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PUrely physical combat. no deathspores or hallucinogens.

cyber would trash omega red after a good fight.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
cyber would trash omega red after a good fight.

No way.

cyber is extremely strong with his claws he would pound and slash the crap out of him.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
cyber is extremely strong with his claws he would pound and slash the crap out of him.

He has to made contact first.

can't red just ram his tendril through cyber's teeth down into his throat, jiggle it around a little bit and pull up some vitals?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
can't red just ram his tendril through cyber's teeth down into his throat, jiggle it around a little bit and pull up some vitals?

Exactly.

cant cyber just slice of his tentacles with his strength and claws?

Well, considering Wolverine hasn't cut through them yet with his 3 foot long blades, I doubt Cyber's claws can do it. And although he's only supposed to be Class 10, Red is much much much stronger. I don't know how strong current Cyber is, but class was Class 10, his new body though was strong enough to jab a horses head off before the adamantium skin. Although I don't know how much of a strength increase that gave him. Regardless, the tentacle thing is Red's way of taking this with minimal effort. Or he could just as easily use them like whips and bash his face in.

Originally posted by KingD19
Red is much much much stronger.

Isn't Red around Class 10, too?

he a lot stronger then that based on the feats

Red stomps.

I guess I didn't make it clear when I said it, what I meant to say was, even though Red is supposed to be Class 10, he has feats putting him over that. He even took a bull rush into a wall from Colossus, which even with the death spores and potential life drain affecting him, should have been more than enough to crush his skeleton. He's taken getting blasted by Chamber a couple miles, then got up okay. Basically, they need to work on his powers and give a definition, because he's supposed to be Class 10, and pulling of Class 70 and higher durability and strength feats.

not that was just retarded hand books. from day one he shown the same strength levels

I know his strength and durability have always been awesome, but he's always been stated around Class 10 from everything I've seen.

only in hand books never in an actual comic. Hand books are just wrong a lot.

But his strength has also never been detailed in the comics, so they haven't given him a real limit.

true. They have shown repeatedly to match and sometimes over power class 100's

Originally posted by KingD19
I guess I didn't make it clear when I said it, what I meant to say was, even though Red is supposed to be Class 10, he has feats putting him over that. He even took a bull rush into a wall from Colossus, which even with the death spores and potential life drain affecting him, should have been more than enough to crush his skeleton. He's taken getting blasted by Chamber a couple miles, then got up okay. Basically, they need to work on his powers and give a definition, because he's supposed to be Class 10, and pulling of Class 70 and higher durability and strength feats.

strength class =/= durability class

Just look at Luke Cage or Mr Hyde.

Actually, sometimes strength and durability showings are equal, but Red has shown Class 100 strength feats multiple times.

Originally posted by KingD19
Actually, sometimes strength and durability showings are equal, but Red has shown Class 100 strength feats multiple times.

Exactly - sometimes.

When has Red lifted 100 tons?

Originally posted by geshien
Red stomps.

Does anyone think Cyber can effect Red?

? what

??

Originally posted by cloud102
Does anyone think Cyber can effect Red?

What do you mean? He has no hallucinogens for this fight.

Ahh, I didn't read that. If so, I'd pick Cyber.

Originally posted by cloud102
Ahh, I didn't read that. If so, I'd pick Cyber.



OR has the reach advantage. He'd just throw Cyber away if he came too close.

He'd b*tch slap Cyber in the face, knock his teeth in, then drink some Vodka....straight.

I don't think throwing Cyber will do that much damage. I see Cyber as more of a brawler than Red.

red a beast the life drain would end the fight like right away

Originally posted by cloud102
I don't think throwing Cyber will do that much damage. I see Cyber as more of a brawler than Red.

It won't. But it would prevent him from coming close. And if Red got bored with throwing Cyber around...

Originally posted by psycho gundam
can't red just ram his tendril through cyber's teeth down into his throat, jiggle it around a little bit and pull up some vitals?

QFT.

Originally posted by KingD19
He'd ***** slap Cyber in the face, knock his teeth in, then drink some Vodka....straight.

Sure if Cyber is a mannequin!

Originally posted by Battlehammer
red a beast the life drain would end the fight like right away

Originally posted by FrothByte
PUrely physical combat.

Red doesn't get his spores, and I'm assuming he doesn't get his drain, which would make it equally unfair. And since he can't really physically harm Cyber except his face, I say he physically damages.....his face. Poke his eyes out, be naughty.

And Cyber is an Adamannequin!!!!!

Nevermind. I thought Red couldn't use his tendrills. Yeah, Red wins.

Red without his tendrils and Cyber without his claws would be better.

even with out life drain he an animals

Originally posted by KingD19
And Cyber is an Adamannequin!!!!!

http://images.killermovies.com/forums/icons/v2/icon6.gif

is cyber's head protected at all...or is just his chin and mouth area vulnerable?

Well, Red has withstood some crazy damage with no harm done to him, I can't remember many of his strength feats though. And Cyber can still get punched in the face, and as hard as Red hits, he would feel it.

I think Cyber's adamantium stops at his hairline, leaving the rest of his face just skin and bone..

You got my pun!!!!! YAAAAAY!!!!

Originally posted by Starscream M
is cyber's head protected at all...or is just his chin and mouth area vulnerable?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8060/wolverineorigins012015.th.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8060/wolverineorigins012015.th.jpg hmm, so Im surprised Wolverine hasn't cut off his face/head over the years

Good thing for Cyber, Red doesn't have maneating bugs.

Originally posted by cloud102
Good thing for Cyber, Red doesn't have maneating bugs. yeah, guess the fact that Red could lop cyber's head off with his tendrils isn't a real threat...

His neck is adamantium, most of his cranium/face, isn't.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, guess the fact that Red could lop cyber's head off with his tendrils isn't a real threat...

Not if Cyber blocks it with his manly bicepts.

I think Cyber is being a tad underrated here. Unlike Wolvie, his outer body is covered in adamantium save for part of his face. Red not being able to use the death factor or phermones makes this a tougher fight. Would Red be able to crush Cyber with his tendrils? Hed be hard pressed to do so, but i doubt it. I dont have many books with Cyber in it, but from what ive seen, hes pretty durable. Red key to victory here would be to aim for those non covered areas.

Ill give Red the slight advantage here considering he does have a better healing factor without using the DF, he also has the reach advantage and the better h2h combatant. With his powers not being a factor here, he may be more resourceful. Akardy 6/10.

Is Cyber's junk covered?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I think Cyber is being a tad underrated here. Unlike Wolvie, his outer body is covered in adamantium save for part of his face. Red not being able to use the death factor or phermones makes this a tougher fight. Would Red be able to crush Cyber with his tendrils? Hed be hard pressed to do so, but i doubt it. I dont have many books with Cyber in it, but from what ive seen, hes pretty durable. Red key to victory here would be to aim for those non covered areas.

Ill give Red the slight advantage here considering he does have a healing factor without using the DF, he also has the reach advantage and the better h2h combatant. With his powers not being a factor here, he may be more resourceful. Akardy 6/10.

Looking at your sig, this reminds me that Cyber took on Strong Guy back in X-Factor. Do you remember what happened? IIRC, Cyber held his own.

Yea, Cyber's entire epidermis except his face is adamantium. But Red could easily wrap his tendrils around his head and squeeze, cracking, then crushing his skull, which was shown to be non adamantium, at least in the front.

Originally posted by Mindset
Is Cyber's junk covered?

Adamantium jock.

Without the use of his life drain, Red experience the accumulative effects of carbonadium poisoning. The only thing that keeps him alive is the regularly draining the life force from others... as to how quickly the affects will build up without draining during the fight, I can't really say.

Originally posted by cloud102
Looking at your sig, this reminds me that Cyber took on Strong Guy back in X-Factor. Do you remember what happened? IIRC, Cyber held his own.

Guido was fighting others, then Cyber poked him with his poison nail. They both exchanged a hit or 2 on each other, but that was it. The encounters were really extensive, but yea i guess Cyber held his own.

Well since combatants are supposed to be at their best, I think it's safe to assume the Carbonadium poisoning is neutralized for this bout.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... as to how quickly the affects will build up without draining during the fight, I can't really say.

He can go for some time without draining anyone. I think it just depends on how much he drained from the last person and how long and how much he'll exerts himself in a fight.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well since combatants are supposed to be at their best, I think it's safe to assume the Carbonadium poisoning is neutralized for this bout. Not how it works.

Originally posted by Mindset
Is Cyber's junk covered? he probably has a onesie flap.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Guido was fighting others, then Cyber poked him with his poison nail. They both exchanged a hit or 2 on each other, but that was it. The encounters were really extensive, but yea i guess Cyber held his own. they fought again in the next issue following that. guido got an antidote or something, and he was faking being sick so he could beat on cyber who planned on extorting guido with a cure.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
they fought again in the next issue following that. guido got an antidote or something, and he was faking being sick so he could beat on cyber who planned on extorting guido with a cure.

Yea, i have that issue, but like the one before it, the encounter was brief. They didnt get to continue their battle cause Havok stepped in and told guido to help mm.

I know sounds a bit cheap but if they get in a brawl. Red has kinda like 4 arms. He would be able to grip hand to hand with Cyber since strength are same if not in favor of red. THe tendrils and just crush or atleast whip at Cyber's head ftw.

cyber isn't really a slouch in hand to hand. he was wolvi's teacher wasn't he? so his face is uncovered, it doesn't mean it's gonna be an easy target. besides, can his claws hurt OR?

Originally posted by FrothByte
cyber isn't really a slouch in hand to hand. he was wolvi's teacher wasn't he? so his face is uncovered, it doesn't mean it's gonna be an easy target. besides, can his claws hurt OR? what's cyber gonna do to avoid Omega Red's death spores?

it is stated in the start of the thread that this is a purely physical fight. no deathspores and hallucinogens. no life drain either.

Originally posted by FrothByte
it is stated in the start of the thread that this is a purely physical fight. no deathspores and hallucinogens. no life drain either. ah I see, cyber has a better chance. still don't see how he would present too much of a threat to red, whose armor is fricken tough and his tendrils would prevent cyber from getting close.