Joker (Nicholson) vs. Joker (Ledger) vs. Joker (Hamill)

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JakeTheBank
Which Joker wins?

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jrodslam
Cartoon Joker had more resources than probably both live action Jokers combined. He shouldnt even be in this. The man almost killed Superman for petes sake.

If we wanna have a battle between both live action Jokers, then Jacks Joker takes it.

Wild Shadow
Originally posted by jrodslam
Cartoon Joker had more resources than probably both live action Jokers combined. He shouldnt even be in this. The man almost killed Superman for petes sake.

If we wanna have a battle between both live action Jokers, then Jacks Joker takes it.


agreed..

JakeTheBank
You know I could always add this to balance it out:

http://www.freewebs.com/odetojoker/JokerCesar_Romero_.gif

psycho gundam
there's joker from "the batman" also. he'd solo all of them in 30 seconds flat.

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by psycho gundam
there's joker from "the batman" also. he'd solo all of them in 30 seconds flat.

Bah!

Luke Skywalker's Joker would own him.

geshien
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Bah!

Luke Skywalker's Joker would own him.

thumb up

NemeBro
To quote some douchebag whose name I do not remember on this site: "There is only one Joker, and his name is Mark. May the Force be with you."

In a fight, Mark's Joker wins again, but between the two live-action ones, Ledger's would win. Nicholson's Joker was kind of a puss when it came to fighting IMO.

jalek moye
Hamil, he had the mosty resources and the best fighter.

he was also the best version outside of comics

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
In a fight, Mark's Joker wins again, but between the two live-action ones, Ledger's would win. Nicholson's Joker was kind of a puss when it came to fighting IMO.

Yea, but Joker isnt exactly know for his h2h prowess. Jacks Joker had better weaponry on hand.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
Yea, but Joker isnt exactly know for his h2h prowess. Jacks Joker had better weaponry on hand. Ledger's Joker just needs a gun to kill Jack's.

And please do not bring up the big gun.

Gamerr-X
Ive always prefered the cartoon Jokers especially that cartoon one (Hamill). They are always cooler and more insane than when they try to make him on film.

So ill go with Hamill

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ledger's Joker just needs a gun to kill Jack's.

And please do not bring up the big gun.

Jacks Joker wasnt afraid of guns. Plus he had that "aura". And why cant bring up the canon? Hell, Jacks Joker would kill Ledgers with the pen. Ahhhh! Forgot about that one didnt ya?

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
Jacks Joker wasnt afraid of guns. Plus he had that "aura". And why cant bring up the canon? Hell, Jacks Joker would kill Ledgers with the pen. Ahhhh! Forgot about that one didnt ya? He doesn't have to be afraid of them, he'll still die.

The canon takes an ungodly amount of time to prepare.

The pen? Ledger kills Jack with the pencil. no expression

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
He doesn't have to be afraid of them, he'll still die.

The canon takes an ungodly amount of time to prepare.

The pen? Ledger kills Jack with the pencil. no expression

Jacks "aura" will make Ldger miss.

The canon only took longer in the movie was because Bats was so high and so far away. If Ledgers Jokers get show with that thing, help his body is gone. Then again, Jacks Joker could use in in regular mode.erm

Yes the pen. Thats also a ranged attack whereas the pencil is within very close range.

Acid flower too!

starlock
Cartoon Joker wins

If excluded..Jacks Joker stomps!

TricksterPriest
Jack's Joker would get stomped by Ledger's. Better acting, better fighter, better planner and oh yeah. HE DIDN'T DIE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. jokedur

Mindset
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Jack's Joker would get stomped by Ledger's. Better acting, better fighter, better planner and oh yeah. HE DIDN'T DIE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. jokedur You just like Ledger more because he played a gay cowboy, so you feel a connection.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Jack's Joker would get stomped by Ledger's. Better acting, better fighter, better planner and oh yeah. HE DIDN'T DIE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. jokedur jack's joker can't be hit by projectiles though. rockets and gatling rounds locked on can't touch him, even the explosions were useless.

and his durability was good enough to keep his body from exploding after falling something like...100 stories straight down onto concrete.
he was just ko'd.

PRAYERRUN
the Dark Knight Joker wins this. He can fight, and really confuse the heck out of you.

XanatosForever
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You know I could always add this to balance it out:

http://www.freewebs.com/odetojoker/JokerCesar_Romero_.gif

That Joker is a joke. All he ever did was fight Adam West in a gray suit. erm

PRAYERRUN
Originally posted by XanatosForever
That Joker is a joke. All he ever did was fight Adam West in a gray suit. erm yeah agreed.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by XanatosForever
That Joker is a joke. All he ever did was fight Adam West in a gray suit. erm Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
yeah agreed.

And? Adam West is the real Batman.

PRAYERRUN
Yeah and all I remember is Adam West punching everybody else in the head a million times over. That Joker took a really pounding.

jrodslam
Originally posted by psycho gundam
jack's joker can't be hit by projectiles though. rockets and gatling rounds locked on can't touch him, even the explosions were useless.

and his durability was good enough to keep his body from exploding after falling something like...100 stories straight down onto concrete.
he was just ko'd.

Haha! QFT.

Also, Ledgers Joker was a bluffer. Jacks Joker was way more psychotic and was always going for the kill.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Jack's Joker would get stomped by Ledger's. Better acting, better fighter, better planner and oh yeah. HE DIDN'T DIE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE. jokedur yes he did. naughty

JakeTheBank
Originally posted by psycho gundam
yes he did. naughty

You're terrible...but correct in a sense.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
Jacks "aura" will make Ldger miss.

The canon only took longer in the movie was because Bats was so high and so far away. If Ledgers Jokers get show with that thing, help his body is gone. Then again, Jacks Joker could use in in regular mode.erm

Yes the pen. Thats also a ranged attack whereas the pencil is within very close range.

Acid flower too! Aura...Refresh my memory, was this "aura" actually part of his powerset, or dumb luck? Because if it is the latter, no PIS rule sir.

2. And Ledger's Joker who was shown to actively use firearms can pull out said firearm and shoot Jack.

3. It was a mild joke. All Ledger needs is a gun.

4. Okay this gimmick shit is getting old...Ledger shoots Jack, the end. Having wacky gimmicks=/=being an effective fighter.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
Haha! QFT.

Also, Ledgers Joker was a bluffer. Jacks Joker was way more psychotic and was always going for the kill. Ledger's Joker was far more psychotic and deranged. He killed countless people at a whim and with not even a slight disturbance in his(rather disinterested at times) facial expression. He only spares Batman because he is "fun."

NemeBro
Originally posted by psycho gundam
jack's joker can't be hit by projectiles though. rockets and gatling rounds locked on can't touch him, even the explosions were useless.

and his durability was good enough to keep his body from exploding after falling something like...100 stories straight down onto concrete.
he was just ko'd. 1. Once again, actual power, or dumb luck?

2. Yet hurt his hand when he punched Batman, and was likewise knocked around by him like a doll and bled like a pig from one punch.

KingD19
Ledger was actually going to kill everyone in the hospital, after he killed that guard with no remorse. And he was shown to be a very talented fighter, and he would shoot Jack in the face, then ask, WHY SO SERIOUS???!!!!

Plus, how can this thread even exist? It's two movie characters and a cartoon.

jalek moye
Hamil beats both at the same time

NemeBro
Originally posted by jalek moye
Hamil beats both at the same time Indeed.

If I remember right wasn't he shown to hold his own against Batman in a pure H2H fight in that Batman Beyond movie?

jalek moye
yea, he also has gotten the better of batman in a few episodes, and i think he actually beat him once.

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
Aura...Refresh my memory, was this "aura" actually part of his powerset, or dumb luck? Because if it is the latter, no PIS rule sir.

2. And Ledger's Joker who was shown to actively use firearms can pull out said firearm and shoot Jack.

3. It was a mild joke. All Ledger needs is a gun.

4. Okay this gimmick shit is getting old...Ledger shoots Jack, the end. Having wacky gimmicks=/=being an effective fighter.

1. Call it whatever you want. Bats was locked on, and Jack didnt move one bit.

2. Yea and Ledgers Joker had trouble hitting a moving target.erm Jacks Joker appeared to have better aim at least.

3. See above.

4. Gimmick shit? The flower had a rang of at least 5 feet. Jacks Joker also had the hand buzzer. It would be a wrap for Ledgers Joker. Effective fighter? Didnt Ledgers Joker only get Bats on the floor after he was distracted?

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ledger's Joker was far more psychotic and deranged. He killed countless people at a whim and with not even a slight disturbance in his(rather disinterested at times) facial expression. He only spares Batman because he is "fun."

What? Far more psychotic and deranged? Jacks Joker killed tons of people in the movie. The man made a chemical and poisoned an entire batch of products that hundreds of people used and were already exposed to without even knowing it. Then, he had the balls to go on tv and tell ppl. Threw a parade to give away money, yet killed many of those same people at the same time. Please les not compare body counts because Jacks Joker wins by a nice margin in that department.

jrodslam
Originally posted by KingD19
Ledger was actually going to kill everyone in the hospital, after he killed that guard with no remorse. And he was shown to be a very talented fighter, and he would shoot Jack in the face, then ask, WHY SO SERIOUS???!!!!

Plus, how can this thread even exist? It's two movie characters and a cartoon.

NO, Ledger was NOT going to kill everyone in the hospital. It was all part of him plan. He WANTED them to get evacuated just so he can get close to Harvey. Wait wait. He was shown to be a talented fighter? Are you serious? A talented? Jacks would shoot Ledgers Joker just because his smile was phony.

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Once again, actual power, or dumb luck?

2. Yet hurt his hand when he punched Batman, and was likewise knocked around by him like a doll and bled like a pig from one punch.

Note: Keatons Batman was both stronger and had a more durable suit than Bales. Id put money that Ledgers Joker would hurt his hand as well.

Kaos sebaceous
Originally posted by jrodslam
Note: Keatons Batman was both stronger and had a more durable suit than Bales. Id put money that Ledgers Joker would hurt his hand as well.
Keaton has a more durable suit than bales?.......did you see bales it looked sick

jrodslam
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
Keaton has a more durable suit than bales?.......did you see bales it looked sick

Having a better look is one thing, sir.

occultdestroyer
Very strange vs. match.

Anyways, between the 2 movie versions, Jack wins.
He had a more killing instinct, and far greater durability.
Killed hundreds of people with those poisonous cosmetics, and survived falling from a building.

And yes, Mark Hamill omfgwtfpwns them both.

xJLxKing
Joker as Ledge beat any other Movie version of Joker. The cartoon version kill them all though.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by Kaos sebaceous
Keaton has a more durable suit than bales?.......did you see bales it looked sick

So the cosmetics of the suit determines durability?

Originally posted by jrodslam
NO, Ledger was NOT going to kill everyone in the hospital. It was all part of him plan. He WANTED them to get evacuated just so he can get close to Harvey. Wait wait. He was shown to be a talented fighter? Are you serious? A talented? Jacks would shoot Ledgers Joker just because his smile was phony.

IIRC Joker's only h2h feats would be beating a cop off screen, hitting Batman with a lead pipe while he was distracted and owning some random goon with a pencil.

mastagambit
Jack's Joker wins.
The hand buzzer,the acid flower,the pen. What does Ledger Joker have? The 'Why so serious' quote?

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
1. Call it whatever you want. Bats was locked on, and Jack didnt move one bit.

2. Yea and Ledgers Joker had trouble hitting a moving target.erm Jacks Joker appeared to have better aim at least.

3. See above.

4. Gimmick shit? The flower had a rang of at least 5 feet. Jacks Joker also had the hand buzzer. It would be a wrap for Ledgers Joker. Effective fighter? Didnt Ledgers Joker only get Bats on the floor after he was distracted? 1. Dumb luck. Not applicable in a vs. match.

2. Ledger's Joker only had trouble hitting an armored car in a high-speed chase...

3. See above.

4. FIVE FEET? HOLY SHIT!!! A gun has a range of...Well it really does not matter, more than five feet. As for the hand buzzer...That involves getting close to Ledger, which is not good for Jack. Yeah. And Jack's only H2H feat is hurting his hand while punching Batman.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
What? Far more psychotic and deranged? Jacks Joker killed tons of people in the movie. The man made a chemical and poisoned an entire batch of products that hundreds of people used and were already exposed to without even knowing it. Then, he had the balls to go on tv and tell ppl. Threw a parade to give away money, yet killed many of those same people at the same time. Please les not compare body counts because Jacks Joker wins by a nice margin in that department. Ledger for the lulz kidnapped and tortured a fat Batman wannabe before hanging him from a rope dead to frighten Gotham and send a message to Batman. He was forcing two ships, one of inmates, one of normal citizens including small children, to make a decision to kill everyone in the other ship, and if they did not make a choice within I think thirty minutes, he destroyed both ships. Jack could never claim to have fvcked with so many people's minds in that way, nor has he done something so deranged. He made hostages appear to be armed guards, who were basically going to be meat-bags, and his real henchmen were disguised as hostages. That is being deranged. Jack has NOTHING on this in terms of being deranged and morally deprived.

NemeBro
Originally posted by jrodslam
Note: Keatons Batman was both stronger and had a more durable suit than Bales. Id put money that Ledgers Joker would hurt his hand as well. Stronger? Bale's Batman through Ras Al Ghul with one arm, Liam Neeson weighs about 200 pounds. Keaton takes beatings from normal thugs. Bale beats down trained martial artist ninjaz. More durable suit? How?

psycho gundam
anti-aircraft buster pistol ftw

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jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Dumb luck. Not applicable in a vs. match.

2. Ledger's Joker only had trouble hitting an armored car in a high-speed chase...

3. See above.

4. FIVE FEET? HOLY SHIT!!! A gun has a range of...Well it really does not matter, more than five feet. As for the hand buzzer...That involves getting close to Ledger, which is not good for Jack. Yeah. And Jack's only H2H feat is hurting his hand while punching Batman.

1. I dont know what to call it, but i wouldnt call it luck. That shit was.....aura ish, lol.

2. The case wasnt that highspeed, but i can let that one go.

3. See, thing is, Jacks Joker had a gun to. Thus saying Ledgers Joker just shoots Jacks Joker can go the other way as well. Im just bringing up other weapons Jacks Joker had on hand. As far as Jacks Joker hurting his hand, ive already addressed that. Im sure Ledgers Joker would hurt his hand just the same.

psycho gundam
don't knock the hand buzzer on roids, that thing completely desiccated that crime boss guy in 10 seconds flat. and the guy was useless in terms of defense once it was activated, ledger would be done if he made skin contact with it.

he also had; the acid spraying flower that had decent range; the portable flame throwing zippo; teh collapsible bustah gun; and a fake hand and teeth (shut up, it was useful)

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ledger for the lulz kidnapped and tortured a fat Batman wannabe before hanging him from a rope dead to frighten Gotham and send a message to Batman. He was forcing two ships, one of inmates, one of normal citizens including small children, to make a decision to kill everyone in the other ship, and if they did not make a choice within I think thirty minutes, he destroyed both ships. Jack could never claim to have fvcked with so many people's minds in that way, nor has he done something so deranged. He made hostages appear to be armed guards, who were basically going to be meat-bags, and his real henchmen were disguised as hostages. That is being deranged. Jack has NOTHING on this in terms of being deranged and morally deprived.

Speaking of for the lulz. Jacks Joker saw that Bats was getting a bunch of attention in the press. He decided to put chemicals in an entire batch of city used products just to kill people slowly. Out of attraction, he killed an entire museum/restaurant to to get close to a woman. Ledgers Joker wanted to put fear into people and try to prove that ppl are like him in ways, and he HOPED theyd kill each other. He depended on it, whereas Jacks Joker would have just killed them.

Jacks Joker couldnt mess with peoples minds? Not to long after killing a man in cold blood with the press there, in public, in daytime, the man interrupted the mayors/harveys speech and made the people go against Bats. He made them get on his side. Told them he was giving away a million dollars in a celebration. Made the people trust him, just in turn to try and kill them all and get at Bats at the same time. The thing Ledgers Joker did with the guards was a nice tactic, however not many ppl knew about that. Imagine sitting down and watching the new with your family and the news broadcaster starts laughing after her partners mentions ppl dying? Then she continues to laugh hysterically until she has a permanent smile and dies? Just for everyone to see. That my friend is more deranged than anything Ledgers Joker did. To know that my hair, face and body products have been tainted and ive already started to use it? Lol.

Wei Phoenix
Nicholson's Joker had the balls to unmask himself on tv and call out Batman. Ledger didn't.

jrodslam
Originally posted by NemeBro
Stronger? Bale's Batman through Ras Al Ghul with one arm, Liam Neeson weighs about 200 pounds. Keaton takes beatings from normal thugs. Bale beats down trained martial artist ninjaz. More durable suit? How?

Yup, stronger. In the beginning on the movie, Keatons Batman took the guy and held him at the edge of the building ledge. The man had to have weighed over 200lbs. Also, at the end, when he and Vale were holding on the the side of the building and Vale got tricked by Jokers fake hand, Bats with one hand, caught her and lifter her up so she can get her grip again. All while holding on with one hand himself. Keaton takes beatings from normal thungs? Some of Jokers thugs actually had skill(guy with swords in alley, black dude in church tower). More durable suit for the fact that he took point black gun shots. For the fact that he had armored areas when he could deflect both bullets and swords. He wasnt effected by body blows at all. He crashed in his plane. had it explode, just to walk out of it with only a minor face bruise.

jrodslam
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Nicholson's Joker had the balls to unmask himself on tv and call out Batman. Ledger didn't. '

Actually, Jacks Joker put makeup on when he went on tv. His skin was actually chalk white, but to deceive the people, he covered it up with makeup and told them that he took it off.

Wei Phoenix
Originally posted by jrodslam
'

Actually, Jacks Joker put makeup on when he went on tv. His skin was actually chalk white, but to deceive the people, he covered it up with makeup and told them that he took it off.

Wait that's even more bad ass then.

jrodslam
Now this is deranged.

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Wei Phoenix
I do agree that killing with laughter and killing them slowly while they don't even know they're dying is more deranged than killing through fear or giving people the choice to kill others. Ledger seemed to want to turn Gotham on themselves. Jack seemed to want to have fun and kill off Gotham for his own enjoyment.

psycho gundam
jack's joker did it for the lulz

HueyFreeman
If hamils joker is out than Jack for me. That pen technique is no joker, "Bob its your uncle bingo, time to pay the check "

JakeTheBank
Bump for the lulz

shokosugi
Jack Nicholson will always be the best joker. EVER.

chomperx9
for awhile everyone was posting heath ledger the best joker ever. now its back to nicholson all of a sudden

King Kandy
I prefer Ledger's by a mile, to be honest. The only real good portrayal of him outside of comics imo.

SWblayde938
animated joker stomps....


if its a fight between live acton jack wins it....

AsbestosFlaygon
TBH, Jack was closer to the comic version of the Joker..

The things he did in the movie is something the comics version would do

redhotrash
They were just 2 different visions of the same character, neither was wrong exactly. I preferred Ledger's more psychotic looking joker to Jack's neatly trimmed and maticulous joker. Both are insane, I just enjoyed the anarchist one more than the rising crime lord.

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