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Martin Riggs is transported after his Laos encounter, at the height of his training, in his physical peak, (But without Murtaugh) to Han's island in Enter the Dragon.

Now Riggs, being a pretty capable fighter and Martial artist makes good headway and short work of the piles of men he faces in the tournament.

But then he faces his ultimate challenge.

Lee (played by Bruce Lee) is rostered to fight Riggs next.

And so they will fight, H2H at Han's lair with all the mirrors and shit,
and firearms are banned, in accordance with island rules.

Scenario A:
As specified, unarmed combat to the death.

Scenario B:
Riggs with a cop nightstick (a pair of Tonfa),
Lee with one (or two) sets of Nunchaku.

Who wins...?

Lee cuz i'm biased, AND I haven't seen riggs in action.

Really...? Youve not seen Lethal Weapon..?

Great movie. Like Die Hard 1 and 2, its best watched around christmas.
Its sequels are pretty good too.

A) While Riggs is trying to throw out a sloppy back-kick, Lee side-steps in and plants a kick that both breaks his ribs and send him flying back 15 feet.

B) Riggs ends up with a nightstick up his ass and a smile on his face.

A) LOLZ

B) ROFLMAO

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Martin Riggs is transported after his Laos encounter, at the height of his training, in his physical peak, (But without Murtaugh) to Han's island in Enter the Dragon.

Now Riggs, being a pretty capable fighter and Martial artist makes good headway and short work of the piles of men he faces in the tournament.

But then he faces his ultimate challenge.

Lee (played by Bruce Lee) is rostered to fight Riggs next.

And so they will fight, H2H at Han's lair with all the mirrors and shit,
and firearms are banned, in accordance with island rules.

Scenario A:
As specified, unarmed combat to the death.

Scenario B:
Riggs with a cop nightstick (a pair of Tonfa),
Lee with one (or two) sets of Nunchaku.

Who wins...? Spite

Lee destroys Riggs

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Spite

Dont be silly.

You rave about Riggs' MA prowess and he being a serious competitor for Jet Li in the LW films, and the man himself seems confident against other fighters like when he challenged Busey at the end of LW1.... so as a logical progression of this, I just thought:

"Does Riggs want a shot at the title...?"



THIS was a spite thread, by your very loose definitions:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=501318&pagenumber=5#post11505132

Someone likes Riggs a little too much.

Spite thread.

Nope. Its not.

I'd fess up if it was, once pulled up.

Cause Im the kinda fella who knows when the jig is up, seeeeeeee.....?

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Dont be silly.

You rave about Riggs' MA prowess and he being a serious competitor for Jet Li in the LW films, and the man himself seems confident against other fighters like when he challenged Busey at the end of LW1.... so as a logical progression of this, I just thought:

"Does Riggs want a shot at the title...?"



THIS was a spite thread, by your very loose definitions:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=501318&pagenumber=5#post11505132 I raved that Riggs MA prowess would pwn McClane, thats ALL. I said Riggs did better against Li than McClane would have, thats ALL.

Indy versus McClane, that wasnt a spite thread, it is two guys with similar fighting styles, both lucky as hell, both tough as nails.

You pit Riggs against Lee's Enter the Dragon character, SPITE.

You clearly have no understanding of the word.

Still. Easier to try to derail genuine discussion with quick buzzwords that you half understand than contribute to a thread intelligently, though, isnt it...?

Riggs demonstrated enough ability with tonfas/nightsticks to be a reasonable contestant in a battle against Nunchuku..
So thats a reasonable thread scenario.

Given the amount of world class forces trained MA attackers throughout his movies that McClane has killed.
And that you say that Riggs can beat McClane,
You would have to rate Riggs, logically, due to McClanes repeatedly killing men of Rigg's ilk. Therefore the H2H is valid also.

Don't cry about it though.

Yes, Riggs isn't that good. Lee was pwning the best in the world.

Well fair enough if thats your opinion.

It was alot more interesting to read than two word buzz posts.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
You clearly have no understanding of the word.

Still. Easier to try to derail genuine discussion with quick buzzwords that you half understand than contribute to a thread intelligently, though, isnt it...?

Riggs demonstrated enough ability with tonfas/nightsticks to be a reasonable contestant in a battle against Nunchuku..
So thats a reasonable thread scenario. Yes, Riggs has skills, but you are pitting him against someone who is on a whole different level, and you know it.

And how did McClane kill them? Did he kill them h2h? Nope. He killed them with either a zippo lighter or an SUV. Inventive, yes. Cool method, definitely. And how many world class MA fighters did McClane take on, exactly? The only one who came close to that description is the Colonel from DH2. Karl was nothing more than a pissed off Eurotrash terrorist. The ninja chick wasnt even all that and she pwned McClane.

Tell me, in this battle, Riggs versus Lee, whats around? Is it strictly h2h and weapons based? Is there an SUV around? Is Lee fleeing in a jetliner that is leaking jet fuel?

Bottom line: Riggs is a better h2h combatant than McClane.

McClane is more inventive finding ways to kill someone.

Well if thats your opinion...it can be just that.

Riggs used things to kill people too....does that detract from his ability..? Whether it be shipping containers, Surfboards, or a partner with a gun like Riggs, his methods of ending fights are not the only point.

Besides. Ninja Chick was 'pwned' at h2h.

McClane knocked her ass out and went about his day.

When she woke up, she got up while he was preoccupied with trying to stop all that computer shit and like a dirty so and so, kicked him through the window.

She used the window move dude.
So McClane just upped the ante and won.

He beat her already. I provided proof that he knocked her out and won.

When challenged to provide a screengrab or some sort of proof that she had somehow knocked him unconcious..therefore winning.....strangely you never did/could.


Yet you repeat this falsehood of her beating him H2H again and again.

Im not sure if its other people you hope to fool, or yourself... but whatever: fact is you're wrong.

Do you really want to get into this again? You have your take on it and I have mine. All thats gonna happen here is page after page of bullshit.

Theres no need to.

Ive just destroyed the "ninja chick beat McClane H2H" again.

And if you dont like bullshit on your screen, you can stop typing it at annnnyyyyyyyyyy time you choose. You've just gotta break that poopic rhythm.

Back to Riggs versus Lee....

Riiiiiiiiight....

Yeah, Riggs get pwned here, as would McClane.

Actually, while I dont think McClane could beat him in a tournament, of course, his endurance and luck would allow him to survive somehow.

I do admit that auxilliary killing methods would have to be employed in a to the death situation against this particular adversary.

Be they SUV or Zippo.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Actually, while I dont think McClane could beat him in a tournament, of course, his endurance and luck would allow him to survive somehow.

I do admit that auxilliary killing methods would have to be employed in a to the death situation against this particular adversary.

Be they SUV or Zippo. Win? Nope. Survive? Maybe.

Come on now. If that auxilliary method was blowing him up or shooting him/SUVing him, I dont care how good a MA practioner he is, McClane would kill him. Period.

Did you list that as a condition of the thread? Whats McClane or Riggs gonna use to blow Lee up on that island?

Of course its not.

But..hey you were the one talking about nonthread things, bringing up irrelevant things like McClane.

Um no. You linked the McClane versus Indy thread, I replied.

Rubbish. I was forced to point out your double standard of your inaccurate calling of "SPITE" (like a little girl, btw) by pointing out that you also make threads that could also be misconstruded as spite threads by lesser individuals.

Your reply had little relevance/context. Dont dont try that one with me, matey. Its no good attempting to cover your attempt to derail the thread, something that you're still trying to do even now.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Rubbish. I was forced to point out your double standard of your inaccurate calling of "SPITE" (like a little girl, btw) by pointing out that you also make threads that could also be misconstruded as spite threads by lesser individuals.

Your reply had little relevance/context. Dont dont try that one with me, matey. Its no good attempting to cover your attempt to derail the thread, something that you're still trying to do even now. In your opinion, is Lee a far superior h2h combatant than Riggs?

Generally yes, but punchers chance etc....

I think Lee would likely be the counterstriker in this.

I see Riggs trying to shoot fight, somehow trying to negotiate the kicks..

Dude, he is far superior, no contest. He's asian

I take it you meant that post ironically...

Mehbeh

It does make sense (Jet Li being Asian and beating Riggs h2h)...

OK, so Riggs and McClane both suck against asians haermm

Except the bit about Mcclane: He knocked his asian out and then killed her in a lift shaft when she didnt know when to quit.

Such a shame too. What a piece of ass.

Indeed.

An ass that took in an entire SUV with no lube.

Indeed haermm Maggie Q is hot in ANY role she plays.

No argument there.

Back to the matchup. Give Riggs a nightstick or two, have Lee unarmed, and MAYBE the fight is interseting for a minute or so.

He would almost certainly win against Lee in that scenario.

Lee wouldnt be able to do shit with two broken knees.

You may just as well have given Riggs a beretta and a partner to wield it.

I really dont think so, man. I think Lee's speed would suffice.

Speed cant be delivered with no legs.

Even McClane would be in trouble with no legs, against Lee, man.

Heres a twist. Riggs and McClane teaming up on Lee, all unarmed......

Lee is the first to die, killed by Riggs and McClane.

McClane brutalises Riggs when Riggs is in his usual post fight-need-of-a-cuddle-from-his-partner phase.

He then drinks some beer.