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collossus can do some pretty mean physical damage, but with venom's insanely fast healing factor, and collossus not being able to manipulate the symbiote's weaknesses (fire and sonics) then this one goes to venom.

Venom isn't strong enough to hurt Colossus, this goes to Colossus.

This is very similar to the fights:

Venom vs. Hulk
Venom vs. Juggernaut

in that, Venom is much quicker and able to get off many more hits than his opponent (though not shown in the Juggs match up)...but the fact of the matter is....Venom's blows are not all that effective.

Collossus wins...because eventually he gets his hands on Venom...and that's all she wrote.

I agree once colossus get his hands on venom this party is over. Hell snap his neck like he did to riptide. Even with a healing factor he wont survive that.

ya, colossus is 100+ now, and even though venom is fast, there is nothing he could do, and one hit venom is gone

Venom has Spidey's speed and agility plus he's stronger. I can see him throwing colossus through buildings.

at class 11, Venom wont do whit to collosus, who is class 100 at least. it really doesnt matter how fast he is.

that was a joke right?

and still, buildings arent big enuf to hurt colossus

Battle remove is Venom's only hope. It's going to take hours or more if Venom can keep a good distance. Venom's Class 11 so he can easy web Colossus and throw him about. It won't do much but he can piss Colossus off enough to quit after realizing it be a waste of time to continue.

yea i dont see venom doing much against collosuss i mean one hit and even though its not sonic itd still knock him out.

Colosus with relative ease.

piss off?, id say annoy at best, and colossus inst slow, he does have enhanced reflexes, not as fast as venom but mutch faster than normal people, colossus wouldnt just stand there, he could catch a web, pull venom in and beat him like a ragdoll

More like a red-headed stepchild.

shwa?

Venom would lose yes, but if it were Carnage things would differ.

no it wouldnt

i'm guessing all of you are forgetting that venom's "skin" or whatever is toxic, and seeing as collossus (while in reg. continuity, NOT ultimate) still breathes oxygen and has "gooey" insides, he can be killed through the fumes...

What makes you so sure? I mean, Carnage could seep into Collosus!

First of all things would not be different if it were Carnage. Why do people not understand that Carnage is weaker than Venom? He has consistently been kicked around by Venom and is not nearly as experienced. As for this battle, it's a bit odd, because Venom has the capability of taking down characters way out of his league. While Colossus can overpower Venom with relative ease, yes, Venom can suffocate Colossus with relative ease. It really depends on the writing.

I thought Colossus didn't need to breathe while in steel form.

He doesn't need to breath while in steel form. Venom becomes a black splotch on the ground in this one.

Colossus. Too strong, too tough for Venom.

Venom has a chance if he uses his brains, but he's not known for his intelligence.

Oh ok, I don't know much about Colossus really. If he doesn't need to breathe then yeah, Venom's screwed.

Where did you get this from?

crazyspinz

piss off?, id say annoy at best, and colossus inst slow, he does have enhanced reflexes, not as fast as venom but mutch faster than normal people, colossus wouldnt just stand there, he could catch a web, pull venom in and beat him like a ragdoll

Catch webbing? Gee, I didn't know Colossus that fast! Next thing you know, he'll be all grown up and catching bullets like his hero Superman. Colossus ain't that fast or agile. Colossus can't wallcrawl, even if he smashes the building or target Venom would be off of that by then. Venom would eventually piss this B!tch off.

LMAO

Carnage is stronger then Venom AND spider-man combined. Here's the proof;

From the marvel directory:

"In the past he has exhibited a minimal or nonexistent need to breathe while in his armored state."

That's the only Carnage issue you've read isn't it? If you kept up with the character you would know several things: 1, that was a matter of both Venom and Spider-Man underestimating Carnage's strength rather than utilizing their combined power effectively. 2, Carnage's strength decreased shortly after he became acclimated to his symbiote and his powers became more stabilized. 3, Venom absorbed the Carnage symbiote and added his strength to his own, effectively making Venom nearly twice as strong as before. 4, Carnage' strength was not a major ability considering he wasn't intelligent enough to use it against his foes. Venom is the superior fighter, always has been, and whipped his ass consistently in their confrontations. Spider-Man actually had to save Carnage's life because Venom was beating him so badly.

untrue.

Carnage is physically stronger than Venom, his suit is more versatile, and more durable.

But Venom is a brawler. he doesn't use his brains, he uses his fists. He'd go toe to toe with his son all day everyday....even if he kept getting his butt kicked.


as for all the idiots claiming one punch would knock Venom out, or Colossus would just break Venom's neck.

Get Real.

Venom is a much tougher opponent than that and has faced much much deadlier opponents than Colossus. He would lose the fight, but he would never be such a push over.

Word.

i hate seeing people dumb Venom down.

You haven't read confrontations with them then. Venom WINS their fights. Period. He just does. Carnage doesn't use brains anymore than Venom does. As for the strength, again, no. Venom is stronger than Carnage, it has been illustrated as such in recent match-ups. Venom absorbed Carnage's strength. I don't recall the issue number and I'm not looking it up, but it's the way it is.

wrath...PROVE what you say. Or accept the proof that's been given to you.

Venom has NEVER been stronger than Carnage. Carnage has ALWAYS taken on both Spiderman and Venom to a stalemate.

When Venom goes one-on-one with Carnage he ends up beaten near to death, captured, tortured...and THEN because he's a GOOD GUY....he finds a way to win in the end.

Carnage could have killed Venom easily over 5 times by now. But then there would be no Venom...

Example of Venom using his speed and agility against similar opponents

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Example of Venom not getting knocked out in one punch...(first posted pic is the next page after the uppercut)

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You haven't given any proof whatsoever. Hulk kicking Venom's ass is common sense, and in no way supports your claim. Venom has consistently beaten Carnage--in Maximum Carnage, in Carnage Unleashed, and in recent match-ups with the 'new' Carnage. That's just a simple fact. Period. I don't need to 'prove' it because it's already there. That and the fact that I don't have a fancy digital camera. You haven't read much of Spider-Man lately, thus you don't know what you're talking about when you claim Carnage is stronger. Venom absorbed the Carnage symbiote! That's a fact, not an argument.

By the way, what issue is that of Hulk fighting Venom?

ohhhh boy this should be fun, let me go get my Maximum Carnage comics, Carnage Unleashed, and the ORIGINAL Carnage appearance. and let me post some pics of Venom getting handled by Carnage. brb.

and Nataku8188 posted a VERY relavent picture a couple of posts up.

it's THAT Venom vs. Hulk comic I was telling you about. I'll take a pic of THAT too.

and i didn't post those pics of Hulk vs. Venom for you...it was to back up my claim that Venom could out move Colossus, and that he was more durable than a one hit knock out.

You don't need to post pictures of them, I have all those issues. Venom was tortured when the entire 'Carnage Team' was together. In Chapter 14 he was getting his ass handed to him and Spidey had to save him. Plus I have to go anyway so I won't be here to see the pictures you posted *that I already have anyway* but I know you're only doing it to show off your new camera, so go ahead.

Besides, again, Venom absorbed Carnage's symbiote and added his strength to his own. Plus he beat the hell out of the Sinister Six, I think Venom is virtually the strongest Spidey villain out there.

this is actually true. Venom absorbed carnage's strength, and it was added on to his own. The new carnage is slightly weaker than the original. Carnage, however, is still the better fighter, much faster, and has more fighting abilities at his disposal.

also, in max carnage, carnage was still "young" in terms of symbiotes, and when they are first born, they are at their physical peak. Since then his power has declined drastically and he and venom are MUCH closer in battles now (they both win about half the time now).

By the way, by stronger I mean 'best,' not actually 'strongest.' That would be Rhino.

As for Carnage being a better fighter, he's not, that's my point. He keeps getting his ass kicked. Faster? Yes. More abilities? Obviously. But not a better fighter. He's more haphazard and chaotic.

where does rhino come in???

Green Goblin could kick his symbiote ass

doc oc is even stronger than venom, spidey also fought dr doom, and he kicks total ass

Carnage was in a psychologically weakened state in that fight. For christ sakes he ran to a cemetary in order to dig up his mother...

and Carnage was whipping on Venom until Spiderman webbed Carnage in the eyes. Carnage even lashed out at the end, but Black Cat came to the rescue with a kick to the back.

Good reference though...

Amazing Spiderman 362 WHILE both were in top physical and mental condition

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Amazing SPiderman 363 STILL both in top form

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do you actually have ANY proof that symbiotes are at their peak when they are young? Because what it sounds like...is your opinion...which is far from a fact.

and by all means. please name a couple of battles where Venom has successfully laid a whooping on Carnage without some sort of outside interference...

Yes he does but he's a Fantastic Four villain

Carnage is stronger then I thought...

Venom being able to absorb Carnage is poor writing...

That's like comparing Ultimate Carnage to the Tsunami version of Venom.

the 2nd picture is from their first meeting ever...and Carnage was the one tearing up Venom.

They just dull Carnage up to make it more of a match up...Interestin how Venom has never gotten weaker, yet Carnage has...

don'tcha think?

No.

the venom vs carnage series. the first fight, carnage won. 2nd fight, venom won. And throughout the issues, there are several mentionings of how symbiotes are strongest when they are young.

one time i thought

First of all, Spidey got his ass handed to him by Doom, and Doom's not really a Spider-Man villain. Secondly, Doctor Octopus is not stronger than Venom. Not even close. As for Green Goblin, that would be a very interesting battle. I bet you the writers have thought of that but they're not sure to whom to give the win so that's why they've avoided it. Venom has fought practically all of Spidey's major villains except the Goblins, probably for the very reason the writers don't know who to pick.

The stronger when they're young theory has no actual valid fact, but it is an educated theory because that is how they are represented. It hasn't been stated that it's the case, but it has been written in a way where it could be construed in that manner. Yeah Carnage was in a weakened psychological state, but he was in top physical shape. He's always nuts! He was just slightly moreso this time. If you think about it objectively, Venom usually has the upper hand in their battles where Spider-Man is NOT there. He was losing in 362, losing in most of the Maximum Carnage storyline, winning in Spider-Man Unlimited 2 while Spidey wasn't around, and in the Venom limited series. Something about Spider-Man seems to get in Venom's way I think. That's not just my view, that's actually how it seems to be written, purposefully or not.
Anyway, poor writing or not *most writing nowadays is poor writing* it happened, and Venom is superior to Carnage now.

That would be an awesome fight, the symbiotes against the goblins

honestly not really unless it were Venom Vs. The Green Goblins and The Hobgoblins and Demogoblin

Colossus is stronger and more durable, but Venom is more agile and versatile, who takes it?

err colossus would crush venom like a bug

err venom would not just stand there to be crushed

Venom is faster than Colossus so C might not score any decent hits.... V is also a lot nastier and very resourceful.... i think he could take it

ok, well lets say theyre fighting in an arena...face to face to eachother, opposite corners, no resources....no way to escape....yea when colossus gets his hands on venom, hes dead

Colossus won't touch venom, Venom is probably on par or even faster than spiderman.

But what would Venom actually do to Colossus that would actually put him out of commission.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But what would Venom actually do to Colossus that would actually put him out of commission.

Well he can go into a camouflage mode, which is pretty similiar to the predators version, so that could give him a edge.

Edge... to do...?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Edge... to do...?

Was thinking the same thing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Edge... to do...?

Get up close and use the symbiote to bond with him for a brief moment so that it causes colossus to feel the pain that it has caused throughout the time it's been bonded with eddie brock, and maybe cause colossus to revert back to his human form, which venom can take advantage of while he's vulnerable. Thereotically its possible, dunno if it would work on colossus though as carnage did it to ben reilly.

Whether he can bond with Colossus organic steel form is speculative. He definitely can't bond with his organic rage form.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Whether he can bond with Colossus organic steel form is speculative. He definitely can't bond with his organic rage form.

Well technically he doesn't need to bond with him, he could send a part of the symbiote up his nose or in his ears which he would get access to his brain.

I've always wondered if big C's brain also becomes organic steel/rage like the rest of his tissue.

Well if it doesn't, bye bye colossus.

Originally posted by Maestro
Well technically he doesn't need to bond with him, he could send a part of the symbiote up his nose or in his ears which he would get access to his brain.

Colossus does not breathe while in armored form. There are no slits in the nose. I think the ears as well(dont quote me). The only way Venom can get inside is through the mouth i believe.

Originally posted by Maestro
Colossus won't touch venom, Venom is probably on par or even faster than spiderman.
Stronger than pre-Queen Spiderman...yes!
Faster than any Spiderman...very doubtful!
Originally posted by Maestro
Well technically he doesn't need to bond with him, he could send a part of the symbiote up his nose or in his ears which he would get access to his brain.
...which is made of organic steel (or RAGE, x), so...?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/anticryste/iammadeofrage.jpg

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/anticryste/iammadeofrage.jpg

**** YEAH!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I've always wondered if big C's brain also becomes organic steel/rage like the rest of his tissue.

There's been no evidence AFAIK to support otherwise. On the other hand, he's been damaged severely while in armored form, but was alright. The fact that Magneto could heal his wounds (the internal ones) implies that his organs, everything turns to Organic Steel.......as weird as that may seem

As for the match.....depends on the environment i'd say, but unless they're inside a very small dome/room, i don't see C catching Venom, and i don't see Venom being able to hurt C in any way so i'd say stalemate

~wickerman~

Originally posted by colossus17
**** YEAH!
Somehow you always manage to say that immediately after I post that pic.

Here's a Ragevatar:

Originally posted by Creshosk
Here's a Ragevatar:

While the pages themselves are cool, that avatar assuming you don't know the entire picture is pretty freaky.....makes me think of colossus in a men's room in Tijuana Mexico after too many Tacos

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
While the pages themselves are cool, that avatar assuming you don't know the entire picture is pretty freaky.....makes me think of colossus in a men's room in Tijuana Mexico after too many Tacos

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Creshosk


Now i'm waiting for it to say "Your mother is here with us" and start vomiting a la Exorcist



~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Now i'm waiting for it to say "Your mother is here with us" and start vomiting a la Exorcist



~wickerman~

It's still not as creepy as the robot avatar.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's still not as creepy as the robot avatar. lol, which robot avatar? Mine?

Originally posted by Creshosk


You are one sick modafocka lol

~wickerman~

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Edge... to do...?

Since Venom is almost a shapeshifter he can go into Colossus body

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Since Venom is almost a shapeshifter he can go into Colossus body And?
Originally posted by Creshosk
lol, which robot avatar? Mine? Yes, the creepy evil robot.

Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Since Venom is almost a shapeshifter he can go into Colossus body

How? Not through eyes, nose. I think ears as well. Only chance would be the mouth. Good luck.

Originally posted by jrodslam
How? Not through eyes, nose. I think ears as well. Only chance would be the mouth. Good luck.

Venom can do that

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And?
Yes, the creepy evil robot.

What ever he can do

eh all dipshits colossus would rip venom throat P.S venom would not run from Colossus

Originally posted by broly112
eh all dipshits colossus would rip venom throat P.S venom would not run from Colossus

Shut up noob

Originally posted by Wickerman
You are one sick modafocka lol

~wickerman~ angel_not

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, the creepy evil robot.

That avatar is hot

Hmm I think I'm going with Venom here because, I must admit, Collosus has a bit of an advantage here. However, I still believe that Venom can take him. Why?


1st- Venom has something that Collosus doesn't: 'Spider Sense'.


2nd- Despite his bulk, Venom is an agile guy. Not as agile as Spidey, but probably much more so than Collosus.


Combining these two pieces of info, It's not very easy att all for Collosus to get a direct hit in. Venom also has webing that can slow down Collosus a little.

But Collosus is a whole lot stronger than Venom, 70 tons right? Venom is just class 25. Juggernaut is alot stronger than Collosus and when Juggsie fought venom in The Madness part 1 juggy brutally beat Venom but Venom barely died of that so Collosus wont kill venom so easily.

One possible way for Collosus to kill Venom is by exploiting venom's weaknesses: Fire and Sonics and using his strength thats a way for him to beat venom

I still think Venom wins 7/10 or 6/10

Colossus is way past 70.

I like this thread; In the Venom Carnage argument in the Ultimate Continuity Venom is stronger, but in 616 The two's strength are about the same while Toxin is stronger than both.

As for Venom vs Colossus even Though Venom is one of my fav's Colossus takes this one because(1)Colossus is in the Class 100 power lv while Venom is in class 11, once Colossus gets his hands on Venom the match doesn't last two much longer and.(2) Venom may be fast, but by no means does that mean Colossus is slow. Colossus reflexes are higher in his steel form than his regular form I mean his reflexes have to grow if he wants to move in his steel form, because his wieght at least doubles.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Colossus is way past 70. http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/c/colossus.htm

According to that site it says that Collosus strength level is 70, if he is way past that, where did you get it from?

Wikipedia the new updated one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_%28comics%29


http://www.answers.com/topic/colossus-comics?gwp=19

there you go this is where I got it from.

ok I checked it out, right he is way past 70

Venom wins. Why? Because he can beat spiderman who beat Thor and Firelord. And since Firelord is herald-level, that means Spidey is above heralds. So hes around Galactus-level. And since Thor scared off Galactus in one of his comics, that means SPidey must be above Galactus. So Venom should be around LT level.

Thats about the dumbest thing I have ever heard, please don't say something that dumb again.

im sorry im drunk rite now. I drank too much brewsky

heres evidence
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t383651.html

evidense of what, I think you need to stay off the pipe.

hahahahahahaha, im going with collosus.

venoms cool but cullossess would win

yeah I'd have to say the master of rage takes venom down here... as far as I know... his insides solidify and he doesn't need oxygen or anything... so tendrils are out... and while venom's packing some decent strength it's not really enough to put collosus down while collosus can't really say the same about venom.. no

venom knows how to take a beating, the whole time juggernaut was whomping him he taunted the shit out of Juggsy. That is the way to go, if you can't go out on top then be as rude to your oppressor as possible.

Originally posted by outarddwarf
venom knows how to take a beating, the whole time juggernaut was whomping him he taunted the shit out of Juggsy. That is the way to go, if you can't go out on top then be as rude to your oppressor as possible.

lol..seriously....

Colossus isn't as dumb as Juggernaut, and Venom better watch his mouth or the rage will grow.

Originally posted by soujaboy09
Colossus isn't as dumb as Juggernaut, and Venom better watch his mouth or the rage will grow.

he also isn't as strong or durable as juggernaught either... not that it matters.. but still...

which one would win?

Colossus with ease.

i hate to say this but im man enough to admit it. i say colossus wins this one

And this thread was done before...

Haha.
Colossus handles Venom no problem.

Yeah cool battle. It's two of my favorite characters!!!

Anyway, the master of Rage will take this one but after a long, tough fight.

Venom's got Spidey's speed and agility plus he's stronger, he is like class 25, at least so he will put up a good fight by avoiding Collosus punches, but still Collosus will take him since he has better fighting skills, he is also more intelligent too and he isn't very slow actually since his reflexes are a bit better than a human, but the fact remains that Venom doesn't possess enough strength to KO Collosus and eventually Collosus will get his hands on Venom and he will beat Venom.

Collosus would win 7 or 8/10 IMO

It depends on the version. If this is Colossus when he was a teen and Venom during the madness sag than I say Venom

If this is current Colossus then well Venoms threw

venom wins if hes fighting peter. but once he turns into colossus. byby venom.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
It depends on the version. If this is Colossus when he was a teen and Venom during the madness sag than I say Venom

If this is current Colossus then well Venoms threw well I agree there too actually, Venom the madness handed Juggs his ass so that Juggs ran away. But current Collosus wins.

Originally posted by blind faith
well I agree there too actually, Venom the madness handed Juggs his ass so that Juggs ran away. But current Collosus wins. one of my fav. bookshttp://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4535/venomvsjuggy5wc.jpg

Originally posted by Big Sexy
It depends on the version. If this is Colossus when he was a teen and Venom during the madness sag than I say Venom

If this is current Colossus then well Venoms threw

I never understood why people talk about Venom from the madness as if he were different character.

Originally posted by diabloman
one of my fav. bookshttp://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4535/venomvsjuggy5wc.jpg yeah it was quite good even if it was a little PIS, altough I didn't really like the artwork, it would have been alot better if Mark Bagley, for example, had drawn it, or Todd McFarlane.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I never understood why people talk about Venom from the madness as if he were different character. he looks a little different

Originally posted by diabloman
he looks a little different

Different artwork but it is still the same Venom.

Originally posted by blind faith
yeah it was quite good even if it was a little PIS, altough I didn't really like the artwork, it would have been alot better if Mark Bagley, for example, had drawn it, or Todd McFarlane. i agree there big time with the artwork. i went to kinkos see if they can make a poster of that page. but it would look like shit if they made it bigger. cause if u zoom in u can see some dots.

Venom is out of his league here. Colossus wins.

I actually learned to like venom, and he's become one of my fav characters, but collosus is still stronger and more durable. Venom'd give collosus hell before going down.

As everyone else has said, Colossus wins this one.

Colossus wins this.

Now that I think about, Does colossus have any opening on his body such as his nose, eyes, or ears. Thats a perfect opening for venom to attack him from the inside . I think Venom can pull this off

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Now that I think about, Does colossus have any opening on his body such as his nose, eyes, or ears. Thats a perfect opening for venom to attack him from the inside . I think Venom can pull this off

Colossus' body turns metal on the inside and out, so it wouldn't really matter.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Now that I think about, Does colossus have any opening on his body such as his nose, eyes, or ears. Thats a perfect opening for venom to attack him from the inside . I think Venom can pull this off

Doesn't matter. Colossus doesn't breathe/eat/drink while transformed. Going into his mouth/ears/nose will prove futile on Venom's part.

Colossus wins this with ease. 10/10.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Doesn't matter. Colossus doesn't breathe/eat/drink while transformed. Going into his mouth/ears/nose will prove futile on Venom's part.

Colossus wins this with ease. 10/10.

How will going in his ears prove fuitile

He still can hear and as it has been proven, his ears are a large weakness of his (astonishing x-men #15)

Originally posted by Grimm22
How will going in his ears prove fuitile

He still can hear and as it has been proven, his ears are a large weakness of his (astonishing x-men #15) They are saying that his brain, ears and inner organs are all as tough as his outside shell and are not neccessary for him to live on. I have never heard of that with Colossus though. Meaning hes just as a statue on the inside and out with nothing working which I find suspect.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
They are saying that his brain, ears and inner organs are all as tough as his outside shell and are not neccessary for him to live on. I have never heard of that with Colossus though. Meaning hes just as a statue on the inside and out with nothing working which I find suspect.

He's basically a living, solid statue of steel with a mind and the ability to talk. Don't go trying to figure it out, it's comics.

He doesn't need bodily functions when transformed. So, he stomps Venom.

Colossus does have organs, bones, blood, etc. but they all turn to steel. His inside is every bit as tough as his skin.

Originally posted by blind faith

Venom's got Spidey's speed and agility plus he's stronger, he is like class 25,



actually, he's a class 11...

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Colossus does have organs, bones, blood, etc. but they all turn to steel. His inside is every bit as tough as his skin.

I have never heard this either, do you have proof? Also, Up in Flames, Venom is ALOT stronger then spider man, he is at the very least class 25. Please dont go off Marvel Directory, it can be highly inaccurate.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I have never heard this either, do you have proof? Also, Up in Flames, Venom is ALOT stronger then spider man, he is at the very least class 25. Please dont go off Marvel Directory, it can be highly inaccurate. Trust me on this. I have scans but don't have time to post them.

Originally posted by Grimm22
How will going in his ears prove fuitile

He still can hear and as it has been proven, his ears are a large weakness of his (astonishing x-men #15) That wasn't sound. That was a massive amount of stored kinetic energy, which he foolishly imparted on Sebastian Shaw.

And yes Colossus does become completely organic steel, Magneto once used his magnetism to 'operate' on him.

Aye, i have the "operating" issue. When Colossus gets nearly killed and falls ontop of pyslocke and Magneto has to fix him? this is during Magneto's leadership of the school right? yeah i got that.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
I have never heard this either, do you have proof? Also, Up in Flames, Venom is ALOT stronger then spider man, he is at the very least class 25. Please dont go off Marvel Directory, it can be highly inaccurate. This scan says he has steel bones.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossustakintheheat.jpg

Here he says he is solid steel.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/Colossusunc131.jpg

Colossus 9/10 (Last one's PIS victory)

Venom is faster, Colossus is more durable and stronger.. Colossus doesn't need to drink, eat, sleep or breathe while in his metal form. I doubt there's anything Venom could do to him. Well maybe he could plug his tendrils to Colossus brain, but he's entirely made of the organic steel. I'm sure his brains arent as tough as his skin and muscles. (His eyes can withstand "only" a .45 cp shot). But, how easily is one going to get so close to Colossus without getting PIMP slapped.

I'm quite sure Venom could take few of his hits, but eventually he's going down, hard.

Oh yeah. venom's lot stronger than 11 tons, hell, he's even stronger than 25 tons. He lifted a bulldozer easily , which are in 40 ton range. And, this was before his 2 upgrades.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
This scan says he has steel bones.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Colossustakintheheat.jpg

Here he says he is solid steel.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/doggydogg2/Colossusunc131.jpg

Ill take the proof that his bones are made of steel, but his organs, Just because he says he is Solid Steel doesn't mean he is. How many people in comics have said they are invincible or unbeatable, is it really true?

I heard, cant remember the source, that his organs become harder but not as resistant as his skin.

i may be completely wrong, but didnt colossus get a weapon x upgrade. what did that do?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That wasn't sound. That was a massive amount of stored kinetic energy, which he foolishly imparted on Sebastian Shaw.

And yes Colossus does become completely organic steel, Magneto once used his magnetism to 'operate' on him.

Still a sonic clap right on his ears should put Colossus down for the count

Well at least Ultimate Colossus

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ill take the proof that his bones are made of steel, but his organs, Just because he says he is Solid Steel doesn't mean he is. How many people in comics have said they are invincible or unbeatable, is it really true?

I heard, cant remember the source, that his organs become harder but not as resistant as his skin. Why would his bones turn to steel and not his organs? His eyes turn to steel and eyes are a organ.

His flesh and blood turns to steel. His whole body turns to steel as has been said many times in comics.

I like Venom and I like Collosus too.

But Collosus is the man between them two.

Not that I think Venom is just gonna lie down and give up but he will eventually go down.

Current Venom against Colossus, no thunderclap. Who wins?


(Can Colossus even do thunderclaps?)

Well if it's current Venom I think he would win since he's faster and more agile than Colossus and can hurt him ( Scorpion/Venom is class 75 right)

Does sound still hurt Venom? If so, thunderclaps would definitely win the match for Colossus.

If not? Stalemate.