Alex Mercer(Prototype) vs. StarKiller(the Force Unleashed)

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six6six
-for those who aren't aware of what Alex can do, here's just a little taste of what he can do...

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Q'Anilia
Need I state my thought on the matter? stick out tongue

danteiscool
Alex wins. he definitely wins.

NemeBro
Starkiller easily.

Q'Anilia
Originally posted by NemeBro
Starkiller easily.

Phanteros
Starkiller sends him into space

LLLLLink
Um, Starkiller much.

Cakewalk.

KingD19
As hard as it is to kill Alex, it is possible. And a sustained Force Ligtning, or a lightsaber could probably do it. Or probably enough Force energy to crush him.

six6six
****REVISED ****


Let's put Cole McGrath from inFAMOUS on Alex Mercer's team. Would StarKiller still put a whoopin' on these two or do the combination of these two put Galen Marek on his wallet?


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The Last Rider
THAT would be interesting,but Starkiller wins. Although,It would now be almost impossible

Nemesis X
Alex and Cole = an unstoppable force.

Now that I think about it, Radical and Sucker Punch need to talk about making a game where those two meet.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Nemesis X
Alex and Cole = an unstoppable force.

Now that I think about it, Radical and Sucker Punch need to talk about making a game where those two meet.

How do they counter precog and TK?

Anon E. Mous
If Galen tried lightning, cole would absorb it while alex gets behind him and cuts him in half.

Edit: Tk and precog would beat them, though.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Anon E. Mous
If Galen tried lightning, cole would absorb it while alex gets behind him and cuts him in half.

Edit: Tk and precog would beat them, though.

Yeah because they both move way faster than him and they're above his precog?

SK would stab Alex or jump out of the way.

KingD19
Alex can do that massive whip attack, or do the bio mass spike special. Plus he can throw objects at Starkiller, and use assault rifles. Everyone knows how hard it is to block slug throwers(regular guns) in the star wars universe. Eventually he would go down, unless he just tk'd Alex off the battlefield, but he's easily capable of making his way back.

Quincy
Starkiller would own them both seperately, but together might be difficult.

Cole spamming lightning while Alex slices and dices... mhmm

although this is all moot if Starkiller has his lightsaber.

Phanteros
starkiller can always repell Alex if he gets close

KingD19
He doesn't have to get close, remember his massive area attacks?

Phanteros
Originally posted by KingD19
He doesn't have to get close, remember his massive area attacks? Starkiller has two hands to use the force

Quincy
Dont underestimate Cole. He's capable of repelling too. stoned And if he pushes you, you'll float around in the air just waiting to be wrecked.

Phanteros
Originally posted by Quincy
Dont underestimate Cole. He's capable of repelling too. stoned And if he pushes you, you'll float around in the air just waiting to be wrecked. then again SK has two hands to use TK

Quincy
.....yeah?

Phanteros
Originally posted by Quincy
.....yeah? so he holds alex in TK and holds Cole in TK.

KingD19
He doesn't use two hands for TK, he just focuses and holds them both with one hand. However, as shown in the game, his TK can be blocked with significant force, and people can still move within a set limit. What's to stop Cole from zapping him in the face or Alex from shooting a tendril at him?

Quincy
Originally posted by Phanteros
so he holds alex in TK and holds Cole in TK.

He...holds them? Okay....

So while they are being held, why couldn't Alex just cause a massive spike eruption beneath Starkiller?

Or Cole shoot at him with Multiple Hammerdowns?

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Galen has precog, he can evade. His TK is also strong enough to do serious damage.

Phanteros
Originally posted by Quincy
He...holds them? Okay....

So while they are being held, why couldn't Alex just cause a massive spike eruption beneath Starkiller?

Or Cole shoot at him with Multiple Hammerdowns? i'm pretty sure SK will sense this.

Quincy
Originally posted by Phanteros
i'm pretty sure SK will sense this.

And how'll he avoid it?

ScreamPaste
Ever seen Jedi on the move? Agile sons of a bitchz. He sees it coming before it happens and gtfo's.

Quincy
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Ever seen Jedi on the move? Agile sons of a bitchz. He sees it coming before it happens and gtfo's.

So he runs away?

Can you see how fast Alex Mercer is capable of running? He brushes cars aside.

He TANKS through TANKS for christsakes.

Mercer could keep up with him.

ScreamPaste
Galen deflects lasers with a light saber, and alters the course of star destroyers.

Edit; how is anyone following Starkiller when he has them TK'd?

Edit; He's not running away, he's avoiding damage and killing Mercer.

Quincy
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Galen deflects lasers with a light saber, and alters the course of star destroyers.

Edit; how is anyone following Starkiller when he has them TK'd?

When you say they are "TK'd" you mean, Starkiller has them picked up in the air, with the force?

ScreamPaste
that is what I mean, yes.

Quincy
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
that is what I mean, yes.

Okay...so they are picked up in the air floating around...

While Cole fires off Electrobolts.

That hardly immobilizes them dude.

ScreamPaste
While Starkiller pops their brains? If he can redirect a star destroyer he can pop the head of someone who can be hurt by a tank round.

Quincy
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
While Starkiller pops their brains? If he can redirect a star destroyer he can pop the head of someone who can be hurt by a tank round.

Does he crush people in the game? Or novel?

edit: Does he even Crush the star destroyer? or just move it?

Quincy
stoned

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
So he runs away?

Can you see how fast Alex Mercer is capable of running? He brushes cars aside.

He TANKS through TANKS for christsakes.

Mercer could keep up with him.

Starkiller would own a tank as well. What's stopping him from using The Force and shutting his mind off from his powers? Is Alex above Jedi mind tricks? Are any of them above it?

Wei Phoenix
Also lightning/electricity is useless here against Starkiller since the lightsaber can absorb/block it with ease.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Starkiller would own a tank as well. What's stopping him from using The Force and shutting his mind off from his powers? Is Alex above Jedi mind tricks? Are any of them above it?

Jedi mind tricks only work on the weak minded.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
Jedi mind tricks only work on the weak minded.

So what mental strength feats does Alex and other guy have?

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So what mental strength feats does Alex and other guy have?

Cole does battle with a Psychic. Also another empowered human infects his mind at multiple times in the story, but he is able to force out her influence.

Prototype hasn't come out yet.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Also lightning/electricity is useless here against Starkiller since the lightsaber can absorb/block it with ease.

Guess they'll just have to separate him from his lightsaber.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
Cole does battle with a Psychic. Also another empowered human infects his mind at multiple times in the story, but he is able to force out her influence.

Prototype hasn't come out yet.

Alex easily gets owned by mind tricks at this point and Starkiller just tries harder towards Cole. What feats does this psychic have that puts him above Jedi telepathy?

Phanteros
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Alex easily gets owned by mind tricks at this point and Starkiller just tries harder towards Cole. What feats does this psychic have that puts him above Jedi telepathy? Its a she

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Phanteros
Its a she

Is that it?

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Alex easily gets owned by mind tricks at this point and Starkiller just tries harder towards Cole. What feats does this psychic have that puts him above Jedi telepathy?

Your argument is "he tries harder?"

facepalm

Originally posted by Phanteros
Its a she

There are 2 Psychics (so far at least)

One of whom effortlessly lifts an armored bus off the ground and places is it on top of a building, with the flick of his wrist.

KingD19
Not everyone with access to the Force can use the mind trick, Vader probably didn't even teach it to Galen, since there was no need. And how would Galen avoid an instantaneous ground spike eruption?

jalek moye
Originally posted by Quincy
Your argument is "he tries harder?"

facepalm



There are 2 Psychics (so far at least)

One of whom effortlessly lifts an armored bus off the ground and places is it on top of a building, with the flick of his wrist.
starkiller could do that effortleslly

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
Your argument is "he tries harder?"

facepalm



There are 2 Psychics (so far at least)

One of whom effortlessly lifts an armored bus off the ground and places is it on top of a building, with the flick of his wrist.

Its he tries harder until you prove that this psychic is above Starkiller. He tries harder because it obviously won't be as easy to affect Cole as it would to affect someone with no known mental defense.

That is an example of Telekinesis instead of telepathy and even so Starkiller has better TK feats. Destroyer is greater than bus. What has she done to someone's mind instead of failing to stop/affect Cole.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
Not everyone with access to the Force can use the mind trick, Vader probably didn't even teach it to Galen, since there was no need. And how would Galen avoid an instantaneous ground spike eruption?

Precog tells him its coming and he jumps, or chucks the saber in Alex's throat.

KingD19
Considering how high Starkiller was shown to jump, and how high the spikes erupted from the ground, he would get skewered. And as much damage as Alex is shown taking, I doubt a saber in the throat would down him. And precog doesn't work that way. If it did, every single force power would be able to be dodged or guarded against.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
Considering how high Starkiller was shown to jump, and how high the spikes erupted from the ground, he would get skewered. And as much damage as Alex is shown taking, I doubt a saber in the throat would down him. And precog doesn't work that way. If it did, every single force power would be able to be dodged or guarded against.

Alex's powers aren't equal to nor composed of the same thing that makes force powers.

Has Alex been shown to take damage from something that equals a lightsaber? Explosive damage does not equal the properties/damage of a lightsaber. Whats stopping Starkiller from jumping above him or on top of him unless has been shown to be immune to his own powers.

KingD19
Considering force users are in connection with the Force, they should be able to sense their opponent opening up to the Force, and molding it for an attack. You're saying that when Alex initiates the attack, Starkillers precog will say, he's going to make huge 30 foot tall spikes erupt from the ground, somehow jump high enough to evade them.

And Alex takes getting shot with multiple assault rifles with no problems. If the saber does cause him damage, he can heal. And what's to say that the saber can pierce through his armored form?

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
Considering force users are in connection with the Force, they should be able to sense their opponent opening up to the Force, and molding it for an attack. You're saying that when Alex initiates the attack, Starkillers precog will say, he's going to make huge 30 foot tall spikes erupt from the ground, somehow jump high enough to evade them.

And Alex takes getting shot with multiple assault rifles with no problems. If the saber does cause him damage, he can heal. And what's to say that the saber can pierce through his armored form?

Are you really comparing bullets to a lightsaber? Lightsabers can cut through practically anything, and they've been shown cutting through many things, what has bullets done that makes them equal to a lightsaber?

KingD19
And lightsabers also can't cut through some things, there's a bug/parasite called an Orbalisk, those things that attached to Darth Bane? They can't be cut with a saber, the amphistaffs and armor of the Vong are extremely resistant to sabers, so are several metals, including phrik, cortosis, etc... What's to say Alex's armored form isn't resistant, or totally immune to the lightsaber?

Quincy
Originally posted by jalek moye
starkiller could do that effortleslly

Not the point

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Its he tries harder until you prove that this psychic is above Starkiller. He tries harder because it obviously won't be as easy to affect Cole as it would to affect someone with no known mental defense.

That is an example of Telekinesis instead of telepathy and even so Starkiller has better TK feats. Destroyer is greater than bus. What has she done to someone's mind instead of failing to stop/affect Cole.

I say: Jedi Mind Trick wont work on weak minded

you say: Prove they arent weak minded

I say: Cole forces out psychic influence

you say: He does the Mind Trick harder.


As to their defense, Alex can heal like a bastard, and Cole is capable of healing himself sucking the electricity of anything nearby.

KingD19
The mind trick doesn't work that way, if they are weak willed, it works, but if they aren't, they get pissed at you, lol.

Alex doesn't just heal, he also tanks just about everything, and Cole could absorb the electricity from Galen's saber if he wanted.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
And lightsabers also can't cut through some things, there's a bug/parasite called an Orbalisk, those things that attached to Darth Bane? They can't be cut with a saber, the amphistaffs and armor of the Vong are extremely resistant to sabers, so are several metals, including phrik, cortosis, etc... What's to say Alex's armored form isn't resistant, or totally immune to the lightsaber?

Because of current technology is in no way near Star Wars technology.

Originally posted by Quincy
Not the point



I say: Jedi Mind Trick wont work on weak minded

you say: Prove they arent weak minded

I say: Cole forces out psychic influence

you say: He does the Mind Trick harder.


As to their defense, Alex can heal like a bastard, and Cole is capable of healing himself sucking the electricity of anything nearby.

Yeah as in he would have to try harder to affect Cole than he would Alex.

Alex has no known mental defense so he easily gets held by TK or mind raped.

IIRC a lightsaber isn't powered by electricity.

Quincy
What are his precog feats exactly?

jalek moye
Originally posted by KingD19
The mind trick doesn't work that way, if they are weak willed, it works, but if they aren't, they get pissed at you, lol.

Alex doesn't just heal, he also tanks just about everything, and Cole could absorb the electricity from Galen's saber if he wanted.
since when does eletricty power a saber.

and untill the armor shows it can take somthign comparable to a lightsaber he can be cut by it.

Quincy
Originally posted by jalek moye
since when does eletricty power a saber.

and untill the armor shows it can take somthign comparable to a lightsaber he can be cut by it.

If SK can even get near Alex.

Wei Phoenix
What healing feats does he have outside of gameplay?

KingD19
Orbalisk aren't technology, they're naturally occuring parasitic animals. The Amphistaffs and crab armor are living beings, not technology, all the metal is naturally occuring. None of that is technology, and there is still no proof that the lightsaber can cut through Alex's armored form. There's nothing that proves it can't, but that's not the point.

And yes. lightsabers do use electricity, I can put up a link that shows how they work if you'd like.

And you can't try harder with the mind trick, which is debatable if Starkiller even knows it. Cole resisted an extremely powerful psychic, his is in no way weak minded, and it's clearly stated that the mind trick only works on the weak minded, so it's no use even trying with him.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
If SK can even get near Alex.

Hold him in place and chuck the lightsaber. Any proof he has resistance to TK?

jalek moye
Originally posted by KingD19
Orbalisk aren't technology, they're naturally occuring parasitic animals. The Amphistaffs and crab armor are living beings, not technology, all the metal is naturally occuring. None of that is technology, and there is still no proof that the lightsaber can cut through Alex's armored form. There's nothing that proves it can't, but that's not the point.


if nothing provs it can't then it can. lightsabers can cut through most things, so untill his armor isn't effected by something atleast comparable to one.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
Orbalisk aren't technology, they're naturally occuring parasitic animals. The Amphistaffs and crab armor are living beings, not technology, all the metal is naturally occuring. None of that is technology, and there is still no proof that the lightsaber can cut through Alex's armored form. There's nothing that proves it can't, but that's not the point.

And yes. lightsabers do use electricity, I can put up a link that shows how they work if you'd like.

And you can't try harder with the mind trick, which is debatable if Starkiller even knows it. Cole resisted an extremely powerful psychic, his is in no way weak minded, and it's clearly stated that the mind trick only works on the weak minded, so it's no use even trying with him.

They are advanced life forms to the modern world, thats the point. Any bug in our modern world would get fried by a lightsaber. Has Alex been shown taking anything that had the power output of a Saber out of gameplay? What's Cole's resistance to TK?

KingD19
You're ignoring the fact that a tiny bug, and a snake/staff, and a crab can easily resist the lightsaber. Obviously there won't be anything going up against Alex like a lightsaber, but there's a 50/50 chance that his armor is resistant, or immune to lightsaber damage. Since it protectes him from all other forms of harm.

Using that logic, until Starkiller goes up against someone with Alex's powers, his precog won't work on him.

And truth be told, any modern bug we know of would get fried. There could be a bug out there that generates enough electricity to power jersey for 45 minutes, and is bullet proof, but we ain't found it yet.

And I never said anything about Cole's resistance to TK, it's TP I'm talking about.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What healing feats does he have outside of gameplay?

I just said it.

Sucking Electricity out of anything nearby.

Including people.

jalek moye
Originally posted by KingD19
You're ignoring the fact that a tiny bug, and a snake/staff, and a crab can easily resist the lightsaber. Obviously there won't be anything going up against Alex like a lightsaber, but there's a 50/50 chance that his armor is resistant, or immune to lightsaber damage. Since it protectes him from all other forms of harm.

Using that logic, until Starkiller goes up against someone with Alex's powers, his precog won't work on him.
no because it works on people in general

when dealing with powers a person can't be said to have resistance to it untill they have faced somthing similar

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Hold him in place and chuck the lightsaber. Any proof he has resistance to TK?

If Alex is held, Cole can use his Shockwave to push him free.

Or push SK back.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
You're ignoring the fact that a tiny bug, and a snake/staff, and a crab can easily resist the lightsaber. Obviously there won't be anything going up against Alex like a lightsaber, but there's a 50/50 chance that his armor is resistant, or immune to lightsaber damage. Since it protectes him from all other forms of harm.

Using that logic, until Starkiller goes up against someone with Alex's powers, his precog won't work on him.

And truth be told, any modern bug we know of would get fried. There could be a bug out there that generates enough electricity to power jersey for 45 minutes, and is bullet proof, but we ain't found it yet.

And I never said anything about Cole's resistance to TK, it's TP I'm talking about.

You're ignoring the fact that they aren't of this world, basically alien bugs and stuff. Sabers cut through flesh, metal practically almost everything else. They've cut more things than they couldn't cut.

Originally posted by Quincy
I just said it.

Sucking Electricity out of anything nearby.

Including people.

That's how Alex heals? What did he heal from? Can he heal from decapitation? Is there even electricity around the battlefield?

KingD19
But sabers don't generally work on armor, which Alex has. And if Alex is held, he can shoot out a monstrous amount of tendrils to whip and stab SK.

Cole heals at an advanced rate, and from absorbing electricity(lightsabers and people included), Alex heals at an insane rate, and can absorb people biomass to speed it up even further.

And Sabers haven't cut through some things, Alex is in a way similar to the Vong weaponry, he's a living, shifting weapon. To say his armor is incapable of at least blocking a saber is just wishful thinking.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
If Alex is held, Cole can use his Shockwave to push him free.

Or push SK back.

Yeah Sk can hold both of them at the same time.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by KingD19
But sabers don't generally work on armor, which Alex has. And if Alex is held, he can shoot out a monstrous amount of tendrils to whip and stab SK.

Cole heals at an advanced rate, and from absorbing electricity(lightsabers and people included), Alex heals at an insane rate, and can absorb people biomass to speed it up even further.

Worked on Storm Troopers, Droids, Vader, doors, Jango etc.

jalek moye
Originally posted by KingD19
But sabers don't generally work on armor, which Alex has. And if Alex is held, he can shoot out a monstrous amount of tendrils to whip and stab SK.
actually depends on the armor, they'd slice through modern armor like nothing, They also cut through clone armor.

KingD19
Clone armor? You serious? Clone armor didn't even stop direct blaster shots. And all of those examples are materials that are not durable enough to block a saber. But there's metal and materials that can. And the orbalisks didn't evolve to block lightsabers, they're just that way.

And if he holds them with SK, Cole can still zap him in the face, and Alex can shoot out his tendrils.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That's how Alex heals? What did he heal from? Can he heal from decapitation? Is there even electricity around the battlefield?

I'm talking about Cole.
And it's not just from objects. He can suck the life from people.

From what I know, Alex just auto-heals.

Quincy
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Yeah Sk can hold both of them at the same time.

Dude that doesn't matter! Picked up, who gives a shit, they can still attack.

Cole's shockwave holds the same properties as SK's lift with TK.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
I'm talking about Cole.
And it's not just from objects. He can suck the life from people.

From what I know, Alex just auto-heals.

Yeah that question was for Alex. Has he just autohealed outside of gameplay? Alex's lack of feats makes him the weak link here. You should really wait for the game to come out. Since he has no known mental defense SK can just turn him against Cole making it a 2 on 1.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Quincy
Dude that doesn't matter! Picked up, who gives a shit, they can still attack.

Cole's shockwave holds the same properties as SK's lift with TK.

Sk can keep Alex from attacking easily. If he picks them up then he can BFR them since they can't move, bash them into each other, hold their hands down or around each other's throats. All of those can be done while in his hold.

How does it hold the same properties?

KingD19
He indeed autoheals, and he absorbs people and enemies to heal faster, like Cole absorbs electricity.

And Wei, you can't give him powers he doesn't have, Star Wars(Or Starkillers for that matter) TK isn't advanced to the point where it can control individual functions. You can throw someone, pick them up, etc... Not make them choke each other. And how will he stop Alex's tendrils and spikes, which you keep ignoring.

Quincy
KingD is right, you're ignoring Alex's tendrils, and even his below earth attack.

Hold someone with the TK in Force Unleashed and they float around in the air.

Hit someone with Cole's Shockwave, and they do the same thing.

So Cole could just as simply lift up SK. Plus its 2 on 1.

jalek moye
Originally posted by KingD19
Clone armor? You serious? Clone armor didn't even stop direct blaster shots. And all of those examples are materials that are not durable enough to block a saber. But there's metal and materials that can. And the orbalisks didn't evolve to block lightsabers, they're just that way.

And if he holds them with SK, Cole can still zap him in the face, and Alex can shoot out his tendrils.
yes but none of those material are on earth, which unless after the game comes out he withstands somthign atleast comparable to it. it stands that he more then likly will be cut.

the effect is up for debate though

KingD19
That's what I've been saying, you have no idea if he'll be cut, if he'll tank it, defelct it, whatever, but there is a high chance that he won't be damaged, and if he is, it won't be fatal.

six6six
Well, going by what Alex DOES get damaged by in the game will indicate whether a lightsaber would do some damage on him. Otherwise, if Alex's armor could withstand a lightsaber blow, what the hell can hurt you in the game? It'll be like "god mode" or something. Anyways, the point I think WP was trying to make on the "holding them with TK", is that SK is not just gonna hold them in the air and stare at them. He's gonna slam them in the ground, wall, building or even fling them miles into the air. For instance, let's say SK TK holds one of them, it don't matter who, and throws one away, making it a 1-on-1 for the time being until the other recovers and gets back to the fight. Then he kills them 1 at a time.

Quincy
Originally posted by six6six
For instance, let's say SK TK holds one of them, it don't matter who, and throws one away, making it a 1-on-1 for the time being until the other recovers and gets back to the fight. Then he kills them 1 at a time.

Both Cole and Alex are capable of self propelled flight.

six6six
Originally posted by Quincy
Both Cole and Alex are capable of self propelled flight.

It was just an example. How are they gonna stop from getting slammed?

KingD19
Alex won't really get hurt from being slammed, and Cole can use his shockwave to propel himself away from the surface of whatever he's being thrown at.

six6six
Let's not forget how much punishment SK could take also, he got stabbed all the way through his body by Vader's saber and lived.

NemeBro
This thread should not have lasted this long. erm

Seriously, he TK holds them, and crushes them, Galen Marek wins.

six6six
Originally posted by NemeBro
This thread should not have lasted this long. erm

Seriously, he TK holds them, and crushes them, Galen Marek wins.

That's right. Forgot about the crush thing. SK does it to the AT-ST's. He'd crush them both like pieces of paper.

Quincy
I didn't know he crushed people in the game.

Obsidian Fury
He crushed a walker, so he can crush people, yes.

Quincy
Come to think of it, has anybody in any form of Star Wars media crushed anyone with the force?

That would be sweet.

One could argue that breaking something Metallic is different from splattering organic matter.

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by Quincy
Come to think of it, has anybody in any form of Star Wars media crushed anyone with the force?

That would be sweet.

One could argue that breaking something Metallic is different from splattering organic matter.

Darth Vader crushed a head. Darth Maul a throat. Can't think of more examples right now.

Sure it could be argued, but when you're talking about the Force only one thing matter: Midi-chlorians. No metal and no organic. Just midi-chlorians and no midi-chlorians.


Edit: Although of course, a tougher matter is tougher to destroy, despite midi-chlorians.

Quincy
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
Darth Vader crushed a head. Darth Maul a throat. Can't think of more examples right now.

Sure it could be argued, but when you're talking about the Force only one thing matter: Midi-chlorians. No metal and no organic. Just midi-chlorians and no midi-chlorians.


Edit: Although of course, a tougher matter is tougher to destroy, despite midi-chlorians.

Woah Vader crushed somebody's head? Is there a scan?

ScreamPaste
Luke popped the brain of a space critter, too.

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by Quincy
Woah Vader crushed somebody's head? Is there a scan?

The actual crush was outside panel, but it's an undeniable crush. I guess they didn't want to include all the fine details that come with a head being compressed until it pops.

I can probably get a panel scan still though, if you want it.

Quincy
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
The actual crush was outside panel, but it's an undeniable crush. I guess they didn't want to include all the fine details that come with a head being compressed until it pops.

I can probably get a panel scan still though, if you want it.

Yeah do it.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Luke popped the brain of a space critter, too.

Crushing a bug < Crushing an entire human

ScreamPaste
I was giving another example, sir. Luke became very powerful. Galen Marek can alter the course of crashing star destroyers, he can crush the two in this thread.

Quincy
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
I was giving another example, sir. Luke became very powerful. Galen Marek can alter the course of crashing star destroyers, he can crush the two in this thread.

He can Alter their course if they are falling maybe stoned

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by Quincy
Yeah do it.



Crushing a bug < Crushing an entire human

six6six
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Quincy
I'm confused why they don't do that all the time.

The **** is the point of lightsaber dueling?

ScreamPaste
It's handy because you can oppose the force with your own force.

Quincy
Retarded

What do you push the force out of your head?

ScreamPaste
You use the force. I'm no Jedi, ask Luke.

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by Quincy
Retarded

What do you push the force out of your head?

From my understanding, the Force user is relatively shielded with the Force. Their greatest weapon is also their greatest defense. Here's a scan where Fay protect her heart from being crushed by Ventress with her thoughts.

But as far as I've understood, sabercombat is also a sign of honor. While many can probably kill one another with the Force, they use the lightsaber and duel. I must admit I've never quite understood it, but I'm placing my bets on honor.

ScreamPaste
There have been force duels where they stop each other from doing such things, so I assume they can resist it weith the force, lol. If Yoda went sith, how hilarious that would be. :drool:

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
There have been force duels where they stop each other from doing such things, so I assume they can resist it weith the force, lol. If Yoda went sith, how hilarious that would be. :drool:

Enough to give Count Dooku nightmares. He at one point tried converting Yoda to the dark side. Yoda then showed him a brief sample of how he would be like if he ever did go into darkness (Mental image), and Count Dooku since that day prayed that it would never happen.

ScreamPaste
Exactly. It'd be incredibly epic.

The Valiant
Off-Topic: Has anyone seen the new Star Wars trailer (Star Wars: The Old Republic)?

Obsidian Fury
Anyone who hasn't should hang their head and cry.

Phanteros
Originally posted by The Valiant
Off-Topic: Has anyone seen the new Star Wars trailer (Star Wars: The Old Republic)? is it that new live action show that they are making?

Obsidian Fury
Originally posted by Phanteros
is it that new live action show that they are making?

No. TOR MMORPG.

jylNo5tTiSg

six6six
Originally posted by Obsidian Fury
No. TOR MMORPG.

jylNo5tTiSg

Dude, I'm F'n speachless. That looks like its gonna be out-of-hand!

Prototype,fable
Personaly I don't want to here from u basterds who are hatin on Alex mercer and call him a villen. Alex mercer (prototype), Cole (infamous), sparrow (fable 2), sheperd (mass effect 2), Altair (assassins creed), ezio (assassins creed 2), and delta (bioshock 2) are the best a nd can kill anyone. If u know a charactor who deserves the honor of being a membor of this group please tell me. smokin'

Prototype,fable
Exept starkiller. Starkiller dosnt deserve crap

Darkstorm Zero
Err... Wut?

LLLLLink
Galen wins this. Just my opinion...

ScreamPaste
Originally posted by Prototype,fable
Personaly I don't want to here from u basterds who are hatin on Alex mercer and call him a villen. Alex mercer (prototype), Cole (infamous), sparrow (fable 2), sheperd (mass effect 2), Altair (assassins creed), ezio (assassins creed 2), and delta (bioshock 2) are the best a nd can kill anyone. If u know a charactor who deserves the honor of being a membor of this group please tell me. smokin' ...I can think of many characters who would single handedly kill every character you named, at the same time. erm

Please provide evidence for your posts. Thanx. Also. Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Err... Wut?

Yep.

BloodRain
Sadly there's a difference between badass/coolness and winning against most characters on this thread as Halo fans have learnt the hard way.

Darkstorm Zero
Originally posted by LLLLLink
Galen wins this. Just my opinion...

QFT.

Honestly, dunking Cole in the water, and throwing Mercer into orbit is but a minor feat for Starkiller, and since his reflexes are so much faster and conceivably more accurate, he would get first strike easily, throwing Cole into the middle of the nearest ocean till the guy fizzles himself to death, and launching Alex into orbit where hte living virus freezes to death in an airless vaccum.

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