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we never saw much of kimimaro, so i was wondering what impressions of his strength ppl got from him

I think he'd tool Asuma.

Well peak Kimimaro was said to be on par with orochimaru... so id go with kimimaro

Speculation allowed, Kimimaro.

By showings, Asuma.

where did it say that kimi could be a match for oro?

it doesn't really say that, but before he was stricken with that disease, he was quite powerful. and even in a weakened state due to the disease, he still nearly killed Rock Lee and Gaara before he died. that counts for something.

yeah but oro > lee + gaara
besides, i think kimi was actually stronger than normal when he appeared in the manga because he was controlling his body with his will alone... i dont think he could feel pain

he couldn't because of that bone layer under his skin that he made after Gaara tried to sand coffin his ass. before that though, he probably just ignored the pain, since the disease probably caused him more harm.

could kakashi even put up a fight then? if what you say is true?

raikiri can pierce nearly anything which is why its considered an S class not an A like chidori, i'm pretty sure kakashi's raikiri can bass through kimimaro's bone layer....

But thats besides the point. i'm still reasonably sure kimimaro wins

if haku can speed in front of the raikiri, who says kimi couldnt evade it?
we've only seen him use it on zabuza, who was held by the ninja hounds (that wouldnt work on kimi) , and pain, who easily ducked it (with only a couple milliseconds of forewarning)... who says he can even do it that fast??

that's exactly it. he dodged Rock Lee's attacks at first like nothing, although R.L. was still recovering from his wounds. but Lee even said himself that Kimimaro was quite agile.

Originally posted by drrylan
if haku can speed in front of the raikiri, who says kimi couldnt evade it?

he didnt "speed" there he teleported with the use of his ice mirrors.

the ice mirrors that werent anywhere near zabuza???
the ice mirrors that were broken by kyuubi naruto???

Originally posted by drrylan
the ice mirrors that werent anywhere near zabuza???
the ice mirrors that were broken by kyuubi naruto???

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/13/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/14/

never noticed that before.
but either way, its not like the ice mirrors just appear in the blink of an eye.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/24/12/

sasuke knew that something was up before it happened

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/24/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/24/13-14/

In the time it took Sasuke to turn his head, the entire set of mirrors was up.

which proves it takes time to set up a mirror... if a brief time

Brief time...As in under a second.

but its still time...

this proves how slow the jutsu actually could be:
this shows the distance between kakashi and zabuza
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/06/
heres when he starts moving
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/10/
here's naruto and haku
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/11/

assuming that the last 2 pages happened at the same time:
it took kakashi a few seconds to reach zabuza, which i could do. and im not a fast runner...

assuming those pages happened in order of appearance:
it took kakashi about 7 seconds to reach zabuza

either way you look at it, its not that quick if it takes him more than 2 seconds to travel less than 5 yards

No.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/infamyRISE/wesker.jpg

you make a fine argument.

Originally posted by drrylan
but its still time...

this proves how slow the jutsu actually could be:
this shows the distance between kakashi and zabuza
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/06/
heres when he starts moving
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/10/
here's naruto and haku
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/30/11/

assuming that the last 2 pages happened at the same time:
it took kakashi a few seconds to reach zabuza, which i could do. and im not a fast runner...

assuming those pages happened in order of appearance:
it took kakashi about 7 seconds to reach zabuza

either way you look at it, its not that quick if it takes him more than 2 seconds to travel less than 5 yards



It wouldn't even take a NORMAL person 7 seconds to reach Zabuza, you're reaching there.

it was stated that there was no one in konoha that could defeat Kimimaro at that time. So i doubt Asume could beat Kimimaro

Where was this stated?