Terminator 5: News, Rumors, and Speculation

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barand1
Here are some news headlines/articles regarding Terminator 5...

Next Terminator movie set in Modern Day set in London, T-1000 returns and the introduction of Time Travel. Click here for the latest so far.

barand1
Studio fights for the franchise

With the Memorial Day weekend opening of "Terminator Salvation" looming, the future of the franchise has become intriguing.

"Terminator" is the only franchise in which the distributors aren't locked in for future films.

MGM has a 30-day right of first refusal to finance and distribute the fifth "Terminator" film, a right earned through the settlement of a lawsuit between the studio and Halcyon partners Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. According to sources, MGM has every intention of making a serious play for the franchise, potentially trumping Warner Bros., which is distributing "Terminator Salvation" in domestic territories, and Sony, which is releasing the film overseas.

The distribution drama promises to be a real cliffhanger that will begin once Halcyon delivers its demands to MGM along with a first draft of the screenplay for the fifth "Terminator."

Continues here.

barand1
10 Things We Demand From ‘Terminator 5′

So Terminator Salvation has come and perhaps very soon will be gone. May is a hard month for repeat customers and next week’s release of Up may limit some Terminator action. That said, the Christian Bale/Sam Worthington vehicle managed to pull in more than $67 million and The Halcyon Corporation has already started the wheels turning on the sequel which may land as early as 2011. Despite how hard several of us Rejects have been on the film, we’re all for a sequel. We love us the Apocalypse and robotic assassins. But if they’re going to make this movie, they better make it right. Thus, we have compiled a list of demands that must be met to ensure success.

Continues here.

SpyCspider
very good read. The responses are good too.

Yea, I really hate how movies make post-apocalyptic scenes now..the coloring, the people, ugh. It's always some drab yellowish brown and people looking like they weren't survivors of the future, but primitive tribes from the past. It's fine in one movie...stop copying the same formula in every other movie.

We need the dark blue back. With red lasers streaming everywhere.

barand1
Yeah and no people with perfect white teeth stick out tongue

roughrider
Originally posted by barand1
10 Things We Demand From ‘Terminator 5′

So Terminator Salvation has come and perhaps very soon will be gone. May is a hard month for repeat customers and next week’s release of Up may limit some Terminator action. That said, the Christian Bale/Sam Worthington vehicle managed to pull in more than $67 million and The Halcyon Corporation has already started the wheels turning on the sequel which may land as early as 2011. Despite how hard several of us Rejects have been on the film, we’re all for a sequel. We love us the Apocalypse and robotic assassins. But if they’re going to make this movie, they better make it right. Thus, we have compiled a list of demands that must be met to ensure success.

Continues here.

Article is dated before the film dropped like a rock at the box office in consecutive weeks. Writers at CHUD are already of the opinion the series is over.

barand1
Originally posted by roughrider
Article is dated before the film dropped like a rock at the box office in consecutive weeks. Writers at CHUD are already of the opinion the series is over.

I really hope not sad

roughrider
Originally posted by barand1
I really hope not sad

I believe it is over...in a way.

The best option now is to reboot - start over like so many other series have done. It's paid off terrifically for James Bond, Batman & Star Trek; others will be following.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by roughrider
Article is dated before the film dropped like a rock at the box office in consecutive weeks. Writers at CHUD are already of the opinion the series is over. Agreed. I just read their article, and I can't help but agree that the first script's ending, without the "Project Angel" crap, along with a combination of Salvation's story and the original story would have been a much, much better movie. It does seem like McG and Nolan were just rewriting scene by scene while on the set, rather than just sitting down and fixing what was wrong with the script in the first place.

I just don't see how they can fix this franchise without completely rebooting it.

Shadow_King
I think they should just get this series over with, make the next 2 movies and finally bury this series.

barand1
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Agreed. I just read their article, and I can't help but agree that the first script's ending, without the "Project Angel" crap, along with a combination of Salvation's story and the original story would have been a much, much better movie. It does seem like McG and Nolan were just rewriting scene by scene while on the set, rather than just sitting down and fixing what was wrong with the script in the first place.

I just don't see how they can fix this franchise without completely rebooting it.

I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know.

I really hope there is a part 5 in the Termiantor mythology. Things can become good again.

'There is no fate for what we make'.



Originally posted byroughrider
The best option now is to reboot - start over like so many other series have done. It's paid off terrifically for James Bond, Batman & Star Trek; others will be following.

Just because those movies work doesn't mean that the Termiantor needs to be remade. It's had it's reboot with Salvation. That attitude is what is wrong with Hollywood today. I can't believe fans are even considering the option. Some things should just be left alone.

roughrider
Originally posted by barand1
I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know.

I really hope there is a part 5 in the Termiantor mythology. Things can become good again.

'There is no fate for what we make'.





Just because those movies work doesn't mean that the Termiantor needs to be remade. It's had it's reboot with Salvation. That attitude is what is wrong with Hollywood today. I can't believe fans are even considering the option. Some things should just be left alone.

They turn to rebooting when things go so bad with the series, that there isn't a way out. Terminator is getting stuck in the morass of time travel paradoxes. And when your films do poor to sub par business - see Batman and Robin & Star Trek Nemesis, in addition to Terminator Salvation - you really should just go back to the beginning.
Salvation may be considered a reboot of sorts, but instead it's coming off like a huge misfire. Try again.

Darth Macabre
Originally posted by barand1
I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know. Yeah, the whole Marcus is Connor thing is kind of annoying, it basically means that humans needed a machine to win the war for them: something I do not appreciate being that Kyle was such a soldier in the original Terminator. I also like the fact that Connor was on the sub, I think that would have been great and would have allowed the franchise to continue its growth: meaning at the end of Salvation, Connor would have shown himself and everyone would have been like "Its John Connor!" and instead of retreating back to his sub, Connor would have been on the front lines now, just as we saw him in the flashbacks of T2.


I wish that Terminator didn't have to be rebooted, but I would rather have the series continuing rather than it being completely finished, like what seems to be happening after Salvation failed. Its unfortunate, really, because Terminator was the best movie out of them all, I enjoyed it a lot more than T2, and I don't see how they could make a better movie than the original.

barand1
Bale, McG 'not discussed Terminator 5'

Christian Bale has admitted that he and director McG have not discussed the possibility of a sequel to this summer’s Terminator Salvation.

The Public Enemies star indicated that he is not contractually obliged to involve himself in a follow-up, however, he said that he would reprise his role of John Connor if McG can develop the right screenplay, Sci Fi Wire reports.

Bale said: "We've had no talks about it or discussions about it. It all purely depends upon script."

McG had previously revealed that he had two more Terminator instalments planned, the first of which could take place in a modern-day setting.

Terminator Salvation has grossed a worldwide total of $320 million.

Public Enemies opens in cinemas next month.


Digital Spy

Darth Macabre
Yeah after reading that, it's not happening.

barand1
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Yeah after reading that, it's not happening.

Thanks for ruining my year.

BruceSkywalker
I knew, I knew it


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BrentSprecher/news/?a=9155

Darth Martin
You weren't the only one.........

barand1
Ooh, I'm glad it's still going ahead (for now). Found this; McG repeating, recently, what he told us back in May:


"I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a 2011. John Connor is going to travel back in time and he's going to have to galvanize the militaries of the world for an impending SkyNet invasion. They've figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you're going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be (expletive removed) awesome. I also think he's going to meet a scientist that's going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick , talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves.

Full article here.

BruceSkywalker
Originally posted by barand1
Ooh, I'm glad it's still going ahead (for now). Found this; McG repeating, recently, what he told us back in May:


"I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a 2011. John Connor is going to travel back in time and he's going to have to galvanize the militaries of the world for an impending SkyNet invasion. They've figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you're going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be (expletive removed) awesome. I also think he's going to meet a scientist that's going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick , talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves.

Full article here.

i read that.. great read

Doctor-Alvis
It sounds like like it could be mistake for a Starcraft movie. Futuristic machinery, possibly coming out of portals, a relatively crude army fighting them back.

barand1
McG Plans to Put "Fun" Back Into the Terminator Franchise

At Thursday's Television Critics Assocation awards, controversial director McG confirmed that he would be returning to the Terminator franchise that he helped relaunch with this year's Terminator Salvation. Salvation under-performed at the box office, and McG admitted that his film was missing an essential ingredient that original Terminator director, James Cameron, added to the mix.

"I think the film missed some of the fun that Jim brought to the early pictures. I'm a disciple of Jim ... and clearly I didn't do a good enough job on that picture and I didn't satisfy the fanbase to the degree that I would expect to satisfy them. And I take that very seriously and I just work that much more diligently to make sure I do that in the next one."

McG also said that he realized that the film's storyline suffered because of the lack of a central antagonist and the fact that the story was too divided between Christian Bale's character, John Connor, and Sam Worthington's character, Marcus Wright.

"We want to put more meat on the bone because we have the great Christian Bale, but I take a lot of satisfaction in playing a role in breaking the great Sam Worthington, who I think is one of the best actors out there."

Taken from ReelzChannel.com.

barand1
'Terminator' rights owner seeks Ch. 11

A Halcyon Co. subsidiary that owns the rights to the "Terminator" franchise is seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

T Asset Acquisition said in an announcement Tuesday that it had commenced reorganization proceedings in federal bankruptcy court in Los Angeles and will seek to restructure its financial obligations and emerge from Chapter 11 later this year or early next year.

The bankruptcy announcement came a day after Halcyon sued the Pacificor hedge fund and one of its former employees alleging financial wrongdoing in a pair of suits in connection with "Terminator Salvation," accusing the defendants of taking advantage of their knowledge of Halcyon's confidential business information.

Dominion Group, owned by Halcyon toppers Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek, accused Pacificor of wrongfully filing a lien on Dominion's assets to block it from obtaining financing for Halcyon.

Santa Barbara-based Pacificor provided the financing for Halcyon's acquisition of the motion picture and related rights to the "Terminator" franchise in May 2007. It's denied any wrongdoing.

One Man Kru
I am a hip hop artist and a pro-wrestler, so I understand the psychology of telling a story. Personally, I am one of the biggest fans of the Terminator franchise. I thought Terminator Salvation definitely was a shot in the arm. Sure, the picture had a few flaws, but so did ALL of the others. People need to quirt bickering about what makes sense and what doesn't, because sending a soldier back through time to bust a nut in your mom to insure your own existence doesn't make any sense either. It's "science fiction/horror/action" (key word is fiction). Here's what I, as a fan, believe should happen in Terminator 5 if they choose to go the time travel route:

T-5 should start out like T-2 did...show us the future in the beginning of the film, give us 10 to 15 (maybe 20) minutes of a direct sequel to Terminator Salvation, show us suffering, the desperation of mankind, the prison camps with the "human disposal units", show us Connor and Reese intercepting data and discovering skynet's plan to terminate the resistance via time travel (sending the first T-1000 prototype). Show us how they find the equipment, with Reese volunteering to go back to warn the world, but Connor refuses, gives Reese a picture of Sarah Connor (he doesn't "know why at the time"wink, puts Reese at the controls of the time displacement equipment, sending Connor back through time, and in that desperate act, Reese gets caught and sent to the prison camp where he got the barcode on his arm. Show the present day with a naked John Connor falling out of the sky, and being arrested for multiple crimes stemming from his desperation to speak to the scientist who "accidentally" develops the T-1000 in the future. Like Kyle Reese in the first picture, everybody think's Connor's a flake that needs to be contained. Skynet sends the first T-1000 prototype (not played by Robert Patrick) to kill Connor and all the survivors of Judgement Day. Robert Patrick's scientist character is the only one "crazy enough" to believe Connor, so he helps Connor escape police custody to "expose and destroy" the T-1000. And at the very end, Robert Patrick's "obsessed with youth" scientist character secures a sample of liquid metal from the T-1000 prototype for his own selfish reasons, and betrays John Connor, thus, getting him committed to an insane asylum.

barand1
Follwing taken from Comingsoon.net

The Los Angeles Times has a lengthy and extensive report on the status of Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek's Halcyon Holdings, who bought the rights to the "Terminator" franchise for $25 million in 2007 in order to produce this summer's Terminator Salvation, but who have now hired the financial advisory firm FTI Capital Advisors to look into their options, having filed for bankruptcy. The thought is that the sale of the rights to the franchise could help make the production company solvent again.

For much of the earlier part of the year, there was a lot of talk about there being a Terminator 5, mostly coming from McG, but the poor reaction and box office showing of "Salvation," at least domestically didn't seem to warrant another installment.

The Los Angeles Times report, which you can read here gets further into the history of the franchise, how the rights have changed hands over the 25 years since James Cameron's original movie, as well as some of the debts owed by Halcyon and the various lawsuits surrounding their bankruptcy.

Ahnold
Oh dear ... it seems that we're in for yet another looong wait before the next Terminator instalment sees the light of day (if it even ever does). Whatever happens, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if McG gets the boot, and John Connor gets re-cast for a third time. Sigh ... why does the making of these films have to be so damned complicated?

Between this, the lukewarm reception to "T4", and the cancellation of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles", it hasn't really been a great year for the franchise, has it?

barand1
Originally posted by Ahnold
Between this, the lukewarm reception to "T4", and the cancellation of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles", it hasn't really been a great year for the franchise, has it?

It hasn't, which is sad (obviously). I'm not sure what really has started happening to this franchise. Salvation could of put things back on track, but it became slightly derailed. It's obviously not the same without Cameron, nor with Schwarzenegger. I hope it isn't the end of any possible Terminator movies, but I fear - dare I say - a reboot on the horizon.

Ahnold
I was wondering how long it would be before someone mentioned the dreaded "R" word sad . That may one day come to pass; but, for now at least, I feel they owe it to the fans to complete the story told over the course of the last four films (and 25 years!) in a meaningful and satisfying way ...

Ahnold
And if Jim Cameron can be the man to do that, then so much the better smile .

barand1
Disney's watery, literary epic 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: Captain Nemo has been put in dry dock, leaving director McG looking for a new project.

So what next for McG? He remains attached to Terminator 5, with the slight hitch that Terminator 5 is not currently attached to anything else while the rights are auctioned off.

Full article over at Empire

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