Originally posted by Enyalus
I think The Word takes it.Phoenix might be second.
I like The Word
Always like Kev's input about him
Have u read about the Marquis
Yeah, I've not read 1985, but I have read Old Man Logan and the FF stories he appears in so far.
Way I see it, MJJ was taken out by having his universe nullified. WCP did the same thing to an alternate reality, so...she should beat Jaspers. Clyde's feats right now seem to be ambiguous or villain hyperbole. Gonna hold off on judging him.
The Word, when not getting bitched by multiple things in Vertigo, is very powerful. I go with It for the winner.
Originally posted by EnyalusWay I see it, MJJ was taken out by having his universe nullified.
WCP did the same thing to an alternate reality,
so...she should beat Jaspers.
238 MJJ was taken out by the Celestial Nullifier,
which in turn erased the 238 reality
where that "far weaker" version of MJJ was situated.
(something that was/will & could never work on 616 Jaspers)
WPOTC never nullified any reality, at any time, ever.
It was Scott's decision that nullified Reality 15104, (Here Comes Tomorrow arc)
(a reality where the only heroes were X-Men)
Jean only manipulated Scott into making that decision.
Also, Jean had to be in the White Hot Room to perform said feat,
on top of this,
she even literally claimed
it wasn't easy to extract just Sublime atomically into the WHR.
Anywho, simply put, WPC never nullified anything under her own power,
now the actual Phoenix Force did destroy an alternate Universe,
on two separate occasions, (Jean was consumed as well)
unfortunately,
those were 'What If' issues,
technically canon, (although they're never reference in any Handbooks of any kind
but major bullshit takes place within them,
which is why most readers ignore them all together.
(some 'What ifs' are good though, I must admit)