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Who takes it?

Very, very tough call imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Very, very tough call imo.
Since I don't have the issues to look at directly....was Gog's staff able to absorb energy?

I don't know about his staff but he was able to absorb and amp himself with various energies used against him.

Monarch

Originally posted by Charmander
Monarch

Monarch

Monarch

Monarch

If Monarch gets tagged with the staff would it bust him open?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Since I don't have the issues to look at directly....was Gog's staff able to absorb energy? Gog's staff? Not sure. Gog himself? Most definitely.

I'm going w/ KG.

Originally posted by Galan007
Very, very tough call imo.

Originally posted by cloud102
I'm going w/ KG.
Me, too.

Monarch

KG, everytime. Much faster and he is powerful enough to wreck right through his armor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
KG, everytime. Much faster. True. Even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to catch/own him.

Originally posted by Galan007
True. Even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to catch/own him. Do you think that Gog would survive the ensuing blast?

I think he could teleport out of the blast's way...

Originally posted by Galan007
I think he could teleport out of the blast's way... But what if he didn't?

For the purposes of this battle, he would.

Well, Monarch's explosion did destroy that whole universe. So if Gog did rip open the armor, it would be considered a double kill, kill from the grave, some Halo type victory?

Sure... Assuming Gog didn't just, you know, teleport out of the blast's way.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, Monarch's explosion did destroy that whole universe. So if Gog did rip open the armor, it would be considered a double kill, kill from the grave, some Halo type victory? No, even if the blast hit him and destroyed him Monarch lost.

Originally posted by Galan007
Sure... Assuming Gog didn't just, you know, teleport out of the blast's way.
I think per KMC rules that'd count as a self-BFR, lol.

Which is funny, because even though Gog is well capable of teleporting out of the blast's way, he is apparently just supposed to sit there and let it hit him. So sayith the rules!!

Originally posted by Galan007
Which is funny, because even though Gog is well capable of teleporting out of the blast's way, he is apparently just supposed to sit there and let it hit him. So sayith the rules!!
Evidently.

Too bad he doesn't have Thanos' shields for the battle. biscuits

Kingdom Gog.

Originally posted by Galan007
Which is funny, because even though Gog is well capable of teleporting out of the blast's way, he is apparently just supposed to sit there and let it hit him. So sayith the rules!! If you are gone ten seconds I think that counts as a self bfr. Regardless, Monarch blowing up means you win the battle.

He wins if Monarch blows up, but he still dies in the process, so it's really a hollow victory. And Monarch traded blows with SBP, SBP is stronger than Gog I believe, and if he was floored by Citizen Steel, then I think Monarch can physically pound him. I however don't know much about Gog anyway.

Hmm.. interesting match.

I'm going with Monarch with this one. He was able to last long against a tougher opponent (SBP).
IMO, SBP is stronger than KG, but not by much.

Eh, this is a tough one to call.

In the end, I would say Monarch, but I wouldn't want to bet any money on it.

The only reason Monarch didn't win his fight with SBp was because his suit was breached. I think if they had continued to fight, Monarch would have taken it.

Yea, SBP was getting weaker.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Hmm.. interesting match.

I'm going with Monarch with this one. He was able to last long against a tougher opponent (SBP).
IMO, SBP is stronger than KG, but not by much. How is he stronger than Gog? Gog is much faster than either Prime or Monarch so how does Monarch screw with a guy with faster than nanoseconds when all that needs to happen is a few blasts to his armor.

Stronger and faster are two different aspects. Monarch is physically superior to Gog, since he was winning the fight with SBP, who is in the high end of the top 5 physically strongest in the DC universe.

We don't know how fast Monarch is, just because he was never shown going at that speed, doesn't mean he can't. Plus just because Gog can hit someone between nanoseconds, doesn't mean he's super fast, his perception might be to the point where he can sense things like that.

Originally posted by KingD19
Stronger and faster are two different aspects. Monarch is physically superior to Gog, since he was winning the fight with SBP, who is in the high end of the top 5 physically strongest in the DC universe.

We don't know how fast Monarch is, just because he was never shown going at that speed, doesn't mean he can't. Plus just because Gog can hit someone between nanoseconds, doesn't mean he's super fast, his perception might be to the point where he can sense things like that. Monarch was blasting him which has absolutely nothing to do with strength.

We know Gog is faster than nanosecond speeds and we have never seen Monarch reacting anywhere neat that fast. We don't credit Monarch with things he has never done.

Gog is ridiculously fast and until Monarch comes back and proves he is he isn't.

If Gog was so fast, how did Citizen Steel and all the others land hits on him?

Originally posted by KingD19
If Gog was so fast, how did Citizen Steel and all the others land hits on him?

Originally posted by KingD19
If Gog was so fast, how did Citizen Steel and all the others land hits on him?
Different Gog.

Originally posted by KingD19
If Gog was so fast, how did Citizen Steel and all the others land hits on him? Originally posted by Galan007
True. Even when Rip stepped in between nanoseconds, Gog was still able to catch/own him.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Different Gog.

Same Gog, different pants.

Originally posted by Mindset
Same Gog, different pants.

Originally posted by KingD19
If Gog was so fast, how did Citizen Steel and all the others land hits on him? You didn't read the kingdom.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't read the kingdom. Is that the only thing you know how to type? "You didn't read so and so"

Originally posted by iceman24567
Is that the only thing you know how to type? "You didn't read so and so" It was necessary while your post still shows me how much I matter to you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was necessary while your post still shows me how much I matter to you. Yeah you are full of yourself

Originally posted by quanchi112
But what if he didn't?

He'd be s#@$ out of luck. As strong as he is, he aint no SBP!

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah you are full of yourself You responded to me.Originally posted by lordraiden
He'd be s#@$ out of luck. As strong as he is, he aint no SBP! What are you basing this off of?

Bump

Gog would breach his armor and then teleport away and back to survive the universe-wipe.

Who has more raw power output?

He should be able to breach the armor.

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