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Discuss the ethics of paying for sex.

Yes, definitely. If you are allowed to give it away for free you should have the right to charge for it.

Yes, sex workers have formed unions in places where it was made legal and resulted in improved quality of life for themselves and customers.

Yes, and it should be taxed.

Yes, for the reasons I posted in the other thread

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, and it should be taxed.

No, no one has the right to tax your body like that.

Actually income tax is illegal.
But, I digress.

I don't agree with premarital sex.
But, you can charge for it if you wish.

Absolutely.

Originally posted by The Scribe
No, no one has the right to tax your body like that...

I would not be for taxing bodies, just the money. We need it...

Originally posted by The Scribe
No, no one has the right to tax your body like that.

Actually income tax is illegal.
But, I digress.

I don't agree with premarital sex.
But, you can charge for it if you wish.
Should a husband/wife be able to charge their partners for sex?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Should a husband/wife be able to charge their partners for sex?

I'd bet money he thinks only the man should.

Originally posted by BackFire
Absolutely.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Should a husband/wife be able to charge their partners for sex? Well, yeah, I doubt that's going to be a very fruitful and/or lasting marriage though, though different strokes, I guess.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, yeah, I doubt that's going to be a very fruitful and/or lasting marriage though, though different strokes, I guess.

There's an economic domination fetish actually.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's an economic domination fetish actually. Probably a good idea for those people then.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Should a husband/wife be able to charge their partners for sex?

Already happens, Sir. May not be as blatant as handing over $175.00 for a blow-job and a ride, but it happens in marriages.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, sex workers have formed unions in places where it was made legal and resulted in improved quality of life for themselves and customers.

If that is true, then I agree. Marijuana should be legalized as well.

Legalize prostitution. Allows for government regulation and control of the "industry". Allows it to be taxed and watched.

Technically, yes. But if some street whore wants to continue walking the streets and not claim her yearly makings to the IRA, there isn't much to stop her.

There's always an underground economy, no getting rid of it (yay!). Though that brings in my own preferences for tougher laws/punishments/police presence. W/E.

Originally posted by Robtard
Technically, yes. But if some street whore wants to continue walking the streets and not claim her yearly makings to the IRA, there isn't much to stop her.

Clubs.

Yes.

Why is porn legal but not prostitution? The health side of it?

Originally posted by Ryo 666
Yes.

Why is porn legal but not prostitution? The health side of it? The health and danger. The computer isn't gonna pimp you out to a site with a psychotic past and a hidden knife.

Prostitution is illegal because of the supposed crime element, ie whores on the streets = the city/town will turn into a ghetto and crime will rise.

legalize everything!

Originally posted by inimalist
legalize everything!

Time for a killing spree with no repercussions!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
no repercussions!

no legal repercussions

I'm getting a George Carlin flashback here.

Originally posted by inimalist
no legal repercussions

Why would people stop me? The only way you'll legalize everything is if you first convince people that it's okay to do anything.

If prostitution is legalised...perhaps we could have a State-Owned operation...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
If prostitution is legalised...perhaps we could have a State-Owned operation...

Already happened in the US, when the Mustang Ranch in Nevada failed, the state took ownership. Not sure of its status now.

I can see why this question is of such relevance to regulars of any internet messageboard. I can als see why this is of special relevance to regulars of such a den pf basement dwelling mama's boys as KMC. Without prostitution, how will you ver get laid. May God have mercy on your souls.

Originally posted by Da Pimp
I can see why this question is of such relevance to regulars of any internet messageboard. I can als see why this is of special relevance to regulars of such a den pf basement dwelling mama's boys as KMC. Without prostitution, how will you ver get laid. May God have mercy on your souls.

Good contribution Diane.

Originally posted by Da Pimp
I can see why this question is of such relevance to regulars of any internet messageboard. I can als see why this is of special relevance to regulars of such a den pf basement dwelling mama's boys as KMC. Without prostitution, how will you ver get laid. May God have mercy on your souls.
Hi Whirly.

Originally posted by Da Pimp
I can see why this question is of such relevance to regulars of any internet messageboard. I can als see why this is of special relevance to regulars of such a den pf basement dwelling mama's boys as KMC. Without prostitution, how will you ver get laid. May God have mercy on your souls. I smell a Whirly

Originally posted by Da Pimp
I can see why this question is of such relevance to regulars of any internet messageboard. I can als see why this is of special relevance to regulars of such a den pf basement dwelling mama's boys as KMC. Without prostitution, how will you ver get laid. May God have mercy on your souls.

See kids, this is what happens when you abuse steroids.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why would people stop me? The only way you'll legalize everything is if you first convince people that it's okay to do anything. Not necessarily. And even then, why not stop you?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not necessarily.

Yes, necessarily. If people object to something they'll try to stop it, then they'll try to enforce and codify it. As long as people can think and communicate you'll end up with a legal system of some sort (unless you construct a legal system that specifically prevents that which completely defeats the point).

Originally posted by Bardock42
And even then, why not stop you?

Are you asking me to prove a negative?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, necessarily. If people object to something they'll try to stop it, then they'll try to enforce and codify it. As long as people can think and communicate you'll end up with a legal system of some sort (unless you construct a legal system that specifically prevents that which completely defeats the point).

You could for one convince them that creating and enforcing such a code is actually worse, which would yield the same results.

Though it really all depends on what you consider legalization to be.


Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you asking me to prove a negative?

I don't think so.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why would people stop me?

Why would people stop you from murdering them? One doesn't need an advanced degree in the study of human behaviour to understand that....

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The only way you'll legalize everything is if you first convince people that it's okay to do anything.

taking me way too for serial on this one

Yes, but no ugly ho's.

Its their body, there just using it in a different way then the rest of the work force. It should be regulated just like any other labor job.

Originally posted by Mindship
Yes, but no ugly ho's.

Which brings to light a good question about discrimination on the job.

Say a 'John' looking for a whore refuses to hire one because she's ugly, too fat, handicapped or black etc, could that 'John' be sued on the grounds of the equal employment rights act?

Originally posted by Robtard
Which brings to light a good question about discrimination on the job.

Say a 'John' looking for a whore refuses to hire one because she's ugly, too fat, handicapped or black etc, could that 'John' be sued on the grounds of the equal employment rights act?

No, if that were true you'd be able to sue everyone who didn't buy your products. On the other hand you might be able to argue discrimination if a brothel refused to hire you.

Originally posted by Robtard
Which brings to light a good question about discrimination on the job.

Say a 'John' looking for a whore refuses to hire one because she's ugly, too fat, handicapped or black etc, could that 'John' be sued on the grounds of the equal employment rights act?

it would be hilarious if it happen, matter of fact i think their has bn similar suits in nevada in the bunny and mustang ranch,.. definitely with casino employee woman who are paid to look a certain way.

Originally posted by Robtard
Which brings to light a good question about discrimination on the job.

Say a 'John' looking for a whore refuses to hire one because she's ugly, too fat, handicapped or black etc, could that 'John' be sued on the grounds of the equal employment rights act? I think it would fall under that the person is looking for a service or product so they can pick and choose, just as someone could say they didn't want to hire a black handy man to fix their house. This wouldn't fall under the legal term of discrimination since they are not a business. Now the pimp on the other hand could.

At a first glance (ha) I'm all for it (once again, assuming no ugly ho's) but actually, I'm not sure. This sounds like it would put an unfair burden on the poor- in much the same way an all volunteer army does: Those who choose this line of work would (primarily) be those with no other options.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Lol. Please trll me how many women I've dated...really..inquiring minds want to know.

ZOMG! You've got me!

I guess you missed the part where I prefaced with "probably".




But, who knows, someone like may very well have been able to trick quite a few women to go out with you a few times. ...after all, isn't that what he game is? Tricking/fooling the opposite sex?



Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Well, more power to you then, glad you can see the future


I can. I am better than Ms. Cleo.


Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
And I'll add, when you're 46, I hope the 20 something hardbodies are swarming all over you because of your clothes, six pack, and finesse.

I see what you did there...and there's no reason that they couldn't...but never do they "swarm all over you" unless you're famous in some way.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Things were different for me in my 20s as well (though I was married at 26)

Things are different now that I've gotten older....I don't go to any clubs...don't dance anymore....don't see boobs randomly......married life is a big change.




But I love my wife very much. "That's what it's all about."

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Ok, if you want to discuss the ethics of paying for sex, please open a thread for it. Else keep it on topic, thanks.

I know you could teach me, and you'd have to charge, damn right, it better than mine.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
At a first glance (ha) I'm all for it (once again, assuming no ugly ho's) but actually, I'm not sure. This sounds like it would put an unfair burden on the poor- in much the same way an all volunteer army does: Those who choose this line of work would (primarily) be those with no other options.

Because as we all know the majority of prostitutes at the moment consider it the ideal line of work.

Yes...It'd make the entire thing far safer for all involved. It is, after all, consensual sex between 2 adults...There is no justification for making it illegal beyond the nuisance it may cause to people who live in redlight districts...If it were legal then these things would no longer be an issue anyway.

I do, however, think that the drug dependancy issue that drives a lot of women into prostitution has to be addressed 1st

Originally posted by Robtard
Which brings to light a good question about discrimination on the job.

Say a 'John' looking for a whore refuses to hire one because she's ugly, too fat, handicapped or black etc, could that 'John' be sued on the grounds of the equal employment rights act? That is a good question. Suppose a particular girl is rarely if ever picked (customer feedback indicates she's 'too ugly'). She brings in little/no business; should she stay on the payroll?

I suppose, to avoid being sued, a girl's desirability would have to be determined after the fact, so to speak, not before.

Originally posted by Robtard
Already happened in the US, when the Mustang Ranch in Nevada failed, the state took ownership. Not sure of its status now.

The Mustang Rnch was taken over and run by the feds for a short time in 1990 because the owner, Joe Conforte, had a huge tax debt. It was then resold and closed permantly in 1999 because it was determined the new owners were under Confortes control. Conforte is currently living in exile in Brazil. Part of the original building was sold on Ebay a few years ago and moved down th freeway a few miles and renamed the World Fameous Brothel. After an extended legal battle over the name, with Conforte's now incarcerted nephew David Burgess, it has once again been branded The Mustang Ranch though in a different location and only small shadow of the original.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I would not be for taxing bodies, just the money. We need it...

You know what I meant and they make you think we need it.

No one has the right to tax your work or body.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Should a husband/wife be able to charge their partners for sex?

What do you think?

I will tell you...no.

Originally posted by The Scribe
You know what I meant and they make you think we need it.

No one has the right to tax your work or body.



What do you think?

I will tell you...no. Your body and work is taxed every day of your life.

Sure, there is nothing wrong with prostitution.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Discuss the ethics of paying for sex.

I agree wholeheartedly that prostitution should be legalized. But even if it was, I would never pay for sex. I can go out and pick up women and practice safe sex. If that is not an option, masturbation.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I agree wholeheartedly that prostitution should be legalized. But even if it was, I would never pay for sex. I can go out and pick up women and practice safe sex. If that is not an option, masturbation.




What's awesome is you're correct on all accounts.


Ugly peoples' slogan: "If you lack the traits, time for bates."

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Your body and work is taxed every day of your life.

Unconstitutionally and most importantly against the scriptures.

Originally posted by KidRock
Sure, there is nothing wrong with prostitution.

disgust nono

Originally posted by The Scribe
Unconstitutionally and most importantly against the scriptures.

Originally posted by dadudemon


disgust dadudemon nono

Originally posted by The Scribe
Unconstitutionally and most importantly against the scriptures.


Which passages of your KJV?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Discuss the ethics of paying for sex.

if it means more "jebs"?

i lost mine today...

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Its their body, there just using it in a different way then the rest of the work force. It should be regulated just like any other labor job. Thats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them.

Originally posted by Robtard
Which passages of your KJV?

God abhors unjust weights and balances.

Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

Levi the Tax Collector

Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today.

Legalize prostitution via a federal registery with healthcare and collective bargaining rights for both prostitutes and adult movie stars including regular physicals. Create industry standards of safety. Pay for this by creating a high tax on services and products which will also create a more efficient, market based social stigma. Run public service commercials on the importance of developing meaningful relationships and the ultimate, hollow emptiness of casual sex. Strictly enforce anti-pimping laws.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them. Yes you can. Would the government collect all the taxes, I doubt that it would be the same as with day labor and tips but you then can offer things as an intensive. What would be the difference in health insurance to another job that deals with death on a daily basis, besides it would be up to that person to pay for their own health insurance or the employer.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Thats impossible. Can you imagine the cost for health insurance? And how would the government tax them? Thats the biggest thing, you know, the government wouldnt be able to collect taxes on them.

Easy; you legalise it only in licensed premises that have to keep books. Sure, its exploitable, but then so is gambling. It's still better than the underground business.

I'll remind people that in many places, it is solicitation or procuring that is illegal, not exchanging money for sex (which is a very difficult thing to prove anyway).

Originally posted by The Scribe
God abhors unjust weights and balances.

Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

Levi the Tax Collector

Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today.

First of all, you'd have to prove the "unjust" portion of it, because there are parts of the tax system you use, eg police protection.

Second, if you're going to dig into the Old Testament as proof against doing something or not doing something, then you mustn't pick and choose which part to follow, but take the Old Testament in it's entirety to heart. So that includes father's stoning their insolent daughters, men not shaving, owning slaves from foreign lands, eating Kosher etc. etc. etc.

Yes it should be legalized.

Originally posted by The Scribe
God abhors unjust weights and balances.

Micah 6:10-12 (KJV)
10: Are there yet the treasures of wickedness in the house of the wicked, and the scant measure that is abominable ?
11: Shall I count them pure with the wicked balances, and with the bag of deceitful weights?
12: For the rich men thereof are full of violence, and the inhabitants thereof have spoken lies, and their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

Levi the Tax Collector

Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers.
Because they were and they still are today. It is not the tax collector that is the sinner but the government that imposes the taxes.

So all of those Christians in power are all sinners, the tax collector is just doing the job that they were hired for obeying the laws of the land.

Hence... Do Christians have to obey the laws of the land?

No, it should be banned outright.

The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.

Maybe there are women (and men) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.

Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world.

Legalize it so i can start charging these hoes stoned

Mairuzu should be legalized.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
No, it should be banned outright.

The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.

Maybe there are women (and men) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.

Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world.

I understand your point, but isn't it just unrealistic and non-pragmatic to ban prostitution?

wouldn't anti-poverty, adequate child support care and drug rehab programs do more to tackle prostitution than a ban?

Like I hear you, to hear some people talk about it, hookers are all liberated women who are choosing to leave their CEO paying jobs because they love to be sodomized by 3 men who have sex offender status. There is something to be said for freedom, but man, like prostitutes are not the people to be looking to as bastions of "libertarian" philosophy.

My thoughts: it should be legal, but if we had a society that treated women with respect, none of them would feel the need to do it. Unless they really wanted to, I guess.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
No, it should be banned outright.

The reason being most women are forced by into it, weather it be because of drugs, threat of violence or terrible financial circumstances.

Maybe there are women (and men) who actually enjoy doing the job, but for the sake of the ones who are forced into it it should be banned.

Men (or women) should learn to control themselves in this "everything is for sale" world. Well since it is illegal in almost every state how is that working? Why would a ban make it any different? What is the difference from a person being forced to work for a job because a lack of education, financial hardship or what ever? They are working for a job that they don't want but they need money just like everyone else.

As inimalist said this is a symptom of larger problem such as drugs and the economy. If a person is desperate for money they will still get it however they need to even if there is a ban or not so that doesn't really effect anything as it does now. At least if it is legal we could help these people do this in a safer way by medical check-up, registering and yes taxes. Right now most slip through the cracks, die of violence, spread STD's or simply go missing.

Much of what you state negatively about prostituion is the result of underground prostituion, not a legalised business.

You are also living in dreamland if you think it will go away with some notion of 'respect for women'. The desire for sex is nothing to do with lack of respect. In a business, it's a service on offer that some want.

Also with legalisation, you can screen ot unwanted clients.

None of this is to say that legalised brothels will be cathedrals of sense and morality. As I say, it's like gambling. But it sure as hell is better than the underground alternatives.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
You are also living in dreamland if you think it will go away with some notion of 'respect for women'. The desire for sex is nothing to do with lack of respect. In a business, it's a service on offer that some want.

indeed, it is more about women respecting themselves enough not to participate unless they wanted to

clearly the SES issues are far more important though

Originally posted by inimalist




but if we had a society that treated women with respect, none of them would feel the need to do it. Unless they really wanted to, I guess.

I don't agree. It's like one hooker in a Nevada Brothel once told me when I asked her why she was a hooker if she didn't like doing it (we had been talking at the bar and she told me she hated being a hooker)...
"I can't live on fifteen dollars an hour", meaning she did it for the income.

Lots of people choose to do jobs they don't like (hell, I'm one of them) because it enables them to enjoy the rest of their life. A hooker by choice is no different.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
It is not the tax collector that is the sinner but the government that imposes the taxes.

So all of those Christians in power are all sinners, the tax collector is just doing the job that they were hired for obeying the laws of the land.

As long as the laws of the land do not go against the laws of God.

So, being a tax-gatherer for the government is against the law of God and therefore it is a sin.

The people of this Government are not Christians they don't even know the definition.
The people in the government are there to be a representative to the people and follow the Supreme laws of the land which are: The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

They are not doing that any more.
I predict another war in this country in the not too distant future.

Originally posted by inimalist
indeed, it is more about women respecting themselves enough not to participate unless they wanted to

clearly the SES issues are far more important though

Though that assumes a rather old fashioned view of sex, and selling ones body as lack of respect, which I find silly, though it seems prevalent in society.

But if we go make belief on changes in society why not that, too, it might go hand in hand.

Originally posted by The Scribe
As long as the laws of the land do not go against the laws of God.

So, being a tax-gatherer for the government is against the law of God and therefore it is a sin.

The people of this Government are not Christians they don't even know the definition.
The people in the government are there to be a representative to the people and follow the Supreme laws of the land which are: The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

They are not doing that any more.
I predict another war in this country in the not too distant future. Maybe you should read your own article as to what a tax collector was at that time, MAJOR difference to an IRS agent today.

Being an IRS agent is not a sin against God, being a corrupt one is. Read this again "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" notice that it separates the tax collectors from the sinners, why not just say sinners? The reason is that not all tax collectors where corrupt, while it was a rareity it was not unheard of, they were hated people for how they collected the taxes in their local districts and would many times overcharge so that they could become richer.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Maybe you should read your own article as to what a tax collector was at that time, MAJOR difference to an IRS agent today.

Being an IRS agent is not a sin against God, being a corrupt one is. Read this again "Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and 'sinners'?" notice that it separates the tax collectors from the sinners, why not just say sinners? The reason is that not all tax collectors where corrupt, while it was a rareity it was not unheard of, they were hated people for how they collected the taxes in their local districts and would many times overcharge so that they could become richer.

That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners.

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

Originally posted by The Scribe
That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners.

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

However, Jesus said give unto Cesar what is Cesar's.

Originally posted by The Scribe
That was the Pharisee's saying that. Of course, they wouldn't see the tax collector's as sinners.

"Tax collectors were widely regarded as thieves and robbers."

Levi was one he repented and quit.

The IRS today is just like they were then. They are all thieves.

So widely means all now? I must have not gotten the memo, so if you were not a thief or robber as a tax collector you would still be a sinner even if you were fair?

It is nice to see that you consider the IRS and all of its employees to be all thieves, so the poor guy working in the mail room is stealing from everyone. The IRS doesn't kill people, the IRS doesn't burn down their homes, the IRS doesn't take people as slaves for payment. Do you partake in ANY government programs or services? Do you drive on the roads, enjoy police protection? If so then you are a sinner for condoning taxation and guilty as much as the mail room guy at the IRS.

So if the Pharisee's wouldn't say that tax collectors are sinners then why would he ask Jesus why are you sitting with sinners? If they would think that the tax collectors are not sinners why would it be such a shock to them that he is sitting with them?

Sounds like you have a lot of pride/despair/wrath/vanity but those are all sins.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
So widely means all now?

It means most people in that day saw them as the thieves they were.
But, today people don't know the true laws.
Most taxes are illegal including the Federal Reserve.
"To coin money."



Everyone working for them is yes.

Just like the courts would convict people that work for the mob and so on, or a getaway driver. All he did was drive the vehicle.



The Pharisees must not have liked them either.
I'd say they didn't like tax collectors.
Seems you can't connect things.

The Pharisees wanted to discredited Jesus any way they could.
So, they would use anything and everything they could think of.

If you want to harp on about your ridiculous concept of 'true law', do so in the Religion section. Keep this thread on topic, please.

OK, moved

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=511741

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I don't agree. It's like one hooker in a Nevada Brothel once told me when I asked her why she was a hooker if she didn't like doing it (we had been talking at the bar and she told me she hated being a hooker)...
"I can't live on fifteen dollars an hour", meaning she did it for the income.

Lots of people choose to do jobs they don't like (hell, I'm one of them) because it enables them to enjoy the rest of their life. A hooker by choice is no different.

would you be happy if your daughter was a hooker?

would you feel as though she had reached her potential and was maximizing herself as a human being?

or, would you think, regardless of her reasons, that she was, to say the least, underachieving?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Though that assumes a rather old fashioned view of sex, and selling ones body as lack of respect, which I find silly, though it seems prevalent in society.

But if we go make belief on changes in society why not that, too, it might go hand in hand.

much like other jobs, there is some innate "usury" assumed in prostitution.

This also assumes a rather egalitarian view of the prostitution industry. Lets have a society that values women's contribution to society more than their bodies, and see if the willingness of women to use it as a means of "wage earning" diminishes.

the respect argument makes more sense with regards to porn, and like I said to Ush, clearly most of the issues around modern prostitution are socio-economic/cultural rather than issues of female respect.

Originally posted by inimalist
would you be happy if your daughter was a hooker?

would you feel as though she had reached her potential and was maximizing herself as a human being?

or, would you think, regardless of her reasons, that she was, to say the least, underachieving?





I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked this (about the daughter, sister, mother, etc) during this discussion.

Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

As for the maximizing herself as a human being...you lost me there.

Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about, and very few pay as well as renting one's body.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about

i agree with this. id even go so far as to say that the majority of jobs out there dont "maximize" our potential as a human being.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

Some certainly do, not all hookers are drug dependents who suck a dick for $50.00 and then immediately go blow it on crack.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?

A lot of female students resorted to prostitution to pay their way through university. I know one personally that did just that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/news/article665019.ece

Originally posted by jaden101
A lot of female students resorted to prostitution to pay their way through university. I know one personally that did just that.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/education/student/news/article665019.ece

Well if they couldn't find another way to pay for it I wouldn't count that as unreasonable.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I wish I had a dollar for every time someone asked this (about the daughter, sister, mother, etc) during this discussion.

Of course I wouldn't be happy, but if she made the decision of her own free choice and it wasn't at the coercion of and for the support of a pimp I wouldn't interfere nor would I disown her.

As for the maximizing herself as a human being...you lost me there.

Underachieving? There are lots of jobs/lifestyle choices you can say that about, and very few pay as well as renting one's body.

I do see your point and being a high caliber lady of the night is certainly good money. REALLY good money.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options?


Let's see, you can make hunderds or even thousands of dollars A DAY as a hooker, or you can make $8.00 an hour at Wal Mart. Yes, I do believe some women become hookers by choice.

yes it really should be

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But do you honestly believe people become hookers by choosing it over reasonable options? Why not, women have had sex to get promotions, cars, jewelry, houses and so on so what makes getting paid any different? They may not be your common street walking giving $5 BJ's but call girls and escorts that make thousands per week.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
Let's see, you can make hunderds or even thousands of dollars A DAY as a hooker, or you can make $8.00 an hour at Wal Mart. Yes, I do believe some women become hookers by choice. Shoot, score.

If pornography is legal, then prostitution should be legal as well.