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Ion 2 Kyle (with a GL Ring).

vs.

Beta Ray Bill

To the death, who takes this match and why?

Go!

BRB

BRB dies

Kyle.

Lets hear those stats.


Durability
Strength
Speed
Energy
Battle Initiative


How would this encounter go down?

Originally posted by id369
Lets hear those stats.

Durability
Strength
Speed
Energy
Battle Initiative

How would this encounter go down?

Kyle was getting pretty banged up by Grayven. I think durability might be a toss up. Strength goes to Bill. Combat speed goes to Bill. Energy goes to Kyle. Battle initiative goes to Bill.

Not sure what good Kyle's constructs are going to do against Stormbreaker, though. We've seen what 95% of the Ion Power can do when Yat wields it. Luckily this Ion also has the Starheart's massive power.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Kyle was getting pretty banged up by Grayven. I think durability might be a toss up. Strength goes to Bill. Combat speed goes to Bill. Energy goes to Kyle. Battle initiative goes to Bill.

Not sure what good Kyle's constructs are going to do against Stormbreaker, though. We've seen what 95% of the Ion Power can do when Yat wields it. Luckily this Ion also has the Starheart's massive power.

Good point. I forgot about the Starheart. Overall, Kyle was pretty disappointing from what I remember. Didn't he create a mini universe?

I thought Kyle was getting the better of Grayven until Guy interrupted with a message of his mother.

Originally posted by cloud102
Good point. I forgot about the Starheart. Overall, Kyle was pretty disappointing from what I remember. Didn't he create a mini universe?
No. I dunno why certain people have said that. He warped an energy attack into a tiny ball that, I suppose, looked like a pocket universe to some people.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where people got the notion that Ion made a pocket universe is beyond me. If you look at what is actually happening, all he did was manipulate/contain the blast Nero discharged:

http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1243389_ion0.jpg http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1243390_ion1.jpg http://s1d3.turboimagehost.com/t/1243391_ion2.jpg

srug

That feat in it of its self is impressive. Nero is around the Herald Class, warping and containing that energy should count for something. But no real justification, to deem it a mini universe creation.

That blast was powerful enough to kill all the guardians, yet Kyle contained it with ease

Originally posted by xJLxKing
That blast was powerful enough to kill all the guardians
You sure?

Originally posted by Enyalus
You sure?
I would imagine that if someone is going to assassinate someone, you make sure you use enough power/force.

You don't attempt to kill someone with a BB gun, You use a real gun.

Well, brilliant deduction, Watson.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Well, brilliant deduction, Watson.
Just saying, why go and try kill the Guardian who are very powerful with a very weak blast.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I would imagine that if someone is going to assassinate someone, you make sure you use enough power/force.

You don't attempt to kill someone with a BB gun, You use a real gun.
Bullseye could do it .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Bullseye could do it .
After I saw him kill a old woman in the movie, I don't want to know what he can do in comics.

Originally posted by id369
I thought Kyle was getting the better of Grayven until Guy interrupted with a message of his mother. At first, Grayven was getting the better of Kyle. But when Kyle actually got serious, he owned Grayven with realitive ease.

Originally posted by Enyalus
You sure? That's what the blast was intended for..

srug


Anyhow, Ion ftw.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Just saying, why go and try kill the Guardian who are very powerful with a very weak blast.
So whenever Lex Luthor attacks Superman, he's more powerful than Superman?

I disagree with your Diversity hands down assessment. Stormbreaker does everything Kyle can do except the ring's AI assistance.

The rest...nice job on.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I disagree with your Diversity hands down assessment. Stormbreaker does everything Kyle can do except the ring's AI assistance.

The rest...nice job on. Its those constructs, from all the way back since the pri crisis era that really give the edge. Sheezes to a certain extant you can supplement broken/stolen tech. Good stuff. Stormbreaker cant really replace that ability.

So yeah, thats what swayed my vote.

Kyle didn't even exist before the first Crisis.

I posted the wrong scans.
This is Kyle neutralizing the black hole in the sun. Notice that the black hole nearly encompasses the entire sun, simply massive feat.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6561/54799678.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9886/39092472.jpg
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4657/11841694.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8018/1617f.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8418/66315365.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3103/87656697.jpg

Originally posted by Enyalus
Kyle didn't even exist before the first Crisis.

Indeed, I am just speaking of how the constructs have bin portrayed in general.

I will give you an example.
Making a construct to back fire, your own attack is impressive. Kyle and Kilowog restabilizing the planets orbit is impressive. Impressive shiz.


http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8734/pic005w.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3554/33130261.jpg