Originally posted by Allankles
Which is it? Is SS tuff in Hunger or not?Without the AF Orion was a brick, and I keep telling people Orion isn't in DS league in terms of power.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Orion had the Astro Harness in The Hunger. And SS was weaker than he is now. Plus, as has been pointed out - DS cheapshotted him. In the back, at that. And SS was up two pages later.
Orion wasn't using the AF in the Hunger. You do realize he has shields with the AF? The Harness is used for flight in the Hunger and nothing more. We see him get hit with the PC without any kind of defense.
You act like DS had somehow sneaked up on SS, it was a battlefield SS knew DS was behind him. Desaad was the only one who cheapshotted SS.
As far as the last part SS wasn't shown getting up at anytime during the crisis. Leaving the 4th world with his master at the end of the crisis means nothing.
Essentially you're giving him props for nothing more than surviving, but nowhere was it suggested that DS attack was intended to kill. It was one generic blast of energy it didn't even look like his typical omega beam.
I don't believe SS can easily beat Orion if the dog of war is actually using the Astro Force, which is what makes him unique. He can put up shields, charge his punches with energy etc, he didn't use it in the Hunger and lost.
SS knew DS was behind him DS was even talking to him warning him that he harboured ill will for the herald. So this cheapshot talk is a cop out, especially when DS is talking him up before one shotting him