The Plutonian vs Sentry

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id369
Who takes it?

tijay
Bump

janus77
Plutonian.

"Id"
Fight

Galan007
Plutonian would have a good chance against standard Sentry. Death Sentry stomps, though.

carver9
Originally posted by Galan007
Plutonian would have a good chance against standard Sentry. Death Sentry stomps, though.

Didn't Plutonian withstand punches that was destroying star systems?

Galan007
Said punches were powered by star systems.

h1a8
The source of power doesn't equal the same ability to damage. A quarter has enough energy in it to turn billions of quarters to ash or blow up an entire city. Also, we have in fiction humans supernova a star with a simple device. So we should mostly focus on the intent of the writer since he has full creative power.

carver9
Originally posted by h1a8
The source of power doesn't equal the same ability to damage. A quarter has enough energy in it to turn billions of quarters to ash or blow up an entire city. Also, we have in fiction humans supernova a star with a simple device. So we should mostly focus on the intent of the writer since he has full creative power.

Do you know of the scene we are talking about?

Mindset
Originally posted by carver9
Do you know of the scene we are talking about? laughing out loud

h1a8
Originally posted by carver9
Do you know of the scene we are talking about? of course. Who here doesn't? People just think I have 0 comic knowledge.

"Id"
Haha

Galan007
carver just owned the bejesus out of h1, lol.

quanchi112
Carver ethered h1. Hopefully he will stay dead this time.

welldone
plutonian has picosecond reactiontime/operating speed. he is too fast for sentry

h1a8
Originally posted by quanchi112
Carver ethered h1. Hopefully he will stay dead this time.

Originally posted by Galan007
carver just owned the bejesus out of h1, lol.

Sure he did erm

http://imageshack.com/a/img537/7866/Pbg0zp.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/6350/EIFRoX.jpg

Surtur
You guys were not understanding what was going on. As the above scans clearly show, Plutonian was not getting hit with star system destroying punches. The person he is fighting was taking the energy of stars and using it to fight Plutonian.

What happens when you remove the main star of a solar system? The system is pretty much screwed. That is what was meant by a solar system "dying'. Not that she was hitting him hard enough to one shot actual star systems.

Now that we have cleared that up, Plutonian kind of has no way to put down a guy who can come back from being exploded. He probably could of if he'd been given a chance to fully master his powers, but he never got that chance to do it fully. Meanwhile, sooner or later Sentry is going to do enough damage to at least KO Plutonian.

Board Walker
Originally posted by Surtur
You guys were not understanding what was going on. As the above scans clearly show, Plutonian was not getting hit with star system destroying punches. The person he is fighting was taking the energy of stars and using it to fight Plutonian.

What happens when you remove the main star of a solar system? The system is pretty much screwed. That is what was meant by a solar system "dying'. Not that she was hitting him hard enough to one shot actual star systems.

Now that we have cleared that up, Plutonian kind of has no way to put down a guy who can come back from being exploded. He probably could of if he'd been given a chance to fully master his powers, but he never got that chance to do it fully. Meanwhile, sooner or later Sentry is going to do enough damage to at least KO Plutonian.

Plutonian psionically manipulates sentry into a piece of paper, or throws him to the heat death of the universe.

plutonian was tanking star system busting power compacted into a single punch, the plutonian was tanking an immeasurable amount of star system busting hits compacted down into the focus of a punch.

Squirtle
Originally posted by Board Walker
plutonian was tanking star system busting power compacted into a single punch, the plutonian was tanking an immeasurable amount of star system busting hits compacted down into the focus of a punch.

Yet the floor beneath was just fine... I guess Sentry literally was attacking Hulk with a million exploding stars power then.

Board Walker
Originally posted by Squirtle
Yet the floor beneath was just fine... I guess Sentry literally was attacking Hulk with a million exploding stars power then.

The power of star systems was being perfectly focused into each punch, perfect energy control. Thus why Plutonian was being so badly damaged because all that energy was being perfectly directed into him, without a single ounce of it being wasted on the surrounding.

h1a8
Also Plutonian showed ability to manipulate quantum entanglement. He leveled a freaking mountain with just a snap of his fingers.

Mindset
Mountains don't hit back.

tkitna
Originally posted by h1a8
Also Plutonian showed ability to manipulate quantum entanglement. He leveled a freaking mountain with just a snap of his fingers.

I don't know the Plutonian well at all, but i'm not seeing the big deal with this feat. The Sentry is a matter manipulator also.

Surtur
Originally posted by Board Walker
Plutonian psionically manipulates sentry into a piece of paper, or throws him to the heat death of the universe.

What comic did Plutonian turn someone into paper? Issue number. Since I don't recall the guy ever doing that. Plus Sentry isn't even a flesh and blood person.



We literally have scans in this thread showing he wasn't taking solar system busting power compacted into punches. On top of that, look at his fight with the one energy manipulator. I forget his name, but he was the one who was sharing his power with his brother, and once the brother dies all that power goes flowing back into just him. He was f*cking Plutonian up with his powers, and that guy wasn't anywhere near solar system busting.

Originally posted by h1a8
Also Plutonian showed ability to manipulate quantum entanglement. He leveled a freaking mountain with just a snap of his fingers.

Yes and Sentry has fights in the microverse where he and the guy he is fighting are putting out energy flares big enough to be seen by people in the normal universe. Briefly contains the energies of a cosmic cube in his hands, comes back from being exploded, and can also manipulate matter.

Existere
Originally posted by Mindset
Mountains don't hit back. That's what Oberyn thought too.

KingD19
Didn't Sentry only clearly manipulate matter that one time? When they just randomly gave him molecular manipulation so he could fight a weakened Molecule Man and look awesome? Oh, and he made a tiny werewolf in his hand because he could?

bbrem123
You used it in his death sentry form as well.

Squirtle
Originally posted by Surtur
We literally have scans in this thread showing he wasn't taking solar system busting power compacted into punches.


It's BW man... no sense debating him on Superman related stuff (or abhi, in much, much less degree).

KingD19
Originally posted by bbrem123
You used it in his death sentry form as well.

Death Sentry and Sentry are two different beings though. Like I couldn't imagine normal Sentry ripping his head open like a melon and being fine.

Just like Gambit couldn't make poison and stuff.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't Sentry only clearly manipulate matter that one time? When they just randomly gave him molecular manipulation so he could fight a weakened Molecule Man and look awesome? Oh, and he made a tiny werewolf in his hand because he could?

He's manipulated matter non-DS on more than them 2 occasions.

KingD19
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He's manipulated matter non-DS on more than them 2 occasions.

What else has he done?

DarkSaint85
OAS, drop the beat.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by KingD19
What else has he done?

This is all from the respect thread.

Here Sentry changes regular clothespins into his Sentry symbols:

http://i.imgur.com/xKgj7QC.jpg


Here Sentry transmutes a piece of rock into a Healing Orb, which later on protects Hulk from the Void:

http://i.imgur.com/LbNH1mi.jpg


Sentry changes his regular clothes into the Sentry suit:

http://i.imgur.com/z5Xbuyu.jpg

The Void uses his power to restrain the classic Avengers:

http://i.imgur.com/wz4y1kn.jpg

Sentry destroys one of Noh-Varr's weapons with which Lindy was trying to commit suicide:

http://i.imgur.com/H3i6OAv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UJrneOY.jpg


The Void summons black tentacles from the sky and starts attacking the city, while simultaneously morphing the Watchtower around:

http://i.imgur.com/kj75WP7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Imz1dMJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/H1BOPEi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/voy0pOe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dFExPO4.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yxTMzaN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/3xkAnOz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2qSj46f.jpg

I left out some but I could put more in I guess.

KingD19
Cool. From those you put up Sentry's matter manip doesn't seem as widespread as Void's does. Will he be turning into Void during this fight?

And I wonder how their matter manip will clash, as Plutonian can do it as well.

One_Angry_Scot
Originally posted by KingD19
Cool. From those you put up Sentry's matter manip doesn't seem as widespread as Void's does. Will he be turning into Void during this fight?

And I wonder how their matter manip will clash, as Plutonian can do it as well.

I'd put that down to the fact that Sentry doesn't really exert himself unless he needs to. He has the capability to do the same things as the Void (since the Void is really just a creature from Bobs mind). But the difference is the Void doesn't care as much about letting loose compared to Sentry who does (as he is scared of the Void escaping if he does).

Sentry could achieve that same level of Molecular/Matter Manipulation but it's more to do with him actually having to get to the point of doing it.

h1a8
Which Sentry are we using. Because certainly some Sentry will lose here.

bbrem123
I always thought that if it was not specified it was the most recent version.

Horus1
Stalemate? "I'm Ron Burgandy?"

Surtur
Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't Sentry only clearly manipulate matter that one time? When they just randomly gave him molecular manipulation so he could fight a weakened Molecule Man and look awesome? Oh, and he made a tiny werewolf in his hand because he could?

This story clearly speaks to all of us who wish that we too could make a tiny werewolf in our hands. I would take the little guy for midnight strolls and let him feed on homeless people. It would be awesome.

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