wolverine's joints and tendons....

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emporerpants
do they have adamantium on them? someone i was talking to said that you can chop off woverine's head by slicing through the tendons and ligaments and such...i was under the impression that those are coated somehow too. could someone provide me with a scan showing that i am right? i'm pretty sure i am...

Raoul
his skull is still linked to his spine and such, so no, you really can't...

afaik, it's the skeleton that's laced, and nothing more...

Mindset
His bones can not be seperated with the amount of force we've seen thus far, I don't know if his ligaments and tendons have shown to be as strong as his bones, but they are indeed stronger than normal humans.

CATMANEXE
he wouldnt be able to move.

theyve never been shown to get separated in 616, but his arm got blown off in AoA and part of his spine knocked out in a What If?
by the Hulk.

StiltmanFTW
That was just one dislodged vertebra.

KingD19
AoA and others aren't usually accepted as canon.

CATMANEXE
Originally posted by KingD19
AoA and others aren't usually accepted as canon.

i stated they werent. but it makes logical sense that that would work.
plus, its not like your going to find an example in 616, and those stories are written by people who write the actual statement. in other words what you just said is a cliche overstatement.

StiltmanFTW
Actually 616 Wolverine had his neck snapped by NC and Sabes... but that doesn't mean you can decapitate him. His skeleton works like an action figure... hell it was even depicted like that in Days of Future Past (not canon, I know, just saying)...

Paola
Ultimate Sabretooth got decapitated by Wolverine, both have adamantium skeletons... I KNOW! not canon... bah!

Ridley_Prime
Wow, really? Good thing I already lost any respect I had for the Ultimate universe awhile ago.

Robtard
Ultimate Wolverine doesn't have a modular/linked skeleton, his joints are his weak points. Which really makes more sense.

Why Hulk was able to rip him in half, though he was able to put himself back together.

Ridley_Prime
That part was bullshit, IMO. thumb down

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Paola
Ultimate Sabretooth got decapitated by Wolverine, both have adamantium skeletons... I KNOW! not canon... bah!

Ultimate Wolverine is a loser. Just look at this:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2739/ultimatewolverinevshulkw.th.jpg

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8073/apoc46722664.th.jpg
Credit goes to Galan007.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9615/colossusvswolverineu367.th.jpg
Credit goes to snoopdogg.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3356/ultimatespiderman661112.th.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/1548/ultimatewolverinevshulk.th.jpg

Mindset
Originally posted by CATMANEXE
he wouldnt be able to move.

It's a comic.

Robtard
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Ultimate Wolverine is a loser. Just look at this:

I don't know, surviving being torn into pieces and being able to put yourself back together doesn't sound so "loser" to me. Just look at the guys who torn him up, they're not light-weights.

emporerpants
thanks for all the responses everyone. i just remember battlehammer claiming that wolvies joints and stuff had adamantium or something. i don't remember, i just remember him and some others claiming that wolvie's head can't be sliced off at the joints, or any of his limbs.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Robtard
I don't know, surviving being torn into pieces and being able to put yourself back together doesn't sound so "loser" to me. Just look at the guys who torn him up, they're not light-weights.

I know, I know. He's a loser when we compare him to his counterpart, though. The Real Wolverine literally laughs off bullets, can't be ripped in half, survived decapitation, two nukes, regenerated from a single drop of blood (to be fair, his HF was amplified then), got out from a vat of molten metal and just walked away...

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by emporerpants
thanks for all the responses everyone. i just remember battlehammer claiming that wolvies joints and stuff had adamantium or something. i don't remember, i just remember him and some others claiming that wolvie's head can't be sliced off at the joints, or any of his limbs.

And that's true. Some bad guys in Sentry suits tried to decapitate him with an adamantium buzzsaw. Guess what? They failed.

Ba'al tried to rip him apart only to find out he can't.

The Hulk didn't even succeed in tearing one of his tendons responsible for the claws, let alone rip them off.

The Hulk had leaped and landed on Wolverine's fingers and they stayed connected.

Silver Samurai arguably tried twice to cut him between the vertebrae with no effect.

Mindset
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

The Hulk didn't even succeed in tearing one of his tendons responsible for the claws, let alone rip them off.
Do you have the scan for this?

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Mindset
Do you have the scan for this?

Yes. Wait a moment, please.

StiltmanFTW
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8682/sixhours1.th.jpg http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6995/sixhours2.th.jpg

Silke
Cool scans, cool scene, actually. But .. there's a kid's life at STEAK here?!? Augh! Don't they have people supposed to catch friggin' errors like that? What's he trying to say, that a kid's currently being tenderized and readied for BBQing or what? *grumbles about incompetence*

Mindset
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8682/sixhours1.th.jpg http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6995/sixhours2.th.jpg Did you draw that?

StiltmanFTW
facepalm

No, it's from Hulk/Wolverine: Six Hours.

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/9098/hw6hours.th.jpg

Mindset
If you thought I was serious. . .

StiltmanFTW
I didn't, but someone else could smile 6 hours story is canon, like it or not. There is also another example when Classic Cyber took hold of Logan's claws and it didn't hurt him at all.

StiltmanFTW
And Classic Cyber had some insane strength feats, like throwing a rolled up piece of paper through a window, breaking it laughing out loud

Wolfblood77
I recall reading in one of the Bullpen Bulletins at the back of a comic someone asking the editor (Bob Harras?) why Wolverine's bones don't pop out his body after he falls of a building or something. His answer was that each of his bones were connected by microscopic adamantium chains. I've been trying to find it in the back of my old comics but can't locate it.

Darth Jello
to reinforce this, another character with most of his bones laced with adamantium had his neck snapped-Bullseye. True it's not his whole skeleton like Wolverine but definitely his entire spine.

Mindset
I thought he got his neck snapped before the adamantium.

wannabe
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8682/sixhours1.th.jpg http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6995/sixhours2.th.jpg A rather strange feat, is it not?!
Logan's not able to free his claws from Hulk's grasp via all his major arm muscles, but pulling them in does the job???
confused

Martian_mind
Cat

wannabe
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Cat
What's that suposed to mean?

Mindset
It's what's for dinner.

Darth Jello
Originally posted by Mindset
I thought he got his neck snapped before the adamantium.

After too. American Eagle snapped it and left him as helpless as he was before until Osbourne found a way to replace the damaged section of his spine and brain from that encounter with prosthetics.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by wannabe
A rather strange feat, is it not?!
Logan's not able to free his claws from Hulk's grasp via all his major arm muscles, but pulling them in does the job???
confused

No, it's not.

The tendons responsible for his claws are vastly stronger than other muscles. It's common knowledge.

Scoobless
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
got out from a vat of molten metal and just walked away...

Yeah, climbing & walking when all his muscles had burned off, no one else have a problem with that?

Mindset
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's common knowledge. Maybe not.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah, climbing & walking when all his muscles had burned off, no one else have a problem with that?

Merely saying that he has better feats than Ult. Logan.

And yeah, actually that makes sense if you take into consideration Guggenheim's story. IMO that just wasn't under his own power. He must've won another fight against Lazaer.

KingD19
The only other person who moved after becoming a skeleton was Juggernaut. Logan walked off being incinerated by molten steel.

emporerpants
awesome, thanks guys. does anyone have any scans of silver samurai or sabertooth trying to cut off wolverine's head or sever his spinal column? those scans would totally own this guy i'm arguing with.

StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Wolfblood77
I recall reading in one of the Bullpen Bulletins at the back of a comic someone asking the editor (Bob Harras?) why Wolverine's bones don't pop out his body after he falls of a building or something. His answer was that each of his bones were connected by microscopic adamantium chains. I've been trying to find it in the back of my old comics but can't locate it.

Heard about that chains theory, too. That would explain why some of his bones can get dislocated but not severed.

Originally posted by emporerpants
awesome, thanks guys. does anyone have any scans of silver samurai or sabertooth trying to cut off wolverine's head or sever his spinal column? those scans would totally own this guy i'm arguing with.

Here ya go.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/725/silversam3ci3ch2.th.jpg
Thank you, jinzin!

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9195/newavengers2822002454ht1.th.jpg

emporerpants
thanks dude!

StiltmanFTW
You're welcome.

wolverex84
I think it boils down to how his individual bones are connected to one another and the degree of the tensile strength that holds the connecting bones together. you have to understand human anatomy and physiology to appreciate the complexities behind wolverine's adamantium skeleton and the ultra high tensile joints. Having an adamantium skeleton will be extremely hard to decapitate, why?, because the distance of how two individual bones connects is extremely small, meaning there is less space for connective tissues like tendons and ligament, that explains why a sword will stop and not cut through his spine, fingers, joints, because the blade will hit two connecting adamantium bones, hence it will break or stop the sword's force.
99% of the time, the blade does not get to hit in-between two connecting adamantium bones, especially bones as complex in structure and shape. ones with irregular shapes; vertebra, ribs, humerus, radius, tibia, phalanges, scapula, patella etc.. but in most cases the blade gets to hit individual bones covered with adamantium.

like before another explanation is why he is indestructible is the tensile strength of his joints, especially his tendons and ligament. you have to understand that the weight of the adamantium will put pressure on his tendons and ligament, hence his body has to keep up with the new weight of his highly dense bones. fortunately for him, is constant regenerative healing factor allows his body to either make new tendon packed tissues to support the weight or it constantly tears and repairs itself to hold his joints together, so this will explain why his ball and socket joints ( femur and humerus) gets popped out but not ripped out, that is why baal couldn't rip his arms out, the tensile strength holding two bones is too strong.

Wolfblood77
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Heard about that chains theory, too. That would explain why some of his bones can get dislocated but not severed.


Adamantium chains holding his bones together is the best explanation I have read so far because they have nothing to do with tendons or ligaments and allow full motion. Mind you, the answer I read was from when Wolverine got his adamantium from the weapon x program and since then he has lost it and had it returned by Apocalypse. The process may not have been the same.

Basically it is up to the writers. So far we have seen that Ultimate Wolverine can be torn apart and the 616 version has resisted it... but that can change at any time. Honestly, I hope they don't have this happen in the 616 universe because once it happens the first time, it becomes a recurring theme and you'll see his limbs getting ripped off every other issue like in the Ultimate Universe.

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