed to be celestial gods couldn't stop him so een if he is not celestial leel he is clearly leagues above odin and that says a lot Wtf do you want from me i already conceded
Mindset
maybe he wants your love and affection
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
Wtf do you want from me i already conceded
I don't know what concede means....LOL
iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
maybe he wants your love and affection He can't have it because it's all yours well for the most part
Warlord
I'm jealous now...
no sympathy for the new guy?
Naija boy
Originally posted by Warlord
well what was suposed to be celestial gods couldn't stop him so een if he is not celestial leel he is clearly leagues above odin and that says a lot
He is clearly considerably above Odin but certainly not Celestial level.
xJLxKing
Magic won't work to well against SMP. In addition, he is faster so RKT will be assaulted by someone who is much stronger, faster, and durable. RKT CAN'T win in a close combat fight. He would need to keep his distance to he can try and use his magic. However, he magic won't be destroying Prime to much(high resistance)(Mordru's attack tickled him).
Maybe if RKT can BFR SMP then he can win. Without he very little chance.
Mindset
Originally posted by iceman24567
He can't have it because it's all yours well for the most part
homo
iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
homo So?
Naija boy
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Magic won't work to well against SMP. In addition, he is faster so RKT will be assaulted by someone who is much stronger, faster, and durable. RKT CAN'T win in a close combat fight. He would need to keep his distance to he can try and use his magic. However, he magic won't be destroying Prime to much(high resistance)(Mordru's attack tickled him).
Maybe if RKT can BFR SMP then he can win. Without he very little chance.
RKT can use mental attacks, time manipulation, straight up energy attacks(capable of wrecking the detroyer),etc. All of which dont involve casting spells on prime directly. RKT has no reason to go into a straight up phyical confrontation against prime. He also has extremely powerful forcefield and vortexes which he can use to protect himself( even as regular thor he contained a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe). He ha much more options to choose from than prime in regards to attack and defence. BFR is certainly not his only way of winning.
shokosugi
Originally posted by Naija boy
RKT can use mental attacks, time manipulation, straight up energy attacks(capable of wrecking the detroyer),etc. All of which dont involve casting spells on prime directly. RKT has no reason to go into a straight up phyical confrontation against prime. He also has extremely powerful forcefield and vortexes which he can use to protect himself( even as regular thor he contained a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe). He ha much more options to choose from than prime in regards to attack and defence. BFR is certainly not his only way of winning.
and prime is just going to stand there and do nothing?
RKT goes down crying like a little *****.
iceman24567
Originally posted by shokosugi
and prime is just going to stand there and do nothing?
RKT goes down crying like a little *****. Just like that huh?
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Naija boy
RKT can use mental attacks, time manipulation, straight up energy attacks(capable of wrecking the detroyer),etc. All of which dont involve casting spells on prime directly. RKT has no reason to go into a straight up phyical confrontation against prime. He also has extremely powerful forcefield and vortexes which he can use to protect himself( even as regular thor he contained a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe). He ha much more options to choose from than prime in regards to attack and defence. BFR is certainly not his only way of winning.
I think SMP is more durable then Destroyer. He was able to take a Universe Destroyer and only get KO'ed. I have a feeling that if the destroyer took a shot like that(point blank range), he would have been disintegrated.
SMP is also faster, and imo would attack and not just stand there. Prime is a physical character and will stick to that.
Mindset
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think SMP is more durable then Destroyer. He was able to take a Universe Destroyer and only get KO'ed. I have a feeling that if the destroyer took a shot like that(point blank range), he would have been disintegrated.
SMP is also faster, and imo would attack and not just stand there. Prime is a physical character and will stick to that. How many appearances of the Destroyer have you read, just wondering.
Naija boy
Originally posted by shokosugi
and prime is just going to stand there and do nothing?
RKT goes down crying like a little *****.
Huh? Meh.
Anyways let me put it in a way easier for u to understand
Thor= A-lister
Prime=B-lister
Therefore thor wins.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Naija boy
Huh? Meh.
Anyways let me put it in a way easier for u to understand
Thor= A-lister
Prime=B-lister
Therefore thor wins.
I see what you did there
Enyalus
I can't see how this is even being debated. I mean,
Odin = Omnipotent
RKT > Odin
Ergo: RKT > omnipotent.
And no one can logically beat that.
Warlord
actually Odin is stated to be nigh omnipotent but still that should do
Enyalus
Originally posted by Warlord
actually Odin is stated to be nigh omnipotent but still that should do
Actually Odin's title is literally 'the Omnipotent.'
shokosugi
Originally posted by Enyalus
I can't see how this is even being debated. I mean,
Odin = Omnipotent
RKT > Odin
Ergo: RKT > omnipotent.
And no one can logically beat that.
and since SMP > RKT.....
Warlord
Originally posted by Enyalus
Actually Odin's title is literally 'the Omnipotent.'
we both know that there is only one truly omnipotent being in MU
Enyalus
Originally posted by Warlord
we both know that there is only one truly omnipotent being in MU
Yes. Clearly, its Odin.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Warlord
we both know that there is only one truly omnipotent being in MU What we have come to realize here on KMC is their are different levels of omnipotence.
Mindset
And Doom is the highest level of omnipotent.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Mindset
And Doom is the highest level of omnipotent. Nah he's second next to Bobby Drake
Naija boy
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I think SMP is more durable then Destroyer. He was able to take a Universe Destroyer and only get KO'ed. I have a feeling that if the destroyer took a shot like that(point blank range), he would have been disintegrated.
SMP is also faster, and imo would attack and not just stand there. Prime is a physical character and will stick to that.
Prime was still gettin hurt by attacks less potent than that so its debatable. Gladiator was able to take a solar system destroying blast point blank but would still get hurt by less ranged and more concentrated blasts from guys like silver surfer and thor. Regardless the point isnt that thor will take out prime in one hit like the destroyer but rather that that instance shows he can indeed do alot of damage to prime with such attacks.
Also i never claimed that SMP would stand there while thor was attacking him. However he can do little to counter the time manip/mental attacks that thor can use. Then thor also has forcefields to protect himself against SMPs physical attacks
Naija boy
Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes. Clearly, its Odin.
Actually its Silver surfer
Warlord
I meant the one above all...
anyway aunt may comes as a close second
iceman24567
Originally posted by Warlord
I meant the one above all...
Whoz dat?
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
Whoz dat?
the God of Marvel Universe....
he is the one that created even the living tribunal.
also there's a celestial with the same name but there should be no misconception.
iceman24567
Originally posted by Warlord
the God of Marvel Universe....
he is the one that created even the living tribunal.
also there's a celestial with the same name but there should be no misconception. OMG no wai
Warlord
Originally posted by iceman24567
OMG no wai
there was a reference about him by Adam Warlock or Moondragon, can't remember....
He is the equivalent of DC's Presence
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Naija boy
Prime was still gettin hurt by attacks less potent than that so its debatable. Gladiator was able to take a solar system destroying blast point blank but would still get hurt by less ranged and more concentrated blasts from guys like silver surfer and thor. Regardless the point isnt that thor will take out prime in one hit like the destroyer but rather that that instance shows he can indeed do alot of damage to prime with such attacks.
Also i never claimed that SMP would stand there while thor was attacking him. However he can do little to counter the time manip/mental attacks that thor can use. Then thor also has forcefields to protect himself against SMPs physical attacks
I really don't want to go into the argument about time manipulation. I don't know much and I don't want to sound foolish(Yes I already am..). You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected. There reason why I said Prime won't stay there is that he can become intangible(if that's how you spell it). How strong are Thor's shield? Superman Prime can break through universes...etc. I think he can break it.(speculation)
Mindset
Originally posted by xJLxKing
You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected. It does?
Maybe not the way current PZ is portrayed.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Mindset
It does?
Maybe not the way current PZ is portrayed.
I remember Galan, or someone stating that it doesn't, but I haven't see it myself.
Mindset
It may stop in the sense that they don't age, by everyone can still move around freely, it's not like anyone is affected.
kgkg
Originally posted by xJLxKing
You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected
I already addressed this
Originally posted by kgkg
It wasn't the Pre-crisis version of the PZ . That arrow was fashioned by post-crisis Superman himself. Beside the original PF was different and you couldn't physically get out by punching.
not only could people move inside this PZ , but interact with people outside
we see this twice
#1) When Superboy prime is fighting the titans
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8131/22742463.th.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8677/74700512.th.jpg
This is impossible in the Pre-cris PZ
#2) again mon able to move inside the PZ
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4357/nottime.th.jpg
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9884/nottime2.th.jpg
as for you original statement
this longer applies
also it was a very good strength feat for prime rather than Time busting feat.
Now some me a scan of time stopping in PZ?
iceman24567
Lol at the famous retcon punch.
Naija boy
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I really don't want to go into the argument about time manipulation. I don't know much and I don't want to sound foolish(Yes I already am..). You have to remember time also stops at PZ but he wasn't affected. There reason why I said Prime won't stay there is that he can become intangible(if that's how you spell it). How strong are Thor's shield? Superman Prime can break through universes...etc. I think he can break it.(speculation)
Actually i think kgkg conclusively proved that it doesnt in another thread. People have been seen fully conscious communicating and even moving/floating around in the phantom zone. So that really has no bearing here.
Also regular thors vortex shield was abe to contain a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe. That was regular thor who is an insect compared to RKT. So im sure they will hold for a good period of time.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Naija boy
Actually i think kgkg conclusively proved that it doesnt in another thread. People have been seen fully conscious communicating and even moving/floating around in the phantom zone. So that really has no bearing here.
Also regular thors vortex shield was abe to contain a blast that would have destroyed 1/5th of the universe. That was regular thor who is an insect compared to RKT. So im sure they will hold for a good period of time. Did he even use it? I saw his feats but not the comic itself.
the fudge
what duz smp and rkt stand 4?
xJLxKing
Seriously there was no need.
Mindset
lol your reaction makes it funnier
Naija boy
Originally posted by Enyalus
Interesting sig.
Indeed.
xJLxKing
Originally posted by Mindset
lol your reaction makes it funnier
It doesn't make it any funnier and i hope whoever posted it, gets a penis inside their head,
Mindset
no, it makes it much more funny
the fudge
prime queefs all ova him
xJLxKing
And the chimpanzee is banned.
cloud102
Originally posted by Enyalus
You keep saying that.
Don't.
At his best Mordru bested Lord's or Order and Chaos. Pre-Crisis Mordru. Same Lord's of Order was giving Spectre a good fight. Not saying Mordru is better, though.
Mindset
Originally posted by cloud102
Pre-Crisis Mordru.
horrorwolf
RK Thor >>> Odin. And there is no way in hell Odin would be taken out by anyone down on Prime's level, even with a guardian amp.
zeel
the more i think about it mabey prime can win. It all depends on how well he can resist RKT's magic, i hear hes immune to highly, highly resistant to magic. If hes highly resistant to magic the id definetly say thor demolishes him. If hes immune to magic then in a nut shell.
Prime can defeat any magic user in comics due to the fact that hes immune to all magic and 95% of skyfathers are magic user's or mabey tech fiends. To make someone immune to magic is absolutly stupid.
D_Dude1210
Prime isn't immune to getting melted by a cosmic energy beam.
zeel
I do not know enough about prime, all i know is hes highly resistant to magic, RKT's magic is greater then odins, i just find it hard to believe that a flat out overpowerd brick like prime is beating a character greater then the mighty odin. Regaurdless this would be a excellent fight.
Slaanesh
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Prime isn't immune to getting melted by a cosmic energy beam.
Prime is immune to getting beat without PIS uhuh
Avlon
Originally posted by horrorwolf
RK Thor >>> Odin. And there is no way in hell Odin would be taken out by anyone down on Prime's level, even with a guardian amp.
What battle feat does RKT have over odin?
Nihilist
Originally posted by Avlon
What battle feat does RKT have over odin? Killing Mangog with ease and those who sit in the shadow.
D_Dude1210
Originally posted by Slaanesh
Prime is immune to getting beat without PIS uhuh
RKT is immune to the immunity of those who are immune to getting beat without PIS. uhuh
Naija boy
Originally posted by Avlon
What battle feat does RKT have over odin?
He appeared for only 3 issues or so, therefore he obviously doesnt have many battle feats Still he was abe to destroy the gods who sit in the shadow who were and wipe mangog from reality. it was also mentioned by the Odinforce itself that he had become superior to Odin anyways.
iceman24567
Prime takes the majority.
carver9
Originally posted by iceman24567
Prime takes the majority.
naah, not by a long shot.
iceman24567
Whatever makes you feel good. Prime for teh stompage
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