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Can Gladiator defeat the herald?

Fallen one ftw

Gladiator

Fallen One

Fallen One

He didn't do much

I give em props Big G can't remove his powers

Thanos humbled him

T&A destroyed him

Glad wins on feats alone

Tell me how he wins friends

Originally posted by guy222
He didn't do much

I give em props Big G can't remove his powers

Thanos humbled him

T&A destroyed him

Glad wins on feats alone

Tell me how he wins friends

you have to admit that Gladiator wouldn't have done better against Thanos or T&A anyway

indeed

didn't see much of fone in his brief appearances

Originally posted by guy222
indeed

didn't see much of fone in his brief appearances

I guess we go by statements of his power and by the knowledge of what the power cosmic can do then

if he had a nice feat, i be glad to say he wins

gladiator has feats

we'll have to see more of him....
untill then I still have faith on him

fair enough friend

neat character

black matter...pretty cool

Black Mater reminds me of the Void

i think the Fallen One is the greatest of all the Heralds..the only problem is his weakness..i think in term of power..he is on par with Thanos..that is just what i think..i can't really remember his fight with Thanos..i'll go read it again..

The most powerful herald is Silver Surfer....the most awesome is Stardust.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
The most powerful herald is Silver Surfer....the most awesome is Stardust.

Stardust rocks...

By feats, Gladiator wins.

By statements, Fallen One. He did draw from an infinite source of power.

Originally posted by Enyalus
By feats, Gladiator wins.

By statements, Fallen One. He did draw from an infinite source of power.

Infinite power source doesn't mean much. What matters is how much of that you can let rip at a time.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
The most powerful herald is Silver Surfer....the most awesome is Stardust.

Don't tell Loeb

Originally posted by Enyalus
By feats, Gladiator wins.

By statements, Fallen One. He did draw from an infinite source of power.

And what limits does gladiator has since we havent seen one yet?

I'm pretty sure that a character that can contain a solar system destroying blast doesnt have that many limits in his abilities.

How many people can you say that could do that? Is there any on panel proof of even surfer or thor having that kind of power.

Dont all heralds have the ability to aspire that Glads is vulnerable to certain radiations? I thought so, but there might not be proof. I always thought the power cosmic gave them that awareness.

Originally posted by carver9
And what limits does gladiator has since we havent seen one yet?

I'm pretty sure that a character that can contain a solar system destroying blast doesnt have that many limits in his abilities.
I'm going by recent Gladiator showings, which put him somewhere around Rachel Phoenix and Blackbolt levels.

Which is a state that, if he had more showings, I'm positive Fallen One would surpass with ease.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm going by recent Gladiator showings, which put him somewhere around Rachel Phoenix and Blackbolt levels.

Which is a state that, if he had more showings, I'm positive Fallen One would surpass with ease.

He did more than showings. His lose to Starlord and Ship.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
He did more than showings. His lose to Starlord and Ship.
En anglais, s'il vous plait?

I'm pretty sure fallen one does not have the power cosmic. Galactus never gave it to him IIRC, I have a scan somewhere....

Originally posted by Tenebrous
I'm pretty sure fallen one does not have the power cosmic. Galactus never gave it to him IIRC, I have a scan somewhere....
Of course Fallen One has the PC. How do you think Aegis and Tenebrous were able to drain him to death? It was also noted that 'this one has the mark of Galactus on him'...or something to that affect.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Of course Fallen One has the PC. How do you think Aegis and Tenebrous were able to drain him to death? It was also noted that 'this one has the mark of Galactus on him'...or something to that affect.

No. Do you think Fallen One needs to have the PC just so T&A can drain his power? They have cosmic awareness. How else was Aegis able to detect that Thanos serves Mistress Death?

Further, its never been explicitly stated that Tyrant has the PC either. In fact, there's more evidence to suggest otherwise.

Then there're the punisher cyborgs, who don't have the PC, or alpha ray bill, or the destroyer armor

Bottom line, just because Galactus made someone, or just because someone serves Galactus, does NOT mean they have the PC.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
No. Do you think Fallen One needs to have the PC just so T&A can drain his power? They have cosmic awareness. How else was Aegis able to detect that Thanos serves Mistress Death?
T&A also have the PC, so yes, I thought that would be - basically - a big reason why they'd be able to drain Fallen One (because he also had the PC, to a lesser extent.)

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Further, its never been explicitly stated that Tyrant has the PC either. In fact, there's more evidence to suggest otherwise.
Tyrant outright brags to Surfer that he has the same power (PC) to a much larger degree than Surfer does and that Surfer had no chance of hurting him.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
Then there're the punisher cyborgs, who don't have the PC, or alpha ray bill, or the destroyer armor
I thought ARB did have the PC, but you're probably right.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
No. Do you think Fallen One needs to have the PC just so T&A can drain his power?

He might not need the power cosmic for them to drain him, but he has it.


Straight from Marvel-

The Fallen One, has cosmic powers befitting those of all of Galactus' Heralds.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Fallen_One_(unrevealed)

Originally posted by Enyalus
En anglais, s'il vous plait?

I don't know what you said; that is worse than my English.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
I'm pretty sure fallen one does not have the power cosmic. Galactus never gave it to him IIRC, I have a scan somewhere....

I think he does but feel free to prove me wrong.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I don't know what you said; that is worse than my English.
Yes. French is horrible.

I said, "In English, please." (Or more literally, "In English, if you will."

Originally posted by Enyalus

T&A also have the PC, so yes, I thought that would be - basically - a big reason why they'd be able to drain Fallen One (because he also had the PC, to a lesser extent.)

I don't think that had PC; it was never mentioned. And being that Annihilus wanted to harness PC, I see it as awkward that him and Thanos didn't attempt to capture T&A for that purpose.

Glads wins by feats and that is is how things are done here.

Have to give it to glads

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
I don't think that had PC; it was never mentioned. And being that Annihilus wanted to harness PC, I see it as awkward that him and Thanos didn't attempt to capture T&A for that purpose.

How would he and Thanos stand a chance against Tenebrous and Aegis? They needed the pair in order to get Galactus. That sort of manipulation would not have worked with Galactus.