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(adamantium tents for ock)

spite threat unles SS gets his teleportation rings.

......................leo what the hell is this your better then this.

well, i seem to recall a bunch of people saying logan could take out doc, so i thought this might be interesting . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
well, i seem to recall a bunch of people saying logan could take out doc, so i thought this might be interesting . . .

logan is athletic and agile with superhuman speed and reaction. SS is an old school samurai fighter it wouldnt help him much against doc. the only way he can win is if he throws a sword or knife at doc, i have never seen SS do so.

ps. abc logic sux

Also Wolverine has a healing factor that means he can take hits, SS gets hit and whats going to save him.

SOMETIMES abc logic, when taken to a ridiculous and irrelevent degree, MAY suck.

though i didn't really use abc here at all. i thought he could extend his field to surround thrown objects for some reason and so might have a range advantage. nor was i certain even his adamantium arms cut withstand his field. isn't logan's adamantium special? harder? wasn't sure the TYPE of adamantium ock's arms utilized.

Originally posted by leonidas
SOMETIMES abc logic, when taken to a ridiculous and irrelevent degree, MAY suck.

though i didn't really use abc here at all. i thought he could extend his field to surround thrown objects for some reason and so might have a range advantage. nor was i certain even his adamantium arms cut withstand his field. isn't logan's adamantium special? harder? wasn't sure the TYPE of adamantium ock's arms utilized.

i was thinking the same thing about the adamantium i just was to lazy to point it out and argue my point across. but yes doc's arms are secondary adamantium not true adamantium nor any stronger then beta adamantium which only makes it densile but retains its strength.

SS could possibly cut the arms i guess.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was thinking the same thing about the adamantium i just was to lazy to point it out and argue my point across. but yes doc's arms are secondary adamantium not true adamantium nor any stronger then beta adamantium which only makes it densile but retains its strength.

SS could possibly cut the arms i guess.

ahhh, so it isn't QUITE as lopsided as it first appeared . . . even if he could manage to cut an arm or 2 that would help make it a little more even. still an uphill battle, but not hopeless.

Doc Ock.

Originally posted by leonidas
well, i seem to recall a bunch of people saying logan could take out doc, so i thought this might be interesting . . .
no your trying to lure people and you dam well know you created a spite thread. plus this is sad and I have lost respect for you. There is a huge differences between wolverine and silver samurai and on top of that it was not doc ock with admatium and it was years ago the thread you are speaking about.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
logan is athletic and agile with superhuman speed and reaction. SS is an old school samurai fighter it wouldnt help him much against doc. the only way he can win is if he throws a sword or knife at doc, i have never seen SS do so.

ps. abc logic sux

You just called Harada "an old school samurai"? I'll pretend I didn't hear that.

Shurikens.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i was thinking the same thing about the adamantium i just was to lazy to point it out and argue my point across. but yes doc's arms are secondary adamantium not true adamantium nor any stronger then beta adamantium which only makes it densile but retains its strength.

SS could possibly cut the arms i guess.

They were made of s. adamantium? You sure? Is that because Hulk managed to bend them?

Originally posted by leonidas
ahhh, so it isn't QUITE as lopsided as it first appeared . . . even if he could manage to cut an arm or 2 that would help make it a little more even. still an uphill battle, but not hopeless.

If you gave SS MGH, then maybe...

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no your trying to lure people and you dam well know you created a spite thread. plus this is sad and I have lost respect for you. There is a huge differences between wolverine and silver samurai and on top of that it was not doc ock with admatium and it was years ago the thread you are speaking about.

lost respect? for making a thread you don't think is close?

okay . . .

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You just called Harada "an old school samurai"? I'll pretend I didn't hear that.

Shurikens.



They were made of s. adamantium? You sure? Is that because Hulk managed to bend them?



If you gave SS MGH, then maybe...

when he uses his shurikens, are they surrounded by his field?

Originally posted by leonidas
when he uses his shurikens, are they surrounded by his field?

You got me I have no proof at the moment, I read about it in the handbook. I'm afraid it's not his standard equipment, though.

And no, I don't think they are.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You got me I have no proof at the moment, I read about it in the handbook. I'm afraid it's not his standard equipment, though.

And no, I don't think they are.

ah well--i wasn't sure either.

Originally posted by leonidas
lost respect? for making a thread you don't think is close?

okay . . .
no for making a thread designed to lure people. You dam well know this is a crazy as spite thread and pretending it not is sad.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You just called Harada "an old school samurai"? I'll pretend I didn't hear that.



his fighting style doesnt lend itself to speed and agility.



They were made of s. adamantium? You sure? Is that because Hulk managed to bend them?

of course doc ocks arm bend. i meant to say that docs arms are cheaper versions of real adamantium second rate crap..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
his fighting style doesnt lend itself to speed and agility.




you are basing this off what?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
no for making a thread designed to lure people. You dam well know this is a crazy as spite thread and pretending it not is sad.

i don't dam well know anything. nor was it meant to "lure" anyone. who would i be "luring"? the crazy samurai fanboys? :blind:

like i said--i thought he could extend his field to thrown objects, and i think he MAY be able to actually CUT the arms since they are flexible.

if he can do EITHER of those, this is most certainly NOT a spite thread, even though it may still favor ock. if you like samurai so much (IF you do) instead of whining about the thread, FIND a way he might win.

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't dam well know anything. nor was it meant to "lure" anyone. who would i be "luring"? the crazy samurai fanboys? :blind:

like i said--i thought he could extend his field to thrown objects, and i think he MAY be able to actually CUT the arms since they are flexible.

if he can do EITHER of those, this is most certainly NOT a spite thread, even though it may still favor ock. if you like samurai so much (IF you do) instead of whining about the thread, FIND a way he might win.
I apologies if you truly believe he could beat Ock with adamatium arms.


He can't win. He can't cut the arms, he at best could slightly damage them.

Yes he can extend the field to objects he throws, it just something he would not do. Though he has done it with his sword if not mistaken.

It is a spite thread, becuase Ock will hit Silver samuria first and it over

Originally posted by Battlehammer
you are basing this off what?

using spidey/logans agility feats and not a single one of SS. look if SS had his rings i think he wins 8/10.

if he could throw a knife at his head he wins 3/10

hysterical

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
using spidey/logans agility feats and not a single one of SS. look if SS had his rings i think he wins 8/10.

if he could throw a knife at his head he wins 3/10
SS has agility feats and has used flips and so forth in battle with wolverine.


he also most certainly uses speed

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
using spidey/logans agility feats and not a single one of SS. look if SS had his rings i think he wins 8/10.

if he could throw a knife at his head he wins 3/10

His armor is made of modern materials, it's light.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/45/wolverine370607.th.jpg

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I apologies if you truly believe he could beat Ock with adamatium arms.


He can't win. He can't cut the arms, he at best could slightly damage them.

Yes he can extend the field to objects he throws, it just something he would not do. Though he has done it with his sword if not mistaken.

It is a spite thread, becuase Ock will hit Silver samuria first and it over

no sweat.

this was basically to learn a little more about samurai. i thought he had better speed feats than what i'm hearing. extending his field IS some good info though.

and what are these rings i keep reading about?

he is still nowhere near in the range of spidey or logans blitzing speed to get anywhere near doc.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
he is still nowhere near in the range of spidey or logans blitzing speed to get any where doc.

He's humiliated Parker on several occasions.

Originally posted by leonidas
no sweat.

this was basically to learn a little more about samurai. i thought he had better speed feats than what i'm hearing. extending his field IS some good info though.

and what are these rings i keep reading about?


He had a teleportation ring though I think DP has it now.


Silver Samurai has very fast combat speed, reflexes. he deflected bullets before each individual one shot at different locations before.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's humiliated Parker on several occasions.
who doc? i know that. he would humiliate SS here too

No Silver Samurai not Doc Ock

Originally posted by Battlehammer
He had a teleportation ring though I think DP has it now.

DP has a bracelet (Thunderbolts #130).

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
who doc? i know that. he would humiliate SS here too

Samurai...

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9234/marvelteamup05704927118dv8.th.jpg http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9433/marvelteamup05705931600wj8.th.jpg
Credit goes to srank.

There are more...

oh!! no!!!!! wheres logan to save him from being killed by the SS.

It was Black Widow who saved him.

That spider-man showing is bs. Caught him off guard and I highly doubt SS can take Spidey for a majority.

Silver Samuria done it mroe then ocnes and why is it BS? Silver Samuria more skilled and has insane combat speed

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Silver Samuria done it mroe then ocnes and why is it BS? Silver Samuria more skilled and has insane combat speed

also it even says in the scan spiderman heard him coming or his spider senses went off.

like spider-man hasn't taken on anyone with insane speed and combat training? please. when has ss taken down spiderman more than once? spiderman is faster and a lot stronger. black cat failed to creep up on him. Know why? because of his spider sense.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
also it even says in the scan spiderman heard him coming or his spider senses went off.

hearing and spider sense are 2 different things.

Ock stomps Samurai.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
like spider-man hasn't taken on anyone with insane speed and combat training? please. when has ss taken down spiderman more than once? spiderman is faster and a lot stronger. black cat failed to creep up on him. Know why? because of his spider sense.

It not BS for some one who extremely fast and skilled to hit spiderman, wolverine done it, capt done it, DD done it ect.

I should not even bother you clearly one of thoses spiderman is untouchable people.


yes and if you read the scan you see that spiderman did senses him he just got hit any ways

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ock stomps Samurai.
you are correct .

Originally posted by Battlehammer
It not BS for some one who extremely fast and skilled to hit spiderman, wolverine done it, capt done it, DD done it ect.

I should not even bother you clearly one of thoses spiderman is untouchable people.


yes and if you read the scan you see that spiderman did senses him he just got hit any ways

then don't bother. i have never said spidey was untouchable. my gripe is that his power didn't activate. he says he "heard" it. not the same thing as spider sense. on the otherhand, spider-man managed to dodge him, even though he was TRYING to catch him off guard. using one showing isn't a trend. like i said, spidey would own silver samurai more often than not. if you deny this, you're crazy.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
also it even says in the scan spiderman heard him coming or his spider senses went off.

Spider Sense.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7259/marvelteamup05703.th.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Ock stomps Samurai.

If it's classic Ock w/ adamantium then of course he stomps.

Current Octavius + adamantium? Not sure. He's in bad condition, all that radiation finally took a toll on him...

a few days ago i was thinking about making an SS vs spidey thread but, figured their would be too much bias for it.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
then don't bother. i have never said spidey was untouchable. my gripe is that his power didn't activate. he says he "heard" it. not the same thing as spider sense.
come one your smarter then that you have to be. It was silver samuria talking he does not know spiderman has spidesenses he assumed some how he heard him, but spiderman spider senses clearly went off. Come on uses some reading comprehension please.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
the otherhand, spider-man managed to dodge him, even though he was TRYING to catch him off guard. using one showing isn't a trend. like i said, spidey would own silver samurai more often than not. if you deny this, you're crazy.

Never said spiderman would not win more often then not. We were using it to show that Silver Samurai is extremely vast that even people like spiderman can get hit and thrashed on in melee with him.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
a few days ago i was thinking about making an SS vs spidey thread but, figured their would be too much bias for it.

Dude, look what I've just found laughcry

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=388468&highlight=title%3A(Spider-Man+vs.+Silver+Samurai)

Originally posted by Battlehammer
come one your smarter then that you have to be. It was silver samuria talking he does not know spiderman has spidesenses he assumed some how he heard him, but spiderman spider senses clearly went off. Come on uses some reading comprehension please.



Never said spiderman would not win more often then not. We were using it to show that Silver Samurai is extremely vast that even people like spiderman can get hit and thrashed on in melee with him.

Not necessarily. Spidey has failed to use the spider sense before. which is why i initially said BS. It's usually when they introduce someone new or try and make the other hero better. But someone sneaking up on him shouldn't be a problem, seeing other past opppnents have the same skill set.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not necessarily. Spidey has failed to use the spider sense before. which is why i initially said BS. It's usually when they introduce someone new or try and make the other hero better. But someone sneaking up on him shouldn't be a problem, seeing other past opppnents have the same skill set.
Thoses same past opponents have hit spiderman easily and gotten the better of spiderman......past opponents is not the best course for you to take this debate.


stiltman posted a scan of spidermans spidersenses going off before silver samuria attacked.....

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Thoses same past opponents have hit spiderman easily and gotten the better of spiderman......past opponents is not the best course for you to take this debate.


stiltman posted a scan of spidermans spidersenses going off before silver samuria attacked.....

What same opponents? I'm referring to the Rose and some chump who got the better of him by a simple gun. Spidey's senses didn't go off from what I remember.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
What same opponents? I'm referring to the Rose and some chump who got the better of him by a simple gun. Spidey's senses didn't go off from what I remember.
oh nvm.

so what your point in this thread again?