Alien prequel

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steverules_2
Seems a 5th alien film is on the way

jaden101
http://coreygilmore.com/uploads/2007/08/beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

MildPossession
Ha ha. Steve you silly boy, there is a science fiction section, AND there is already stuff on it I believe. *whips Steve*.

steverules_2
Well even if there it isn't in this section 131

MildPossession
Your topic has moved. stick out tongue

Kazenji
Carl Rinsch is'nt in the directors chair now

Ridley is

MildPossession
Oo very nice.

jinXed by JaNx
I still insist that this franchise needs to break away from the established films but as an Alien fan this is incredible news. I'm skeptical about the chosen writer but hearing that Ridely has officially confirmed his return answers one of my big wishes. I just hope the other rumors that say there will be no Xenomorph aren't true.

Prince Nauj
Is Ripley gonna be part of this?

steverules_2
Originally posted by Prince Nauj
Is Ripley gonna be part of this?

It's a prequel....alien was the first time she encountered the xenomorph wink

Prince Nauj
Originally posted by steverules_2
It's a prequel....alien was the first time she encountered the xenomorph wink
sad ok then

I wanted to see her in the undies ninja

steverules_2
Originally posted by Prince Nauj
sad ok then

I wanted to see her in the undies ninja

Why did you think Ripley would be in the prequel if you've seen the original? confused

omgchos
Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I still insist that this franchise needs to break away from the established films but as an Alien fan this is incredible news. I'm skeptical about the chosen writer but hearing that Ridely has officially confirmed his return answers one of my big wishes. I just hope the other rumors that say there will be no Xenomorph aren't true.
What would movie be about then? If no aliens are to be in it.

Robtard
Originally posted by omgchos
What would movie be about then? If no aliens are to be in it.

Illegal aliens, from the Southern borders?

Prince Nauj
Originally posted by steverules_2
Why did you think Ripley would be in the prequel if you've seen the original? confused
I dont know just. You never know stick out tongue

steverules_2
Originally posted by Prince Nauj
I dont know just. You never know stick out tongue

Think with a prequel you would sly Maybe Miss Weaver will make a cameo of some kind or her name will be mentioned.

ToyChop
I'd love to see the backstory of that giant alien (the OTHER alien) cargo ship, the one that was giving a "STAY AWAY!" signal. That crazy barrel-chested-nose-connects-to-chest alien sitting in the turret (radar dish?) was creepy-cool...I wanna see what one looks like walking around.

Hmmm...actually, I think there was an 'Alien' comic from way back when--a Dark Horse comic--that featured one of those aliens up and about, but I don't remember being impressed by it. I'd wanna see how a film would treat 'em.

steverules_2
Well it was called space jockey for some reason...

Alpha Centauri
Ridley Scott wouldn't have signed on if it was gonna be nothing more than bludgeoning a deceased equidae based mammal.

-AC

Rogue Jedi
There were a few Alien EU novels, I quite enjoyed them.

steverules_2
Yeah they bought out some pretty good stuff smile I may buy a few Alien graphic novels from eBay smile

coolmovies
So Riddly scott tells us where the eggs came from in the prequel and why there is a space jockey?

steverules_2
Apparantly...the Space Jockey was dropping them off on planets to kill the enhabitants of the planet but...it clearly went wrong. The race is one that wanted to protect the humans and wanted to co-exist with them...thats why the the beacon was warning the ship that ripley was on to stay away.

Kazenji
Originally posted by steverules_2
Yeah they bought out some pretty good stuff smile I may buy a few Alien graphic novels from eBay smile

The new Aliens comic is pretty good so far.

steverules_2
Originally posted by Kazenji
The new Aliens comic is pretty good so far.

Whats the new one called?

Kazenji
Aliens

only 2 issues in at the moment.

-Pr-
Originally posted by Kazenji
Aliens

only 2 issues in at the moment.

aye. its been good too imo...

steverules_2
Originally posted by Kazenji
Aliens

only 2 issues in at the moment.

Really? It's just called that? It's gonna be difficult to get it on ebay since that could bring up a number of results

Kazenji
Could try setting it to books and then put Aliens in and then go looking for comics.

steverules_2
Yeah I found it eventually...looks good smile

The Nuul
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/295309/official_ridley_scott_to_direct_new_alien_movie.html

Kazenji
Well duh he is confirmed

what i posted on page 1 pretty much said that

steverules_2
I'm glad they got Ridley Scott back, I'd rather have him or James Cameron behind the wheel of this movie

The Nuul
Are they still going with the idea of no Alien in this movie?

steverules_2
If they are it's a bad idea

coolmovies
I allways wanted to know where the eggs came from .

coolmovies
my fav shot from alien

steverules_2
Any reason why?

coolmovies
becosue they dont make movies like these anymore

SnakeEyes
I still maintain that they should have NO humans in this film, just aliens. Of course the studio probably wouldn't go for that, even though it'd be awesome.

steverules_2
But wouldn't that be an entire movie with no...speaking?

Kazenji
Its one half of the first avp movie again....

steverules_2
Oh joy

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by steverules_2
But wouldn't that be an entire movie with no...speaking?

You don't need dialogue to tell a good story. Or if they really wanted, they could subtitle the Aliens' noises. Either way, I don't want to go to another Alien movie, like I did with AVP and AVP:R, and get a movie less about aliens and more about shitty, shallow, boring, uninteresting human characters. It's time for something different.

steverules_2
I'm watching AvP:R right now sly But even with humans the movie could be good

SnakeEyes
The movie COULD be good with humans, that's true. I just wanna see something different.

And what does that face mean? AVP: Requiem is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

-Pr-
i wish we could have another movie with marines and aliens. there's plenty of stuff they could do, so it doesnt have to be like the second movie...

coolmovies
They should leave it as it is

steverules_2
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
The movie COULD be good with humans, that's true. I just wanna see something different.

And what does that face mean? AVP: Requiem is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

Just means it's ironic how you bought up AvP:R as I was watching it smile I didn't think it was that bad, was better than the first one erm Which isn't very hard

darthmaul1
umm no humans would suck there would be absolutly no dialouge.
and it can't be done.

steverules_2
Unless it's AvP, then it'd rule!!

jinXed by JaNx
Originally posted by omgchos
What would movie be about then? If no aliens are to be in it.

i don't know, the Aliens who discovered or created them?

steverules_2
I reckon...that the story should be that scientists or an alien species...creates an egg...out of the egg comes the face hugger and it latches on to someone and BOOM out comes the alien queen, she lays the eggs and what not and the scientists or alien species tries to destroy the xenomorphs and maybe in the end they think they have so they forget about it but it turns out there's still a queen or a queen suddenly bursts out of someone...something like that

coolmovies
If you remember in alien there was a dead sceleton with its ribs broken . Maybe Scott can explain what happend to him .

steverules_2
I think they are hoping to do that

coolmovies
This is what Scott said in an interview Scott's concept for a story was "to go back to where the alien creatures were first found and explain how they were created

steverules_2
Originally posted by coolmovies
also why was there a warning to nostromo ??

It wasn't to the nostromo...it was to all space crafts/vehicles

coolmovies
ohh ok

darthmaul1
Originally posted by coolmovies
If you remember in alien there was a dead sceleton with its ribs broken . Maybe Scott can explain what happend to him .

I have an idea for AVP3 that explains the space Jockey.
Please let me know what you think.

AVP3 needs a good writer and director to redem the franchise.
Shane Black to direct and or write, Nicholas Meyer to direct someone who knows what they are doing.

Here is my idea which need some tweeking but i think it is good rough draft
I had watched AVP-R with the commentary and heard that they tried to get I am assuming Adam Baldwin to reprise his role of Garber. Not sure why he wouldn’t do it, maybe it wasn’t a big enough part for him I don’t know. For AVP 3 it would be great to get Adam Baldwin to reprise his role from Predator 2 and play Garber along with Robert Joy as Col. Stevens, and Ms. Yutani from AVP-R.

It should start about a six months to a year after AVP-R, but it will have the company of now Weyland-Yutani Corp. back in Gunnison, Colorado examining the landing pod in the lake that the predator used in AVP-R then transporting it back to a research facility. Then you can show another team in Antarctica getting the frozen Alien Queen out of the water. Once they get her out, they transport her to the same Weyland-Yutani military research facility complete with military personnel, where they took the landing pod, on a remote tropical island somewhere. They thaw her out and chain her up, in order to produce more eggs. They then maybe have military prisoners and use them as hosts for the aliens. Have to have someone comment on the notes made by Lex(AVP) that the aliens appeared in about 10 minutes, now they are taking hrs (in alien it must of been maybe 2 or 3 hours?)and the the other creatures (predators) must of been giving the queen some sort of drug to accelarate the process.
There would have to be the inevitable disaster in order to get the Aliens to start running a muck. Then we see a ship that looks like the ship that was found in the first Alien movie and seen in the extended edition of Aliens, this ship is used by the Space Jockies (the big creature in the chair in Alien) and the Predators to transport Alien eggs to other hunting grounds. While they are passing by Earth they do a scan for the heat and conflict they crave, the monitors could show some battles in Iraq and Afghanistan and then they discover that the Aliens are running a muck on the tropical Island with the Weyland-Yutani installation.

So they cloak the ship and land at a remote spot on the island. All 3 Predators leave the ship and the lone Space Jockey is left behind. Some scientists and military personnel at the facility noticed the atmospheric disturbance from the ship and see it land and with the thermal suits (Predator 2) they do a recon mission to the ship (do not go inside). They place a sophisticated homing device on the outside of the ship and return to the base. While this is going the remaining military personnel, scientists, Aliens and Predators are fighting it out on the island.

The Queen and a drone can end up escaping and on the way to the ship she lays her egg that will house a face hugger with a Queen and drone embryo(as in alien 3). She then instructs the drone and face hugger that is out of the egg to head to the ship (just as she instructed the drones in Aliens to back away from Ripley). She then turns back to fight the remaining 2 predators.

The Drone and face hugger make it to the ship where they go to the observatory with the big telescope, where the drone knocks out the Space Jockey and then it is impregnated by the face hugger. All the Aliens are killed on the island and 1 Predator remains and after he kills the queen he boards the ship to leave. (There will be NO explosion to kill everything on the island)

The predator takes off in the ship and once the ship is on course he then proceeds to the observatory room where he sees the space jockey against the wall passed out. He scans the jockey and sees the queen embryo gestating inside. The same face hugger tries to impregnate the Predator (as in Alien 3 I think the final face hugger from the queen carried 2 embryos) but the Predator kills the face hugger.

Then the drone emerges and a fight happens between him and the Predator. The pred gets fatally wounded and with his last breath he decapitates the drone. The drone is killed and melts a hole in the deck (Like the hole in Alien.) both corpses fall through the hole.

You could then go back to the Weyland-Yutani scientist tracking the ship, and then go back to the Space Jockey ship a few hours later when the Space Jockey comes to. He then hops into the big telescope chair and then you can show the Space Jockey convulsing with the Queen trying to get out, he uses the telescope chair to locate a planet to land / crash on, he then resets the computer to land / crash on a planet LV-426(from Alien and Aliens) He then sets the computer to issue the warning signal. at the same time when the Queen bursts out of his chest killing him the hull breach occurs and the atmosphere gets in and makes the space jocky look as if it has been fossilized, And then the Queen chestburster goes down the hole made by the drone.

Once the ship comes to a stop the last thing you see is the Queen going through the ship and then the camera pulls back and you see of all the eggs that Kane saw in the first Alien movie complete with the mist and the blue barrier. This is how Weyland-Yutani Corp. knows about the ship and Alien in the first Alien movie, because it has the homing device on it. Plus it has the warning from the space jockey that mother deciphered in Alien.

Cause the company obviously knows more than what they let on in the first alien movie even Ash the android new something was going to happen to Kane the way he was looking at him at the dinner table.
I think this would be a good way to meld the story lines together and once it is done if they wanted to do any more they would be free to put it on any planet during any time.

coolmovies
The first half reminds me of AR we all know how that turned out . Also the rest of it is like you said yourself (as in Alien 3 I think the final face hugger from the queen carried 2 embryos) Also it was Ash's falt for letting kane back into the space ship. I do like the following idea

You could then go back to the Weyland-Yutani scientist tracking the ship, and then go back to the Space Jockey ship a few hours later when the Space Jockey comes to. He then hops into the big telescope chair and then you can show the Space Jockey convulsing with the Queen trying to get out, he uses the telescope chair to locate a planet to land / crash on, he then resets the computer to land / crash on a planet LV-426(from Alien and Aliens) He then sets the computer to issue the warning signal. at the same time when the Queen bursts out of his chest killing him the hull breach occurs and the atmosphere gets in and makes the space jocky look as if it has been fossilized, And then the Queen chestburster goes down the hole made by the drone.


To be Honest as a big fan of the Alien saga they should never have made the AVP movies i mean look at Alien 3 Assembly Cut which is good and AR speaks forhimself.


Even if they do make a Alien prequel it will never beat the orignal masterpiece A L I E N or Aliens

darthmaul1
Originally posted by coolmovies
The first half reminds me of AR we all know how that turned out . Also the rest of it is like you said yourself (as in Alien 3 I think the final face hugger from the queen carried 2 embryos) Also it was Ash's falt for letting kane back into the space ship. I do like the following idea

You could then go back to the Weyland-Yutani scientist tracking the ship, and then go back to the Space Jockey ship a few hours later when the Space Jockey comes to. He then hops into the big telescope chair and then you can show the Space Jockey convulsing with the Queen trying to get out, he uses the telescope chair to locate a planet to land / crash on, he then resets the computer to land / crash on a planet LV-426(from Alien and Aliens) He then sets the computer to issue the warning signal. at the same time when the Queen bursts out of his chest killing him the hull breach occurs and the atmosphere gets in and makes the space jocky look as if it has been fossilized, And then the Queen chestburster goes down the hole made by the drone.


To be Honest as a big fan of the Alien saga they should never have made the AVP movies i mean look at Alien 3 Assembly Cut which is good and AR speaks forhimself.


Even if they do make a Alien prequel it will never beat the orignal masterpiece A L I E N or Aliens

Agreed it will never beat the originals, cause the element of surprise is gone, we have seen everything (dinner scene, Queen, Predator reveal, Old predators) Maybe seeing the queen face hugger thing which sideshow toys had made a model of it, would be a good surprise. and then of course the end of it as i had stated.

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=5980

coolmovies
You know i still have nightmears about the Alien film its still shocking

CadoAngelus
sounds good.

if you truly like the AVP saga - so far - then you could argue the predator and alien fall hand in hand...

chronologically i've worked out the films therefore are set out like this:
- Predator
- Predator 2
- AVP 1
- AVP 2
- Alien
- Alens
- Alien 3
- Alien Resurrection

now when they say a direct alien prequel, there's no doubt that they are in no way including the AVP series...so it would be what? the discovery of the xenomorphs by the weyland corporation and the initial contract given to the crew of the nostromo to find and capture a xenomorph?

it seems like a pretty open concept. you could do whatever you wanted really, provided you include at least one xenomorph in the film. i bet all those dedicated and devout alien fans are drooling

Kazenji

steverules_2
I'm wondering if the aliens were man made or made by another race, either way it went wrong clearly

CadoAngelus
or too right... messed

The Nuul
I like to think they are another race or if someone/thing made them is not a bad idea but it would ruin my childhood dreams of them. I like the mystery of where they came from.

CadoAngelus
Originally posted by The Nuul
I like to think they are another race or if someone/thing made them is not a bad idea but it would ruin my childhood dreams of them. I like the mystery of where they came from.

i think that is half the fascination with the Xenomorphs...though you have to wonder, how Weyland Corp knew that a colony resided on LV-426...makes me wonder a lot about where they came from...

coolmovies
If you made it what whould the story be ? Mine would be two members finding the eggs and sending a warning to other ships not to come to the planet .

The prequel happens 20 years before Alien takes place

bulletproofcour
I can tell you exactly how a younger Ripley would fit into a prequel: "The Company" (her employer) grows to dislike her for some reason, so her name comes up for the high risk, long-term mission to LV247.

By working her character development backward, it's no problem to write scenes of a young Ripley clashing with male superiors and maybe getting a whiff of wicked Company secrets, becoming a liability.

Ripley (to Company man): "So you're saying I should suppress my report? Just shut up and forget it about and go about my day? Listen, I know I owe everything to The Company, but how can I-"

Company man: "That's right, Ripley. Everything. That's what you stand to lose here."

etc. etc. etc.

Begs the question: what young actress shall we cast to play a young Ripley?

The Nuul
How old would she be?

bulletproofcour
She would be just as old as Ripley in the first Alien movie, maybe 1 or 2 years younger.

A young Sigourney Weaver look-alike could be cast, who could this be?

Or the ol' lady could do it herself using Benjamin-Button reverse aging effects. Sigourney's not decrepit yet, I think it would still work.

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