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Alright will Batman be able to hand these villains on a regular bases? I will take out Bane for Iron Monger aka Stane, Ra's Al Gul for Yellow Claw and Joker for the Mad Thinker and the most dangerous new villain in the Batman line up Gorgon. Now this is not a team but a group of new villains Batman is going to have to fight instead of the old villains.



Villains
Iron Monger- http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Obadiah_Stane_%28Earth-616%29

Yellow Claw- http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Plan_Chu_%28Earth-616%29

Mad Thinker- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Thinker

Gorgon- http://www.marvel.com/universe/Gorgon_(Tomi_Shishido)

Gorgon would kick Batmans arse.

I think on a regular bases he would have trouble with them all.

Originally posted by golem370
I think on a regular bases he would have trouble with them all.

Maybe but Gorgon kills him. If he can beat Wolverien and Elektra after getting injured Batman is toast.

T-T-TOAST!

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Maybe but Gorgon kills him. If he can beat Wolverien and Elektra after getting injured Batman is toast.

T-T-TOAST! Batman is smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra

A well prepped batman would think of a way to beat Gorgon someone who has a strategy to take out Superman would devise and implement a strategy to take out Gorgon.

In a random meeting Gorgon wins.

If batman has basic info on Gorgon Gorgon gets fitted for a bodybag (sent to Arkham since batman as a rule does not kill )

Gorgon has nothing that Batman could not counter given prep.

Originally posted by godking
Batman is smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra

Actually im not sure if he is. Wolverine is very intelligent and Elektra actually has powers that help her tactically. Batman could beat both of them with prep because he has more resources but not because hes smarter.


Originally posted by godking

A well prepped batman would think of a way to beat Gorgon someone who has a strategy to take out Superman would devise and implement a strategy to take out Gorgon.

In a random meeting Gorgon wins.

If batman has basic info on Gorgon Gorgon gets fitted for a bodybag (sent to Arkham since batman as a rule does not kill )

Gorgon has nothing that Batman could not counter given prep.

Yeah your right he couldnt beat Deathstroke with prep so now hes going to beat Gorgon. I dont think so.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Actually im not sure if he is. Wolverine is very intelligent and Elektra actually has powers that help her tactically. Batman could beat both of them with prep because he has more resources but not because hes smarter.




Yeah your right he couldnt beat Deathstroke with prep so now hes going to beat Gorgon. I dont think so. Batman is EASILY smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra put together .

Wolverine and Elektra are fairly smart but not the allround genius and scientist that batman is

Neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and strategic foresight to put in motion a plan that could take years.


Batmans resources dont make him dangerous his mind does.

DS is one of the very very few guys that batman cannot outprep.

Gorgon brings nothing except his petryifing stare that batman has not seen before.

So batman + prep vs these guys... Batman wins.

Originally posted by godking
Batman is EASILY smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra put together .

Wolverine and Elektra are fairly smart but not the allround genius and scientist that batman is

Nah not really both Elektra and Wolverine are very intelligent. If SHIELD are trying to track you down and they have to get Captain America to help them that shows you how smart he is.


Originally posted by godking

Neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and strategic foresight to put in motion a plan that could take years.


Maybe not but Batman still loses to Gorgon hes not going to use some compliacted plan to beat him CIS indicates hes going to face him h2h and get his arse kicked.

Originally posted by godking

Batmans resources dont make him dangerous his mind does.

Um you missed the point. Im just saying thats what would give him an advantage over Elektra and Wolverine. Batman might beat both Elektra and Wolverine in smarts but it wont be easy.

Originally posted by godking

DS is one of the very very few guys that batman cannot outprep.

Gorgon brings nothing except his petryifing stare that batman has not seen before.

Thats because DS is too good. Gorgon would stomp DS.

Originally posted by godking
Batman is EASILY smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra put together .

Wolverine and Elektra are fairly smart but not the allround genius and scientist that batman is

Neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and strategic foresight to put in motion a plan that could take years.


Batmans resources dont make him dangerous his mind does.

DS is one of the very very few guys that batman cannot outprep.

Gorgon brings nothing except his petryifing stare that batman has not seen before. Gorgon is a genius.

Oh yeah and that as well.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Maybe but Gorgon kills him. If he can beat Wolverien and Elektra after getting injured Batman is toast.

T-T-TOAST!
cosigned

Originally posted by godking
Batman is EASILY smarter then both Wolverine and Elektra put together .

Wolverine and Elektra are fairly smart but not the allround genius and scientist that batman is

Neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and strategic foresight to put in motion a plan that could take years.


Batmans resources dont make him dangerous his mind does.

DS is one of the very very few guys that batman cannot outprep.

Gorgon brings nothing except his petryifing stare that batman has not seen before.
doubt it both of them are extremely bright.

yes they do.....both of them are great tactical fighters so wrong.

........gorgon is vastly superior to batman physically.......has insane damage soak and is likly just as smart........yea you have no idea what your talking about

Originally posted by godking
Batmans resources dont make him dangerous his mind does.

Really?

Then explain how he beats the people in this thread without using any resources.

On paper I would say Mad Thinker can match wits with Batman he did create awesome android. Yellow claw knows science tech and magic and with the Iron Monger Stane would be a powerful giving Batman alot more trouble then Bane who he is replacing

Originally posted by Battlehammer
doubt it both of them are extremely bright.

yes they do.....both of them are great tactical fighters so wrong.

........gorgon is vastly superior to batman physically.......has insane damage soak and is likly just as smart........yea you have no idea what your talking about tactical thinking and strategic thinking are two differnt things .

Tactical thinking = the response to immediate danger

Strategic thinking is the long term planning to eliminate future threats .

neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and foresight to put a plan in motion that takes years to complete.

Batman is overall smarter them both of Wolverine and Elektra.

A lot of Batmans threats have been vastly superior physically to him that means little in itself.

Ra's all Gul Bane and others are as smart or smarter then Gorgon.

Gorgon brings nothing to the table batman has not seen and dealt with.

If Wolverine can EVENTUALLY get the ''brilliant'' idea to use Gorgons stone gaze against him batman will have thought of it alot earlier.

Batman at first won't have much to as far as prep see the senario is that these are new villains taken the place of Batman old villains now in their first couple or so encounters Batman won't have any prep if he survives them he will have experience in fighting them but also this is not a one sided chance it would go both ways after their encounters they will understand Batman alot better as well.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
doubt it both of them are extremely bright.

yes they do.....both of them are great tactical fighters so wrong.

........gorgon is vastly superior to batman physically.......has insane damage soak and is likly just as smart........yea you have no idea what your talking about

One of those rare ocassions I agree 100%.

Hell I almost pmed jinzin so he could come down here and kick his arse.

Originally posted by godking
neither Wolverine or Elektra have the patience and foresight to put a plan in motion that takes years to complete.

If he can give SHIELD a hard time in tracking him down and evade capture Captain America Wolverine himself will give Batman a hard enough time.

Originally posted by godking

Batman is overall smarter them both of Wolverine and Elektra.


Maybe but both of them well give him one hell of a time.

Originally posted by godking

A lot of Batmans threats have been vastly superior physically to him that means little in itself.

Not like Gorgon.

Originally posted by godking


Ra's all Gul Bane and others are as smart or smarter then Gorgon.


Maybe but Gorgon possessed near superhuman intelligence as a child and was able to read and write at his first birthday...

Originally posted by godking


Gorgon brings nothing to the table batman has not seen and dealt with.


Yeah he does Uber skill and genuis intellect. Ras and Bane maybe genuises but there not as skillful as Gorgon...nowhere near.

Originally posted by godking

If Wolverine can EVENTUALLY get the ''brilliant'' idea to use Gorgons stone gaze against him batman will have thought of it alot earlier.

Uh..that was the first time he took his glasses off to use on Wolverine. Dont think hes going to fall for the same trick twice.

Gorgon is too much for a prepped Batman? hah

Originally posted by grimify
Gorgon is too much for a prepped Batman? hah

What prep is he going to use? When Batman fighst street levelsr he doesnt break out tha exo-skeletons and crazy shit.

The numerous times hes fought Deathstroke he hasnt used any prep. CIS indicates hes going to fight Gorgon h2h and get murdered.

Challenge to Debaters

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Challenge to Debaters

Well apparently your going to be a judge or something? Count me out. Dont have time for tourneys anyway.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well apparently your going to be a judge or something? Count me out. Dont have time for tourneys anyway. Blair can judge your matches if you want. I hold no animosity towards you, haven't spoken to you in ages. srug