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I'm bored. Let me argue with someone.

Any power level below abstract/skyfather... almost any characters. Amalgam or just a normal debate. Choose a character from any medium or genre, so long as I get to argue a comic character and the match up isn't ridiculously balanced in your favor.

I'll even consider taking match ups seemingly balanced in your favor. Just give me something to do.

lol, I pick Majestic!

Srsly?

I could debate against Majestros... mmm

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Srsly?

I could debate against Majestros... mmm

Sure. Who you taking?

debate against superman, you won't be bored doing that.

Edit. lol

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sure. Who you taking? Hmm... I would say Surfer, but I honestly think that might be stomp-ish.

I'd also say Supes, but that sounds boring. mmm

Sersi
Black Bolt
Firestorm
Stardust

Any one of them would be fine, I suppose.

If you feel they're too unfair, I can run through a list of others. This is off the top of my head.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Hmm... I would say Surfer, but I honestly think that might be stomp-ish.

I'd also say Supes, but that sounds boring. mmm

Sersi
Black Bolt
Firestorm
Stardust

Any one of them would be fine, I suppose.

If you feel they're too unfair, I can run through a list of others. This is off the top of my head.

Hmm, fine by me. Any one of those but for Supes. Considering his ridiculous "WTF?" feats.

well after your done smurph I actually like to discusses who you believe would be most effective if one was able to combind anothers power with that of Silver Samurai

i once had a pretty good debate against . . . a few people and used thor vs majestros. but don't let me interrupt. let's get it on!

boxing

incidentally--i think black bolt would make for the best debate of that bunch you named.

black bolt vs magneto would be a good debate

^That would be good.

I'm up for anyone who wants to debate. I need to get my head off the idiocy that I have encountered lately.

Originally posted by leonidas
incidentally--i think black bolt would make for the best debate of that bunch you named. Cool.

I'll use Black Bolt then.

Popular opinion's probably against me to start with, but I shall persevere.

there should be judges

Originally posted by psycho gundam
there should be judges Nah, that will only halt the process.

^True.

Uh... anybody can judge.

Psycho Gundam can judge.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Cool.

I'll use Black Bolt then.

Popular opinion's probably against me to start with, but I shall persevere.

maybe slightly. as it stands--pre-debate--i'd give majestros about 7/10 against black bolt. if you can convince me it's a dead-heat, you'll have done well.

oh, and stop going all invisible and sh!t. it freaks me out. shock

Leo can judge too.

Invisibility is my super power.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Leo can judge too.

nwoot









































enyalus wins.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
well after your done smurph I actually like to discusses who you believe would be most effective if one was able to combind anothers power with that of Silver Samurai Cool.

What are the capabilities of his tachyon field? Are they unbreakable? Cut through almost anything?

We having judges then?

Cool.

Well, when is it going to start?

This is going to be a good debate and I love both Majestros and Blackagar Boltagon (Those names are incredibly cool.).

cuts any matter but adamatium, not too sure about energy

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We having judges then?

Cool.

Well, when is it going to start?

This is going to be a good debate and I love both Majestros and Blackagar Boltagon (Those names are incredibly cool.). Well, we might grab a third judge at some point... odd numbers ensures a victor.

I reckon Enyalus should have some say in all this first though.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I reckon Enyalus should have some say in all this first though.
Why? You could grab Bran and Batdude as judges and I'd still win the debate.




Joking.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Cool.

What are the capabilities of his tachyon field? Are they unbreakable? Cut through almost anything?

yes there suposes to be unbreakable as well as cut through almost anything. he can also put it within any inorganic material. He should also beable to cover range wepaons such as bullets,arrows thrown sword ect.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Why? You could grab Bran and Batdude as judges and I'd still win the debate.




Joking. I'd take you up on that, but not doing so will make it funnier when I win.

Not joking.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes there suposes to be unbreakable as well as cut through almost anything. he can also put it within any inorganic material. You want a certain power level or company? Cuz I want to say Plastic Man, but he is low herald.

Eny, when do you want to start/end?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I'd take you up on that, but not doing so will make it funnier when I win.

Not joking.
Okay. Loser has to smoke the sauage pole of the winner.

I'm going to need your street address.

Alright, I'm here.

I win.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Eny, when do you want to start/end?
You wanna do it tonight, or no?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
You want a certain power level or company? Cuz I want to say Plastic Man, but he is low herald.
I was thinking at tops high meta around colossus level.


also if you could think of any lower level characters that with his abiltiy could make them far bigger threat to tiers above.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You wanna do it tonight, or no? Sure. Tonight, ending when? I was thinking at least a day.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Well, we might grab a third judge at some point... odd numbers ensures a victor.

I reckon Enyalus should have some say in all this first though.

Cool.

Okay, now lets start this thing. Too much talking.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Sure. Tonight, ending when? I was thinking at least a day.
Guess it doesn't matter. I have a final Wednesday so will need to study tomorrow night. Should be done by then though, right?

How we doing this? Posting stuff of our character without posting stuff about the other person's character? 'Cause I'm not too big on BB.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Guess it doesn't matter. I have a final Wednesday so will need to study tomorrow night. Should be done by then though, right?

How we doing this? Posting stuff of our character without posting stuff about the other person's character? 'Cause I'm not too big on BB. K, I'll set up the thread now. We can talk tomorrow about whether we want to keep going or not.

Uh, just like a normal KMC debate, only with just us and no outside interference.

Regarding being able to cut things with no limits: Persuader from the 30th century has an ax that literally could cut ANYTHING. Even rediculous things like voices or energy. LSH foe.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Regarding being able to cut things with no limits: Persuader from the 30th century has an ax that literally could cut ANYTHING. Even rediculous things like voices or energy. LSH foe. Yeah, I know.

That has no application with Silver Samurai.

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Cap, the indestructible part is the best.

Go for somebody with crap durability but solid powers.

Blink, for instance.

Try Selene,She can bring anything inanimate to life,and if she can make them indestuctible and able to cut through anything,well she's pretty much set considering her healing factor.

I still love the plastic man idea.

Make himself indestructible, and make his body capable of cutting anything.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I still love the plastic man idea.

Make himself indestructible, and make his body capable of cutting anything.

I missed that one.


Scary goddam thought.

Also,Is Hammer in your tourney,cause if he is,i think he's just fishing for ideas ATM.

that's not how samurai's power's work, they only imbue longitudinal objects he's holding with tachyons, not organics like his own body.

what about fusing him with loa from the x-men, kinda the same thing.

Plasticman's inorganic.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I missed that one.


Scary goddam thought.

Also,Is Hammer in your tourney,cause if he is,i think he's just fishing for ideas ATM.

I am not in the tourney. I actually tried and get other to understand how some characters can be quite valuable in such tourneys. I also be more then happy to bounces some character idea off people who wish to uses some unknown or often over looked characters. I can also help find issues and or scans for people.

I also just like discussing characters

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I missed that one.


Scary goddam thought.

Also,Is Hammer in your tourney,cause if he is,i think he's just fishing for ideas ATM. Nah.

He doesn't really do anything above Wolverine level.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that's not how samurai's power's work, they only imbue longitudinal objects he's holding with tachyons, not organics like his own body.

what about fusing him with loa from the x-men.

he can imbue any type of metal with his ability

Originally posted by Original Smurph
I still love the plastic man idea.

Make himself indestructible, and make his body capable of cutting anything.

It only seems to work on metal. I never seen him do it on a person. Though it would possiably work on colossus.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Nah.

He doesn't really do anything above Wolverine level.
true. I mid tier down. Don't really much like anything higher then that.

aside from Thunder Cats

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he can imbue any type of metal with his ability how large was the biggest object (besides his katana)?

How high up are the thundercats?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
true. I mid tier down. Don't really much like anything higher then that.

aside from Thunder Cats and jedi, i suppose

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It only seems to work on metal. I never seen him do it on a person. Though it would possiably work on colossus. if that's true, fuse plastic man with mercury of the x-men (either one) and silver samurai.

fighting skills, tachyon field, and killing intent from the samurai, x-men training, liquid metal form, and morphed weapons skills from mercury, and plastic man's malleability.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
how large was the biggest object (besides his katana)?
Can't remember to tell you the truth. He never really had a limit on his ability, it his CIS that prevents him from utilizing the power to it fullest. If not for his honor, he could literally make his entire armor unbreakable or uses guns, causing the bullets being fire to be unbreakable.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if that's true, fuse plastic man with mercury of the x-men (either one) and silver samurai.

fighting skills, tachyon field, and killing intent from the samurai, x-men training, liquid metal form, and morphed weapons skills from mercury, and plastic man's malleability. not to mention plastic man's added durability (for what that's worth), and his telepathy immunity.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
How high up are the thundercats?
Low Meta maybe little higher physically depending on which one you are referring to. There weapons however, some of which are extremely powerful such as the sword om omin's

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Can't remember to tell you the truth. He never really had a limit on his ability, it his CIS that prevents him from utilizing the power to it fullest. If not for his honor, he could literally make his entire armor unbreakable or uses guns, causing the bullets being fire to be unbreakable. ^ droolio the applications for that are endless. (if it's supported by scans)

Originally posted by Original Smurph
and jedi, i suppose
yea and jedi's liek Mace Windu

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Can't remember to tell you the truth. He never really had a limit on his ability, it his CIS that prevents him from utilizing the power to it fullest. If not for his honor, he could literally make his entire armor unbreakable or uses guns, causing the bullets being fire to be unbreakable. wait, can he maintain the tachyon field after the thing leaves his hand?

mmm

Originally posted by Original Smurph
his telepathy immunity.


AKA the biggest steaming pile of plot induced power in all of comicdom?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
if that's true, fuse plastic man with mercury of the x-men (either one) and silver samurai.

fighting skills, tachyon field, and killing intent from the samurai, x-men training, liquid metal form, and morphed weapons skills from mercury, and plastic man's malleability.
Yup or Sam/canon balls sister.


Plus theoretically his power over such tachyon fields should allow him the ability of superhuman speeds.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
AKA the biggest steaming pile of plot induced power in all of comicdom? yes.

doesn't make it any less true.

post-fernus (aka, since Bats said that he "evolved" the immunity), there's nothing to dispute it.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
not to mention plastic man's added durability (for what that's worth), and his telepathy immunity. he would pwn.

tachyons supposedly pass through all matter (in our world), they even pass through universes uninhibited by gravity, faster than light.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
wait, can he maintain the tachyon field after the thing leaves his hand?

mmm
yes I believe they state so in his hand book entry. I also if not mistaken have seen him throw his sword and the energy remain on it.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
yes.

doesn't make it any less true.

post-fernus (aka, since Bats said that he "evolved" the immunity), there's nothing to dispute it.

Has anyone tried telepathy post-fernus to show it's not a one-off?


IIRC,In an arc set in the past he fended off telepathy with a completely different excuse.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Has anyone tried telepathy post-fernus to show it's not a one-off?


IIRC,In an arc set in the past he fended off telepathy with a completely different excuse. Don't think so.

Aye, before he "evolved", right?

Hey does the tier thread, include in individuals powers there weapons?

If so Lion-O among others of the Thunder Cats need to be place good deal higher.

I think there was a Lion-O vs. He-Man feature comic...hmm.

I know I saw fanart for it.




Also, I have no idea why I just brought that up. Its 1 and my brain is mush, I guess.

Also how does one indicate weather one should be effected by TP or not. I mean Wolverine has shown to be effected by TP, but he has also shown to either by completely unaffected or highly resisten

Originally posted by Enyalus
I think there was a Lion-O vs. He-Man feature comic...hmm.

I know I saw fanart for it.




Also, I have no idea why I just brought that up. Its 1 and my brain is mush, I guess.
Lion-O. If he was not effected by CIS and used his swords power to the fullest he could literally transport He-Man to another planet lol light years away.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Don't think so.

Aye, before he "evolved", right?

IIRC that evolved statement is ambigous at best....Batman doesn't state that it was a recent evolution,or that he has "finished" evolving or anything.


Does he?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
IIRC that evolved statement is ambigous at best....Batman doesn't state that it was a recent evolution,or that he has "finished" evolving or anything.


Does he? Apparently he doesn't say evolved at all.

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/4802/fernus3ws5.jpg

He does say "is no longer"... after Plaz spent 3000 years at the bottom of the sea.

Yea, ambiguous.

He never alludes to it changing at some point in his career....

Plus,Joe Kelly also showed that he was ignorant of Plas's vulnerabilty to melting and Martian vision.Which has one-shot him before.Not to mention he seemed unaware of the time that a White Martian Beat Plas in a shapeshift battle.He also had no idea of Jonn's history,as he stated the guardians culled the Burning martians 20,000 years ago,despite it being explicitly stated numerous times that Jonn was pulled through time from 40,000 years in the past.

Kelly didn't know shit.

I can judge.

scoob and i actually considered amalgamating samurai during the last tournament. can't recall who with, though it may have been shift, now that i think about it. there were problems though. none of which i will mention here in case someone thinks he's still a good idea . . .

Reopened. Kewl.

lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
lol Just a thought...

if Silver Samurai could affect minerals and similar, then a Silver Samurai/Dust amalgam could be ridiculously good.

Dust's actually made of silicon, iirc.

Still, a thought.

For that matter, a Silver Sam/Sand combo could be real good too.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yup or Sam/canon balls sister.


Plus theoretically his power over such tachyon fields should allow him the ability of superhuman speeds. true, all she has to do is remove her top layer of skin to reveal a metallic one and then imbue herself with the tachyon field.

nobody is phucking with that.

Silver Samurai/Hydro Man

So, I need a new match now.

Any power level below high herald, choose any character you want, etc.

I r bored

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Any power level below high herald, choose any character you want, etc.
I'm choosing Darkseid!

Kewl.

I choose Batman.

You win.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Kewl.

I choose Batman.

That'd be truly awful, considering their head-to-head matches.



If no one else takes you up by tomorrow night, I'll think of someone to debate with again.

Originally posted by Enyalus
If no one else takes you up by tomorrow night, I'll think of someone to debate with again. Kewl

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Kewl I'll debate you juggernaut durability (me) vs galactus durability (you) if you're up for a challenge

Originally posted by Starscream M
I'll debate you juggernaut durability (me) vs galactus durability (you) if you're up for a challenge when?

Originally posted by Original Smurph
when? tomorrow

edited.

It's tempting, but I don't know much Galactus.

Hmm....

Originally posted by Original Smurph
It's tempting, but I don't know much Galactus.

Hmm.... actually good point...neither do I. nevermind the debate then.

^ If you don't know much about Galactus how are able to claiming that his durability is lower than juggernaut?

From the scans when he is nearly dying?

Originally posted by Starscream M
actually good point...neither do I. nevermind the debate then. How can you compare the two characters then if you just admitted you don't know jack about Galactus?

Originally posted by kgkg
^ If you don't know much about Galactus how are able to claiming that his durability is lower than juggernaut?

From the scans when he is nearly dying? I know some about galactus durability...but not that much about him overall

Originally posted by Starscream M
actually good point...neither do I. nevermind the debate then.



smurph wins!

nwoot

ps--if you want, i'll entertain you. pick 2 characters and you take whichever you'd like. if i REALLY don't know the character i'll repick. we'd need to spread things over a few days though.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I know some about galactus durability...but not that much about him overall Are you clamming that Normal fed Galactus < Juggernaut in durability?

Originally posted by kgkg
Are you clamming that Normal fed Galactus < Juggernaut in durability? by onpanel feats...yes

Originally posted by Original Smurph
So, I need a new match now.

Any power level below high herald, choose any character you want, etc.

I r bored Here's an idea for a debate between us. Who below high-herald do you believe would take more than a healthy majority against Dr. Doom? Depending on your answers, maybe we can disagree enough on certain matchups to have a healthy debate. Let me know if you're interested.

^sentry

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Here's an idea for a debate between us. Who below high-herald do you believe would take more than a healthy majority against Dr. Doom? Depending on your answers, maybe we can disagree enough on certain matchups to have a healthy debate. Let me know if you're interested. Black Adam, Cable (Full Power), Captain Marvel (DC), The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), Shaman Nate Grey, Sersi, Shaman, Cassandra Nova


Those are the ones I'd consider. I may have to narrow down the list a bit further, and I'd consider others as well, but "more than a healthy majority" is a hard thing to debate because I really don't know what that constitutes, and 10/10 is always a difficult thing to argue.

See what you think, let me know.

Those are all wrong.

Bart is the closest to winning, him being the greatest Flash and all.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Black Adam, Cable (Full Power), Captain Marvel (DC), The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), Shaman Nate Grey, Sersi, Shaman, Cassandra Nova


Those are the ones I'd consider. I may have to narrow down the list a bit further, and I'd consider others as well, but "more than a healthy majority" is a hard thing to debate because I really don't know what that constitutes, and 10/10 is always a difficult thing to argue.

See what you think, let me know. I don't consider Black Adam to be below high herald, but hey, that's me. I could put up an argument with a great deal of those characters, but it'd be a very hard argument on my end and we're really not that far apart in our opinions. The only one I might consider arguing is Sersi. But that only depends on how many out of 10 you think Sersi takes.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't consider Black Adam to be below high herald, but hey, that's me. I could put up an argument with a great deal of those characters, but it'd be a very hard argument on my end and we're really not that far apart in our opinions. The only one I might consider arguing is Sersi. But that only depends on how many out of 10 you think Sersi takes. I just copy/pasted from the tiers thread. srug

^ How many do you think Sersi takes against Doom?

8/10.

If you really want to argue Doom, I could see if there's a low herald that I'd debate for too for a majority.

^ Hmmm. Unfortunately, I am running the scenarios in my head and there are few vulnerabilities of Sersi's I am aware of for me to definitively overcome the general consensus and predilection of many posters here that Sersi is extraordinarily powerful. So I'll pass on that. I may revisit this in the future though.

As for low herald, go for it. But don't confine yourself to the tier list. I have serious objections to that list as it is. Just think of character matchups that I would disagree sharply with you on.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Hmmm. Unfortunately, I am running the scenarios in my head and there are few vulnerabilities of Sersi's I am aware of for me to definitively overcome the general consensus and predilection of many posters here that Sersi is extraordinarily powerful. So I'll pass on that. I may revisit this in the future though.

As for low herald, go for it. But don't confine yourself to the tier list. I have serious objections to that list as it is. Just think of character matchups that I would disagree sharply with you on. K, well...

Meggan?

Depending on the starting situation, arguing a bloodlusted version of Blink to take at least some wins would be fun. Hell, I'd argue for a majority.

I could argue Sand for a 5/5 too.... mmm

Oh, btw, I'm assuming that we're barring time manipulation with Doom. I dunno if he actually has time magic, but I wouldn't bother debating that.

send man mix with silver samurai powers would be deadly

Originally posted by Original Smurph
K, well...

Meggan?

Depending on the starting situation, arguing a bloodlusted version of Blink to take at least some wins would be fun. Hell, I'd argue for a majority.

I could argue Sand for a 5/5 too.... mmm

Oh, btw, I'm assuming that we're barring time manipulation with Doom. I dunno if he actually has time magic, but I wouldn't bother debating that. Actually. Give me a few days and I'll argue Sersi taking 8/10 with Doom. As I consider it, if Doom were to travel through time, then that would be leaving the battlefield and a self-BFR. Otherwise, someone like Morgan le Fay would be undefeatable against someone who can't time-travel.

What I want to argue is that it is more probable than not, that Doom would at least be able to take 3/10. Agreed?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Actually. Give me a few days and I'll argue Sersi taking 8/10 with Doom. As I consider it, if Doom were to travel through time, then that would be leaving the battlefield and a self-BFR. Otherwise, someone like Morgan le Fay would be undefeatable against someone who can't time-travel.

What I want to argue is that it is more probable than not, that Doom would at least be able to take 3/10. Agreed?

Depending on how long you want, this may go into next week. I'm never free over the weekends.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
send man mix with silver samurai powers would be deadly Debate me in an amalgam match?

Dunno if I want to debate against a Sand Man/Silver Sam amalgam, but it can be whatever you want. srug

naw I dont have enough scans on sandman plus I dont have enough time. I got big paper to finish, but maybe some other time

cool

Originally posted by Original Smurph


Depending on how long you want, this may go into next week. I'm never free over the weekends. Start tomorrow then with your opening post. I'll respond as soon as I can. We'll try to keep this as contained and short as possible. To be honest, I've never debated in this fashion before, so I'll follow your lead.

It is agreed that Dr. Doom cannot time-travel in this fight. I'll concede that. You are arguing that Sersi can take at least 8/10. I am arguing that Dr. Doom can take at least 3/10.

Any volunteers for judges? I assume that Original Smurph and I reserve approval over who our judges are.

K, well, I might still be able to start tonight, but it'll be going into next week in all liklihood. I reckon we should probably just start next sunday/monday, since I probably will be on very little after tonight until then.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0


It is agreed that Dr. Doom cannot time-travel in this fight. I'll concede that. You are arguing that Sersi can take at least 8/10. I am arguing that Dr. Doom can take at least 3/10.
so smurph is saying doom can win 2/10 and you're arguing that doom can win 3/10

that's a little too nuanced to debate, no?

Originally posted by Starscream M
so smurph is saying doom can win 2/10 and you're arguing that doom can win 3/10

that's a little too nuanced to debate, no? Well, I'm saying no more than 2 times, and he's saying no less than 3.

Standard debates are the difference between 6/5, 5/5 and 4/5. No different really.

i want to judge again, your matches are kewl.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Standard debates are the difference between 6/5, 5/5 and 4/5. No different really. I actually meant 6/10, 5/10 and 4/10.

It made sense when I wrote it.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Any volunteers for judges? I assume that Original Smurph and I reserve approval over who our judges are.

If Smurph and yourself don't mind, I'd be more than happy to judge.

Both are cool with me.

I'll submit my name as a judge candidate, if you need one.

^ I'm good with both you and Enyalus. And I also don't see the need to limit ourselves to three judges. I'm cool with three out of five judge votes as well or even beyond that as long as you limit your rationale for judging based purely on what we post and nothing else. To the point of even ignoring your own knowledge. I understand this to be the rule in these kinds of things. The only other requirement I have is you give a succinct explanation for your vote.

Original Smurph: Start any time you like. I'll be very busy this weekend myself so next week is fine by me.

Bumpz.

This thread could be a place where people could post characters that they are willing to argue for, so that certain debates could come up.

Edit after the edit time limit: I'd recommend against skyfather/+ characters though. ermm

But I wanted to draft Mandrakk.

And I wanted to draft Superman. You can't always get what you want.

Seriously though, I don't want to get into the idiotic hyperbole-fueled 'I can destroy more universes than you!!!' discussions any time soon. Besides, the whole charm of < skyfather characters is that they have various powersets and feats, and the tactics and discussions are thus more interesting.

So, Smurph said the cap was high meta now, right?

I just checked the first post, and Smurph also mentioned power levels below abstract/skyfather. Good.

Anyhow, if everybody would start posting some of the characters they'd rep, things would go smooth.

When I have time, I'd be willing to debate for Batgirl, Bullseye, Black Adam, Doomsday, Green Lanterns, Loki, Magneto, Sentry, Superman..etc.

You did that Batgirl/Bullseye Battlezone a while back, didn't you? That was cool.






I'd own you in a Magneto debate. uhuh

Yeah, I did. I was kinda dissapointed since I mostly spent time uploading scans and when it finally came to discussing it, due to timezone and shit, we only got a few posts each (me and Srank). I didn't really have time to put emphasis/discuss tactics, at all. Thus the whole "when I have time.." bit. At least 2 days of discussion.

Magneto discussions should be interesting. It'd be fun to debate for him against a GL.

i might be back now.

did you miss me?

Nope.

cut yourself.

Nope.

But what if you did?

You'd probably enjoy it.

I wanna have a BZ match against Gamora, Midnighter, Karate Kid or someone else I consider extremely overrated.

Sure you wanna toss Midnighter's name into that list, punk? uhuh

Unlike KK, who has only managed to stalemate someone like Mon-El for a brief period of time, Midnighter's actually killed two Kryptonian-like beings at the same time (Kryptonian-like meaning flight, heat vision, super strength, etc), and blitzed another one faster than it could see, to kill him, too.

you feel gamora is overrated? who'd you go against her with?

Originally posted by leonidas
you feel gamora is overrated? who'd you go against her with?
The dude said she'd lose to Iron Man...

Originally posted by Enyalus
Sure you wanna toss Midnighter's name into that list, punk? uhuh

Unlike KK, who has only managed to stalemate someone like Mon-El for a brief period of time, Midnighter's actually killed two Kryptonian-like beings at the same time (Kryptonian-like meaning flight, heat vision, super strength, etc), and blitzed another one faster than it could see, to kill him, too. If that's all that's required to be Kryptonian-like, then, hell, Vision is kryptonian-like.

Anyways, debate me with Midnighter then?

Originally posted by leonidas
you feel gamora is overrated? who'd you go against her with? Probably most high metas. It was inspired because I witnessed a majority of Vs. posters claiming she'd beat Stark, but that doesn't have to be the match up.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Probably most high metas. It was inspired because I witnessed a majority of Vs. posters claiming she'd beat Stark, but that doesn't have to be the match up.

hmm, i wouldn't agree that she'd beat tony i don't think. she COULD beat him, but he's more then capable of putting her down. hmmm . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, i wouldn't agree that she'd beat tony i don't think. she COULD beat him, but he's more then capable of putting her down. hmmm . . . Well, we could debate on how much Tony would win vs. her

As for other characters, my typical high meta character would be Sand (from JSA).

Assuming that he gets rejected, I'd go for Super Skrull, Machine Man, Temugin w/ the Mandarin's rings (I think, I'd have to check that one out)... and more, I'm just pulling names out of my head.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
Well, we could debate on how much Tony would win vs. her

As for other characters, my typical high meta character would be Sand (from JSA).

Assuming that he gets rejected, I'd go for Super Skrull, Machine Man, Temugin w/ the Mandarin's rings (I think, I'd have to check that one out)... and more, I'm just pulling names out of my head.

i could prolly defend gamora if you wanted. i thought enyalus was BZ'ing you with 'nighter already though.

meh, whatever. if you want to choose a dc person we could maybe start the BZ version of marvel v dc--if anyone is interested in it. if not, i guess it doesn't matter who you choose.

Meh, thinking on it, Midnighter wouldn't really do well in a battlezone, I don't think. He's got feats like most high end street people do. But his other feats, mostly battles, are against superhumans with no feats of their own. For instance, he's taken on 30 metas at the same time without being struck, and beat most of them before the Carrier BFR'd the remainder. And he's beaten an entire spacestation full of enhanced "zombies" (I guess you'd call them) that were 10 times stronger, faster and more durable than humans and had a healing factor. But, no feats prior to him killing them. The canon fodder rule kinda takes precedence in that sort of situation, I would think.