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Valor.

Gladiator.

I could see Lar taking the majority.

....Didn't Supes handle Lar with one arm?

Originally posted by Enyalus
....Didn't Supes handle Lar with one arm?

Scans? I know Valor moved entire stars with hardly any problem. Was Pre-Crisis status.

Originally posted by Enyalus
....Didn't Supes handle Lar with one arm?

He also took it to Time Trapper.

Originally posted by cloud102
Scans?

Avlon was the one who brought it up. Said he handled him and Lobo at the same time. Unless that was another Daxamite. They sometimes have similar names. And I've got no idea what issue # he might've been referring to.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Avlon was the one who brought it up. Said he handled him and Lobo at the same time. Unless that was another Daxamite. They sometimes have similar names. And I've got no idea what issue # he might've been referring to. He is referring to an Superman annual

it's true that Superman banged their heads together but they were okay not hurt.

In that same issue when Superman and Lar Gand fought 1V1 Lar had the Upper hand on Superman<he was chocking superman until lobo came and attacked Lar>

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but in Valor series Superman was able to defeat Eclipso control Lar

anyway Current Superman >>> Lar


as for the Mordru and TT comment Valor was amped in those fights

and Gladiator wins
Ok last time debating in a Gladiator thread

Originally posted by kgkg
He is referring to an Superman annual

it's true that Superman banged their heads together but they were okay not hurt.

In that same issue when Superman and Lar Gand fought 1V1 Lar had the Upper hand on Superman<he was chocking superman until lobo came and attacked Lar>

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but in Valor series Superman was able to defeat Eclipso control Lar

anyway Current Superman >>> Lar


as for the Mordru and TT comment Valor was amped in those fights

and Gladiator wins
Ok last time debating in a Gladiator thread

What was he powered with? And was he powered by the same thing when he transported stars? I doubt current Superman can do that.

Originally posted by cloud102
What was he powered with?
vs. Mordru - and he still had to overflow mordru to win
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I don't recall this incident but if he had such a hard time stooping a small aircraft It's likely there is other influence in that feat do you recall when this happen?

His power set doesn't allow to transported stars but superman superior to this daximite look at Mo'nel. Also Superman in the past has gone toe to toe and this was a weak Superman compare to today.

HMmm seems like Valor was taking it to supes there.... hmmm but if consensus is that current supes can beat Valor then Glad stomps his ass.

Originally posted by kgkg
vs. Mordru - and he still had to overflow mordru to win
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8097/valorw.th.jpg


I don't recall this incident but if he had such a hard time stooping a small aircraft It's likely there is other influence in that feat do you recall when this happen?

His power set doesn't allow to transported stars but superman superior to this daximite look at Mo'nel. Also Superman in the past has gone toe to toe and this was a weak Superman compare to today.

Shows it all in here. Seems Gladiator level to me. Maybe even a bit beyond.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=454464&from=thread&pagenumber=2#post9116758

I know you didn't just pull a TP, Cloud.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I know you didn't just pull a TP, Cloud.

Originally posted by cloud102
Shows it all in here. Seems Gladiator level to me. Maybe even a bit beyond.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=454464&from=thread&pagenumber=2#post9116758 are you asking me to look at Valor vs Lobo or the whole respect thread?

Seems like he uploaded the whole issues not just feats


anyway it's true I never said he isn't Gladiator level cuz he is......I just said Gladiator would win against him


if you have any specific instances where he is >> Gladiator? We can work from there

Originally posted by kgkg
are you asking me to look at Valor vs Lobo or the whole respect thread?

Seems like he uploaded the whole issues not just feats


anyway it's true I never said he isn't Gladiator level cuz he is......I just said Gladiator would win against him


if you have any specific instances where he is >> Gladiator? We can work from there

Sorry, but you asked when he moved a star. If you scroll up, Valor is showing moving a White Star. Haven't read the issue, but the feat is there. Among a bunch of others. Also, him tossing a star ship against the gravity of a star.

Gladiator has his low showings as well and don't see him taking a majority here.

BTW, I mean Mon-el. Seeing as Gladiator is based upon PC Superboy.

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Originally posted by guy222
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damn did they ever finish the fight? Kinda shocked how easily She cut him with her bendy eye beams.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
damn did they ever finish the fight? Kinda shocked how easily She cut him with her bendy eye beams.
Meh. He still had her pinned by the throat.

Have you seen her other appearances?

Guy beat the shit out of Valor.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Meh. He still had her pinned by the throat.

Have you seen her other appearances?

nope never