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I'm only posting this thread because there's currently a very active thread where some are saying Wanda could beat the LT.

If it's true (and I'm not convinced), can she take it up a notch (or gazillion) and challenge the one who's just marginally below TOAA?

She can't.
Pre Retcon Beyonder easily.

Beyonder stomp

beyonder uses no lube on her

/spite thread

I think Wanda beats LT.


I also think she loses here.

bump

Tough fight!!!

PRB shows her how to make no more mutants.

Beyonder wins.

Wanda loses

Originally posted by Xplosive
She can't.
Pre Retcon Beyonder easily.
But I thought that no being, no matter how grandiose it's opinion of itself, could match her.

That's what you said, at least. Was it a lie?

Originally posted by King Kandy
But I thought that no being, no matter how grandiose it's opinion of itself, could match her.

That's what you said, at least. Was it a lie?

PRB was something like a quintillion times more powerful than the entire marvel universe put together. There really isn't any character that exists today that's on that kind of footing, and if there was he/she/it would be immediately retconned, since the existence of something THAT powerful makes a joke out of every other character in your continuity.

no editor in chief is going to be dumb enough to repeat making another PRB.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
PRB was something like a quintillion times more powerful than the entire marvel universe put together. There really isn't any character that exists today that's on that kind of footing, and if there was he/she/it would be immediately retconned, since the existence of something THAT powerful makes a joke out of every other character in your continuity.

no editor in chief is going to be dumb enough to repeat making another PRB.

Mandrakk would eat his story.

Mandrakk would get raped.

PRB wouldn't risk catching the hundreds of STDs Mandrakk probably has. Vampire. Blood transfusion issues. Etc.

Mandrakk >PRB

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Mandrakk >PRB At sucking dick

Originally posted by Space M ummy
PRB was something like a quintillion times more powerful than the entire marvel universe put together. There really isn't any character that exists today that's on that kind of footing, and if there was he/she/it would be immediately retconned, since the existence of something THAT powerful makes a joke out of every other character in your continuity.

no editor in chief is going to be dumb enough to repeat making another PRB.
I'm well aware that PRB would win this with ease. I'm pointing out the stupidity in his earlier arguments by showing they could just as easily be used to give Wanda the win here.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That's what you said, at least. Was it a lie?

Really, I said it? Wasn't it said in the comic and I just pointed out that fact?

Originally posted by King Kandy
But I thought that no being, no matter how grandiose it's opinion of itself, could match her.

That's what you said, at least. Was it a lie?

I don't know, but if you would want to come out as important, smart, at least use brains, you know. When that was said for Wanda power, PRB didn't exist anymore.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm well aware that PRB would win this with ease. I'm pointing out the stupidity in his earlier arguments by showing they could just as easily be used to give Wanda the win here.

It wasn't stupidity. Having power to beat any current being, doesn't mean you can beat PRB. It's you who made a moron from yourself now.

I mean, what were you thinking?

PR Beyonder stomp..he turn her into a normal human..no more power for her..

Originally posted by Xplosive
Really, I said it? Wasn't it said in the comic and I just pointed out that fact?



I don't know, but if you would want to come out as important, smart, at least use brains, you know. When that was said for Wanda power, PRB didn't exist anymore.



It wasn't stupidity. Having power to beat any current being, doesn't mean you can beat PRB. It's you who made a moron from yourself now.

I mean, what were you thinking?
No cosmic being could possibly defeat her. No matter who it is, or how powerful it is.

How could this apply to some beings but not others. Beyonder and LT are both "cosmic beings with grandiose opinions of themselves".

Originally posted by King Kandy
No cosmic being could possibly defeat her. No matter who it is, or how powerful it is.

How could this apply to some beings but not others. Beyonder and LT are both "cosmic beings with grandiose opinions of themselves".

PRB didn't exists during HOM (how can someone have grandiose opinions of themselves, if he doesn't even exists during it, so that quote doesn't apply to PRB, but towards others in the current continuity). And like I said, I give HOM Wanda above LT as you know it already. And being above LT doesn't mean anything when PRB is in the game.

What, did you think I would change my mind considering Wanda and LT?

That quote concerning Wanda doesn't apply to classic Beyonder or Owen Reece,
since it was published over 20 years after their retcon.

I agree with X & Eny,
it's quite possible that Wanda during HOM became more powerful than anything/anyone.
(via the 'Destiny Force' this is very believable, heck Protege stepped into that status)

I mean,
Roma actually stated that her power could possible threaten the "Ascention" itself.

As in ... Heaven!

Mandrakk>PRB>WANDA>PBJ


but yeah she is going down town to china town

Originally posted by Enyalus
Mandrakk would eat his story.

That is certainly debatable

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
That is certainly debatable
I wasn't serious. PRB would force Mandrakk to be fed through a straw for the rest of his existence if they ever tussled.

Geez, some people think that HoM Wanda is like a skyfather level being or something. In my opinion, she gets waaaaaay too much credit as far as reality warping goes.

Beyonder stomps her.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Geez, some people think that HoM Wanda is like a skyfather level being or something.
Let's go with "or something." Considering she'd stomp all skyfather level beings at the same time.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Let's go with "or something." Considering she'd stomp all skyfather level beings at the same time.

I doubt it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I doubt it.
I don't care.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't care.

Great.



Either way, HoM Wanda gets stomped by Beyonder.

Beyonder, easily.

Originally posted by Mr Master
That quote concerning Wanda doesn't apply to classic Beyonder or Owen Reece,
since it was published over 20 years after their retcon.

I agree with X & Eny,
it's quite possible that Wanda during HOM became more powerful than anything/anyone.
(via the 'Destiny Force' this is very believable, heck Protege stepped into that status)

I mean,
Roma actually stated that her power could possible threaten the "Ascention" itself.

As in ... Heaven! It was going to pop out of the comic and attack the writers!

Originally posted by Juntai
It was going to pop out of the comic and attack the writers!



Chaos Wave was really Stan Lee's concentrated anger at the current mostly shitty Marvel writers. So, its possible.