Orion VS Lobo

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LordofBrooklyn
Orion- Current and fully equipped

VS

Lobo- Classic non retcon

Both are berserk, who wins?

kgkg
Orion

kevdude
Orion as well

Indestructible
stomp. Orion is current and fully equipped. If you dont know who Lobo was when he was first introduced then go do research cause he was made in the 80's and wasnt the guy he is today or the guy he was in the 90's.

quanchi112
Orion wins.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by Indestructible
stomp. Orion is current and fully equipped. If you dont know who Lobo was when he was first introduced then go do research cause he was made in the 80's and wasnt the guy he is today or the guy he was in the 90's.

I know who Lobo is and probably have most of his appearances since The Omega Men debut.

The current Lobo is no longer capable of going toe to toe with Superman and Captain Marvel like he did in the past?

beast1234
Orion has superior fighting skills

OneDumbG0
^ Lobo has superior ass-whuppin skills. He beats Orion like the red-headed stepchild he is.

Don't doubt the Main Man.

Galan007
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The current Lobo is no longer capable of going toe to toe with Superman and Captain Marvel like he did in the past? Meh, his recent showings in 'Reign in Hell' impressed me quite a bit.

Lobo ftw.

TricksterPriest
If Lobo spams blood clones, Orion is going to have problems.

Then again, boomtube works great as BFR. Barring that or clones? The fight itself could take days to resolve.

OneDumbG0
^ Y'know... whatever happened to all these clones anyway:

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4950/lobo00914clones4yv.th.jpg

Galan007
They're hiding.

cloud102
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Y'know... whatever happened to all these clones anyway:

http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/4950/lobo00914clones4yv.th.jpg

They killed themselves, so there can only be one, I think.

Orion wins, BTW. Lobo isn't the only one that has a healing factor.

LordofBrooklyn
Originally posted by cloud102
They killed themselves, so there can only be one, I think.

Orion wins, BTW. Lobo isn't the only one that has a healing factor.

When has Orion displayed the level of healing factor that he would need to stay competetive here?

The healing factor is what I think gives Lobo the edge.

Both are equally vicious, strong and fast.

id369
We have seen Lobo kill Gods in a non kill zone section. Why would it be any different now?

Allankles
I like the main man and all but I can't believe DC used Reign in Hell to retcon his weak showings.

Why can't these companies wait until they have a decent story to tell before wasting a good premise?

Enyalus
I liked Reign in Hell and all, but um...it wasn't like he was all that great in the arc. He wasted a bunch of no name demons with ease. Etrigan. Etc. The magicians he fought were just that - magicians. Not tanks like himself, so that really doesn't qualify IMO.

id369
The impressive part was handling Zatanna, and Dr. Fate who are among the no name magicians.

Enyalus
Originally posted by id369
The impressive part was handling Zatanna, and Dr. Fate who are among the no name magicians.
Dr. Fate was a newb. Zatanna gave him hell.

But again, Bricks =/= Magicians.

Not really an accurate way to gauge his power.

id369
Zatanna gave him hell in the first encounter. Then Lobo came in strait up pimp smacked her with his chain.


We have a round about idea, where he stands against tanks. Reign in Hell, simply serves to show how he stacks up to magic.

Enyalus
Originally posted by id369
Zatanna gave him hell in the first encounter. Then Lobo came in strait up pimp smacked her with his chain.
She could barely speak during their second encounter.

Originally posted by id369
We have a round about idea, where he stands against tanks. Reign in Hell, simply serves to show how he stacks up to magic.
Well, I agree. And I like the Main Man. Considering he's got clones here I don't see how he loses to Orion save for BFR.

id369
Other then BFR, Lobo was about to tag dat ass in the first encounter.

Enyalus
Originally posted by id369
Other then BFR, Lobo was about to tag dat ass in the first encounter.
Wurd.

Allankles
Originally posted by Enyalus
I liked Reign in Hell and all, but um...it wasn't like he was all that great in the arc. He wasted a bunch of no name demons with ease. Etrigan. Etc. The magicians he fought were just that - magicians. Not tanks like himself, so that really doesn't qualify IMO.

That's not it. Lobo is the last guy you would peg for being the big bad locked up in the darkest dungeon in hades.

You see it coming and its still doesn't fit i.e. cool character, wrong premise. Anywhoo I felt Reign in Hell wasn't going to be all that around issue 3, the setting was good even the characters (Lilith, Etrigan, Dr. Occult, Asmodel, Zatanna, Satanus, Blaze etc), but the story doesn't reach the heights expected.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Allankles
Anywhoo I felt Reign in Hell wasn't going to be all that around issue 3, the setting was good even the characters (Lilith, Etrigan, Dr. Occult, Asmodel, Zatanna, Satanus, Blaze etc), but the story doesn't reach the heights expected.
I definitely agree. I think the last few issues made the arc a let down. I also don't like the two-stories-in-one format they used. I know Trinity used it, too. Its not confusing, its just...I don't want to be reading one thing, have it end, and then seemingly take up an entirely different story. Meh.

Juntai
Originally posted by Enyalus
I definitely agree. I think the last few issues made the arc a let down. I also don't like the two-stories-in-one format they used. I know Trinity used it, too. Its not confusing, its just...I don't want to be reading one thing, have it end, and then seemingly take up an entirely different story. Meh. See I like that format in some stories, but in Trinity it's just terrible because I can't stand the tarot card girl's story, lol. Shit, I can barely handle the primary story, and hers just drags it down worse.

Juntai
The two stories in Reign in Hell had primary characters that were at least compelling and interesting.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Juntai
See I like that format in some stories, but in Trinity it's just terrible because I can't stand the tarot card girl's story, lol. Shit, I can barely handle the primary story, and hers just drags it down worse.
Well, not only do I not like the tarot card girl's story, but in RiH, I didn't like Dr. Occult's sidestory. So. sad

Juntai
Originally posted by Allankles
That's not it. Lobo is the last guy you would peg for being the big bad locked up in the darkest dungeon in hades.

You see it coming and its still doesn't fit i.e. cool character, wrong premise. Anywhoo I felt Reign in Hell wasn't going to be all that around issue 3, the setting was good even the characters (Lilith, Etrigan, Dr. Occult, Asmodel, Zatanna, Satanus, Blaze etc), but the story doesn't reach the heights expected. Why is that? Lobo constantly had stories that revolved around Hell in DC. From his contract with Heaven and Hell, to meetings with Etrigan, in fact, Etrigan took him to Hell for a while once, and he started messing stuff up. In Underworld Unleashed, Neron went across space to find Lobo and make a 'deal'.

Allankles
Originally posted by Juntai
Why is that? Lobo constantly had stories that revolved around Hell in DC. From his contract with Heaven and Hell, to meetings with Etrigan, in fact, Etrigan took him to Hell for a while once, and he started messing stuff up. In Underworld Unleashed, Neron went across space to find Lobo and make a 'deal'.

The Etrigan incident was a one-off, a bit of an action comedy (like most Lobo stories) that showed he was uncontrollable even for hell and one of its toughest enforcers.

In Under world unleashed Neron was making deals with a lot of people. Didn't he kill Mongul Sr. for refusing his offer? He went to Apokolips (when DS was missing) and made deals with many of their elites. Neron has done that type of thing with many characters not linked to hell.

Anyway Lobo is not the image you envision for that role, and you know it.

id369
Well I know that the story revolved in the occult/mystic ordeal. However, its primary setting is Hell. And Hell plays a part in the DCU in general, not just to the occult/mystic. That is why we see, Lobo in this arc (plus its Keith Giffen story). Who else could have endured the torment, to power the labyrinth?

manx422
Orion

LordofBrooklyn
What would be the highest showings for each character?

I would think Orion's battle to the death with Darkseid in his series is his best showing.

id369

id369
Certified immortal.
http://f.imagehost.org/0920/Lobo_s_Back_04_24LP.jpg

Even Jenny Quantum can not kill him.
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0424/The_Authority_vs_LoBo_40
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0016/The_Authority_vs_LoBo_41
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0412/The_Authority_vs_LoBo_42
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0721/The_Authority_vs_LoBo_43
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0627/The_Authority_vs_LoBo_44


Lobo vs. Dr. Fate, Zatanna, and some other magicians.
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0619/Reign_in_Hell_08013
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0820/Reign_in_Hell_08015
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0214/Reign_in_Hell_08016
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0532/Reign_in_Hell_08017
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0422/Reign_in_Hell_08018
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0227/Reign_in_Hell_08023
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0623/Reign_in_Hell_08024
http://f.imagehost.org/view/0521/Reign_in_Hell_08025

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