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RKT was unaffected by Mangog's attack, and Tyrant did beat some heralds. Such a tough decision.

Mmm....I think RKT takes this.

Double penetration always wins.

...Yeah.

RKT in a rout.

Rune King Thor wins.

Originally posted by Enyalus
...Yeah.

RKT in a rout.

All depends on Rk Thor and how his magic affects Tyrant. Tough to call.

Originally posted by quanchi112
All depends on Rk Thor and how his magic affects Tyrant. Tough to call.

Seems like nobody else had a hard time calling it.

RKT

Tyrant

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Seems like nobody else had a hard time calling it.

Doesn't mean they're right. Nobody gave a REASONED ARGUMENT why RKT would win.

I do think this is a tough call, I don't know

Very tough call and a hell of a fight. I dont think that tyrant could do what he did to the other heros to rkt and I cant see rkt doing what he did to mangog, etc... to tyrant.

5/5 split.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Seems like nobody else had a hard time calling it. Tyrant takes this.

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Doesn't mean they're right. Nobody gave a REASONED ARGUMENT why RKT would win.

I do think this is a tough call, I don't know

Only, Quanchi is generally wrong.

RKT appears in disassembled, and if people haven't read that then there's no reason to post here. Those who have read it, would naturally know why he wins.

I say split too,

It's common knowledge that RKT > Odin
Odin barely had the upperhand on Thanos
Tyrant beat the shit out of Thanos
RKT, who is more powerful that Odin, should beat the shit out of Thanos too.

It's ABC logic, I know

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I say split too,

It's common knowledge that RKT > Odin
Odin barely had the upperhand on Thanos
Tyrant beat the shit out of Thanos
RKT, who is more powerful that Odin, should beat the shit out of Thanos too.

It's ABC logic, I know

That abc logic was the same way that I was looking at it. Good post.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
I say split too,

It's common knowledge that RKT > Odin
Odin barely had the upperhand on Thanos
Tyrant beat the shit out of Thanos
RKT, who is more powerful that Odin, should beat the shit out of Thanos too.

It's ABC logic, I know

Beat the shit out of Thanos? lmfao.

If I'm not mistaken Tyrant was on the ground, in pain. He destroyed Thanos' clothing, and then Thanos left. Odin sent Thanos to the ground, where as Tyrant and Thanos stood equal.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Beat the shit out of Thanos? lmfao.

If I'm not mistaken Tyrant was on the ground, in pain. He destroyed Thanos' clothing, and then Thanos left. Odin sent Thanos to the ground, where as Tyrant and Thanos stood equal.

Nah. Tyrant was standing there upright without a scratch on him, and Thanos was the one crawling up from a hole in the ground shirtless. However, Thanos hurt him a few times in that fight and didn't harm Odin at all (then again, he wasn't amped against Odin.)

RKT scared Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, Surtur, beat down a weakened Mangog and an amped (to an unknown degree) Loki sporting a Mjolnir copy. Hm...didn't he also kill the Midgard Serpent? And was suggested to be more powerful than Odin.

So I say he takes it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Nah. Tyrant was standing there upright without a scratch on him, and Thanos was the one crawling up from a hole in the ground shirtless. However, Thanos hurt him a few times in that fight and didn't harm Odin at all (then again, he wasn't amped against Odin.)

RKT scared Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, Surtur, beat down a weakened Mangog and an amped (to an unknown degree) Loki sporting a Mjolnir copy. Hm...didn't he also kill the Midgard Serpent? And was suggested to be more powerful than Odin.

So I say he takes it.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~sprasher/images/4.jpg

I was referring to this.

And we have no idea what that supposed "powerup" did to Thanos against Tyrant, or if it was even a powerup.

There wasn't any "suggestion" to it, RKT WAS more powerful than Odin. That was what the scene with Mimir's well was about.

Rune King Tyrant!

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
http://webhome.idirect.com/~sprasher/images/4.jpg

I was referring to this.
Right. And the page after it, when the smoke clears, is the scene I was referring to.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
And we have no idea what that supposed "powerup" did to Thanos against Tyrant, or if it was even a powerup.
The powerup was Morg's Power Cosmic, which Tyrant had drained off previously.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
There wasn't any "suggestion" to it, RKT WAS more powerful than Odin. That was what the scene with Mimir's well was about.
Meh...it also said Odin had knowledge of the runes. And that Thor needed to do more, become more than Odin was, because Odin had already made those sacrifices.

Do the one who sit above all even have feat. They only sit.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh...it also said Odin had knowledge of the runes. And that Thor needed to do more, become more than Odin was, because Odin had already made those sacrifices.

You are mistaken.

Odin had the knowldge gained from dropping 1 eye, Thor went 1 up.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Beat the shit out of Thanos? lmfao.

If I'm not mistaken Tyrant was on the ground, in pain. He destroyed Thanos' clothing, and then Thanos left. Odin sent Thanos to the ground, where as Tyrant and Thanos stood equal.

Odin and Thanos were pretty even if I recall during their fight. Odin had the advantage only after getting out Gungnir because Odin wasn't even dealing any damages to Thanos. And even after Odin tried to put Thanos down, Thanos wanted more. Thanos was afraid to keep fighting Tyrant, knowing he would die if he continue.

Take out Gungnir, and Odin would have more than a fight against Thanos. Take out Morg's orb, Thanos would not have last that long against Tyrant.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Odin barely had the upperhand on Thanos The entire fight was Odin knocking Thanos around like a redneck's wife, Thanos did not so much as mildly discomfort Odin. Odin wrecked Thanos.

Originally posted by PowerCosmic
Odin and Thanos were pretty even if I recall during their fight. Odin had the advantage only after getting out Gungnir because Odin wasn't even dealing any damages to Thanos. And even after Odin tried to put Thanos down, Thanos wanted more. Thanos was afraid to keep fighting Tyrant, knowing he would die if he continue.

Take out Gungnir, and Odin would have more than a fight against Thanos. Take out Morg's orb, Thanos would not have last that long against Tyrant.

Actually odin did hurt Thanos before Gungir go chceck the post in the respect threads he hit him twice and hurt him he just had to use 2 hand on him instead of one.

They were not even close to be even Odin was in control and unharm the whole fight Thanos had trouble getting up and was lucking Warlock stopped the fight.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Do the one who sit above all even have feat. They only sit.

The only one on top of my head is that Odin thru the 1000's of years couldn't stop them and he knew they caused ragnarok and toying with him and his people forcing them in and endless cycle of death.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Actually odin did hurt Thanos before Gungir go chceck the post in the respect threads he hit him twice and hurt him he just had to use 2 hand on him instead of one.

They were not even close to be even Odin was in control and unharm the whole fight Thanos had trouble getting up and was lucking Warlock stopped the fight.

From what I remember, Odin did a blast to Thanos and swepted one of his attacks. That was it. Nothing special. Thanos blasted Odin twice, one with Silver Surfer that did no damage, and one by himself, which made Odin put his guard up. Even Odin respected Thanos by saying that its been long since he fought a worthy opponent, meaning this match wasn't going to be easy.

And Thanos had less trouble getting up to Odin than he did to Tyrant.

Originally posted by Enyalus

The powerup was Morg's Power Cosmic, which Tyrant had drained off previously.



Incorrect. Tyrant gave Morg his power back before he sent Morg into battle. So we don't know whose power was in the orb.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Incorrect. Tyrant gave Morg his power back before he sent Morg into battle. So we don't know whose power was in the orb. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6341/96658369.th.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9749/72595101.th.jpg

-Kg

Originally posted by PowerCosmic
From what I remember, Odin did a blast to Thanos and swepted one of his attacks. That was it. Nothing special. Thanos blasted Odin twice, one with Silver Surfer that did no damage, and one by himself, which made Odin put his guard up. Even Odin respected Thanos by saying that its been long since he fought a worthy opponent, meaning this match wasn't going to be easy.

And Thanos had less trouble getting up to Odin than he did to Tyrant.

Thats why i said go look at the respect thread.

Odin opened up with a blast with one hand to thanos and thanos stood there taking it.

Then surfer and Thanos blast odin and he didn't move.

Then Odin used 2 hands and knock thanos who's arms and one leg flying around. clearly showing it hurt him unless Thanso was dancing.

Then surfer comes and blast Odin and Odin gets made and one shots him. While odin back is turned thanos comes in to sucker punch odin which odin bloack with his hand. then Odin gives him and amped backed hand fist and rock thanos yet again. Then thanos blast odin who blocked this one with his arms then calls on gungir.

Originally posted by kgkg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6341/96658369.th.jpghttp://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9749/72595101.th.jpg

-Kg

I was going to post that, but ya beat me to it, KG.

He says, after nearly draining Morg to death, that he'd need to give him the Power Cosmic back in order to deal with the intruders. But he also adds that he'd be Tyrant's herald from now on. And since Galactus gives his heralds their own PC, perhaps Tyrant replaced Morg's own energies with Tyrant's PC.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Thats why i said go look at the respect thread.

Odin opened up with a blast with one hand to thanos and thanos stood there taking it.

Then surfer and Thanos blast odin and he didn't move.

Then Odin used 2 hands and knock thanos who's arms and one leg flying around. clearly showing it hurt him unless Thanso was dancing.

Then surfer comes and blast Odin and Odin gets made and one shots him. While odin back is turned thanos comes in to sucker punch odin which odin bloack with his hand. then Odin gives him and amped backed hand fist and rock thanos yet again. Then thanos blast odin who blocked this one with his arms then calls on gungir.
All of that is pretty much correct, except that when Odin blasted Thanos with two hands, it looked more like Thanos was knocked backwards rather than 'showing it hurt him.' And your last sentence...when Thanos blasted him with two hands, Odin blocked with two hands and looked to be on his heels.

*shrug*

Originally posted by Enyalus
All of that is pretty much correct, except that when Odin blasted Thanos with two hands, it looked more like Thanos was knocked backwards rather than 'showing it hurt him.' And your last sentence...when Thanos blasted him with two hands, Odin blocked with two hands and looked to be on his heels.

*shrug*

Yup you could be right on the knocked back part.

When odin blocked i thought in just squated to brase for the impact.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I was going to post that, but ya beat me to it, KG.

He says, after nearly draining Morg to death, that he'd need to give him the Power Cosmic back in order to deal with the intruders. But he also adds that he'd be Tyrant's herald from now on. And since Galactus gives his heralds their own PC, perhaps Tyrant replaced Morg's own energies with Tyrant's PC.

I don't have the comic with me, so I can't post it. However, I believe Tyrant's words were "I must reinvigorate you with your Power Cosmic." So I find it very hard to believe that Tyrant would give up any part of his personal power to anyone.

If someone already has the scan, I'd appreciate posting it.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I don't have the comic with me, so I can't post it. However, I believe Tyrant's words were "I must reinvigorate you with your Power Cosmic." So I find it very hard to believe that Tyrant would give up any part of his personal power to anyone.

If someone already has the scan, I'd appreciate posting it.

I got your back, homie. This is basically all of the sequence that matters, in order:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb1.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb2.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb3.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb4.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb5.jpg

So yes, he says exactly what you thought he said...however, you can see that Tyrant's computer system thinks that orb holds Morg's power in it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I got your back, homie. This is basically all of the sequence that matters, in order:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb1.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb2.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb3.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb4.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb5.jpg

So yes, he says exactly what you thought he said...however, you can see that Tyrant's computer system thinks that orb holds Morg's power in it.

I appreciate it, man. I agree that Tyrant's computer system still thinks he has Morg's power. It could also be that the computer directed Thanos to the orb that was holding his power but not anymore. It could also mean Tyrant programmed the computer to tell Thanos that since Tyrant is laughing at the end surrounded by other orbs. We don't know for sure.

However, I'm more inclined to believe what Tyrant said and what is shown than what the computer system told Thanos. My choice, but I can definitely understand if others choose the other option.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Only, Quanchi is generally wrong.

RKT appears in disassembled, and if people haven't read that then there's no reason to post here. Those who have read it, would naturally know why he wins. Originally posted by Kris Blaze
RKT was unaffected by Mangog's attack, and Tyrant did beat some heralds. Such a tough decision. You call me wrong when posting about him beating Mangog who was powerless. How is that impressive? Get your facts straight before bringing up my name, brah.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Beat the shit out of Thanos? lmfao.

If I'm not mistaken Tyrant was on the ground, in pain. He destroyed Thanos' clothing, and then Thanos left. Odin sent Thanos to the ground, where as Tyrant and Thanos stood equal. Tyrant showed superiority over Thanos. Odin did not.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
The entire fight was Odin knocking Thanos around like a redneck's wife, Thanos did not so much as mildly discomfort Odin. Odin wrecked Thanos. No, I suggest rereading the battle. The only time Odin gained an advantage was when Odin pulled out gungir. Odin saluted him and never ever won the fight. Saying he wrecked an opponent he never even defeated is ridiculous and laughable.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I got your back, homie. This is basically all of the sequence that matters, in order:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb1.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb2.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb3.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb4.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb5.jpg

So yes, he says exactly what you thought he said...however, you can see that Tyrant's computer system thinks that orb holds Morg's power in it.


I can't seem to see the other scans. Everytime I try to click on a new scan, it brings me back to the first scan.

Originally posted by PowerCosmic
I can't seem to see the other scans. Everytime I try to click on a new scan, it brings me back to the first scan.
Well, the first scan's URL ending is 'Thanos_Morg_orb1'....try changing the URL to 'Thanos_Morg_orb2,' 'orb3,' etc. That's how they're labeled.

Might be able to see 'em fine then.

Tyarnt

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
And we have no idea what that supposed "powerup" did to Thanos against Tyrant, or if it was even a powerup.
As usual, Kris was probably initially correct with the quoted statement. I went back through some things, and found a lot of strong evidence to support that not only did the orb not contain Morg's Power Cosmic (as CelestialDemon pointed out), but it didn't contain any power whatsoever besides knowledge. Evidence for this is pretty conclusive. First off, the event of Thanos stealing Tyrant's orb is mentioned here:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs0.jpg

Tyrant clearly has a lot of them...which Jakar and a few others steal. Take a look, because it seems like the same type of orb that Thanos stole:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs1.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs2.jpg

That being said...its explicitly referred to as a 'globe of knowledge' by multiple people. Nothing regarding a power amp is mentioned:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs3.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs4.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs5.jpg

And this interpretation fits in perfectly with what Thanos says afterwards when he's studying his own orb which he stole from Tyrant:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb6.jpg

"I sought knowledge...because in knowledge there is power. From that knowledge arose a goal. And I have conquered that goal. Now I probe the spoils of my struggle...attempting to learn its secrets and gain more knowledge."


So...a reasonable argument could be made that Thanos took on Tyrant with his base power. And I think a lot of the textual evidence supports it.

Originally posted by Enyalus
So...a reasonable argument could be made that Thanos took on Tyrant with his base power. And I think a lot of the textual evidence supports it.

Thanos held good for a while, although Tyrant would kill him quickly, if the battle continued. But I can't see Thanos defeating those team of six powerful members (Silver Surfer, Morg, Terrax, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator, Ganymede, and Jack of Hearts) with his base power.

But I think Thanos only did well against Tyrant, because he was studying him and knew to where he could push his limit and for how long he could hold to get what he wants.

Originally posted by Enyalus
As usual, Kris was probably initially correct with the quoted statement. I went back through some things, and found a lot of strong evidence to support that not only did the orb not contain Morg's Power Cosmic (as CelestialDemon pointed out), but it didn't contain any power whatsoever besides knowledge. Evidence for this is pretty conclusive. First off, the event of Thanos stealing Tyrant's orb is mentioned here:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs0.jpg

Tyrant clearly has a lot of them...which Jakar and a few others steal. Take a look, because it seems like the same type of orb that Thanos stole:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs1.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs2.jpg

That being said...its explicitly referred to as a 'globe of knowledge' by multiple people. Nothing regarding a power amp is mentioned:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs3.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs4.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Tyrant_orbs5.jpg

And this interpretation fits in perfectly with what Thanos says afterwards when he's studying his own orb which he stole from Tyrant:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x287/Deywos/th_Thanos_Morg_orb6.jpg

"I sought knowledge...because in knowledge there is power. From that knowledge arose a goal. And I have conquered that goal. Now I probe the spoils of my struggle...attempting to learn its secrets and gain more knowledge."


So...a reasonable argument could be made that Thanos took on Tyrant with his base power. And I think a lot of the textual evidence supports it. Nicely done, now, if I may...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/catsoup-11.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/catsoup-14.jpg

Also, iirc, the orbs were there so Tyrant could store energy from all the power he lost when he fought Galactus.

Thor 5,1/10

I think it should be mentioned that to some characters in marvel knowledge = power, take a look at Korvac hooking himself up to Taa II and had his power increased exponentially.

Originally posted by Mekrob
Nicely done, now, if I may...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/catsoup-11.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/comic/catsoup-14.jpg

Also, iirc, the orbs were there so Tyrant could store energy from all the power he lost when he fought Galactus.

Yeah...KG already posted those pics on the previous page. And I have them, too. But as I also posted on the last page, the comic makes it pretty clear that Tyrant gives Morg his power back so he can fight the intruders. So, the orb couldn't be filled with Morg's PC. What was it filled with, then?

My post kinda addresses that.


Also, the idea about storing energy that you're thinking of probably comes from...SS 81, maybe? Tyrant hooks up his captives (SS, Gladiator, Morg, Terrax, etc) to a machine and states that he'll drain them in order to power his worldship's weapons, etc, for galactic conquest. It never mentions that the energy would be stored in anything. Especially orbs.