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Thing vs. Sabretooh?

Fight takes place in an invulnerable astrojump.

Both characters are at their most recent powerlevels (not counting house of M). Sabretooth currently has adamantium and retains upgrades from Weapon X.

Who wins?

what's an astrojump?

are you serious about this matchup?..SABRETOOTH WINS

An astrojump is one of those inflatable things that kids jump around in. They always have a motor you can hear running in the background... they're fun if you're young, maybe even if you're older.

The Thing says ''IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!!'' and then he realizes his guts have been ripped out.

lol.... comic fights in an Astrojump. Pure genius.


Sabretooth wins...

oooh loop hole loop hole how big is the astro jump and are there ring outs if so thing stomps sabretooth flys out the end .... if theres ring outs

Originally posted by thundercracker
oooh loop hole loop hole how big is the astro jump and are there ring outs if so thing stomps sabretooth flys out the end .... if theres ring outs

No ring outs! It's in the shape of a castle so it has a roof.

No adamantium for Creed. Don't think he had any at the time of his demise.

Clobberrin time

Happy Birthday, friend

Ben FTW

900lbs vs 170.000lbs

Sabs has gone into slugfests with Rogue (who he ko.ed) and Ms. Marvel and held his own. He'd lose the majority to Ben, but Victor will give him a hell of a fight.

... and Sabretooth can lift way more then 900lbs

No Adamantium for Creed than Ben crushes him with ease.

Ben with a slight amount of effort.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Clobberrin time

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Ben with a slight amount of effort. I think Sabes is still strong enough to knock Ben around, but Momma Grimm's son should pull through in the end.

Grim takes the majority easily but i wouldn't put it passt sabes for at most a couple wins.

spite?

Sabretooth still has greater speed, reflexes and an insane healing factor that, far above Wolverine's.

*Edited to erase the evidance*

Originally posted by srankmissingnin


I assume you mean Sabretooth, not Thing?

Yes.

Not sure what was going through my head xD

Originally posted by llagrok
Yes.

Not sure what was going through my head xD

Hehe

Sabretooth would do far from bad in this fight :/

Sabs best chance of winning would be to shove his arm straight down Thing's throat, then rip it off at the shoulder.

Ben applauds Snaggletooth to death.

Sissytooth loses.

Originally posted by TrollDog
Sissytooth loses.

how about snagglepuss?

sassafras?

Originally posted by geshien
how about snagglepuss?

sassafras? Snuggletooth loses.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d165/buzzygirl06/snagglepuss.jpg

The Thing is way too much for Sabes.

10/10 For the Ever-Loving-Blue-Eyed-Thing.

No adamantium?

Rock > Flesh
Rock > Bones

Grimmbo shakes off any phys dmg by a non adamantium clad Creed.

9/10 Grimm

the 1/10 is reserved for the Eye gouge Sabes could get if he's fast enough - Pai Mei style!

ben grimm 8/10

Thing in a stomp .... this is a non contest.

The sad thing about this is the fact that you all dont know that bone clawed wolverine ripped through ben face.

Sabertooth 7/10

Originally posted by carver9
The sad thing about this is the fact that you all dont know that bone clawed wolverine ripped through ben face.

That never happened.

ben 7-8/10

if you take the wendigo incident into consideration it's creed 10/10.

Originally posted by carver9
The sad thing about this is the fact that you all dont know that bone clawed wolverine ripped through ben face.

Sabertooth 7/10 When?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ben 7-8/10

if you take the wendigo incident into consideration it's creed 10/10.

dude, that was god awful writing.

Originally posted by geshien
dude, that was god awful writing. i know, thats why i left it separate.

Adamant Sabes

Current Thing

Setting: Building (NO PREP)

Sabes 9/10

Thing should be able to KO him, but thats not how it works in the comics.

Sabes ftw

By the time Thing gets in a few hits, Creed would have cut the shit outta him.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/971/wolverinev3054pg17.th.jpg

Sabretooth for the win.

Originally posted by The Nuul
By the time Thing gets in a few hits, Creed would have cut the shit outta him.

Scratched,,,not cut. Sabertooths claws arent that freaking long. If you want to bring the eyes into the battle then so be it.

Reality, the Thing should be bringing buildings down on the guy if he was bloodlusted.

What size is that building they're in?

I'd say a 10 story duplex unless Creed has already survived something on that line. If so, i'll increase the size of the building. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing002.gif

Thing.

Sabre-tooth, he superior in every senses except strength and durability, however Sabre-tooth possess greater damage soak.

this is a tuff fight, I think thing wins 6/10 though

Sabre-tooth 9/10 with Adamatium

Even with out it I give him the majority. He may even be able to injure Thing hide with bone claws and is extremely durable even without the aid of a healing factor

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Sabre-tooth 9/10 with Adamatium

Even with out it I give him the majority. He may even be able to injure Thing hide with bone claws and is extremely durable even without the aid of a healing factor sabretooth isn't as much a threat to thing as logan though, even with adamantium, simply because his claws are too short to do any critical damage

sure, he'll hurt thing pretty bad, but Thing is VASTLY stronger than Creed, and if Creed gets caught by thing in a grip, then its good night for Creed

and yes creed is crazy durable, but I don't think he can take a prolonged pummeling by thing..and thing is a great fighter, not a typical brick

Thing brings the building down on top of both of them. Climbs out, then if needed starts tossing big chunks debris at Creed.

Originally posted by Starscream M
sabretooth isn't as much a threat to thing as logan though, even with adamantium, simply because his claws are too short to do any critical damage

There a lot longer then you think. at last a few inches which is enough to damage Thing, he also has the strength to do a lot of damage with them

Originally posted by Starscream M
sure, he'll hurt thing pretty bad, but Thing is VASTLY stronger than Creed, and if Creed gets caught by thing in a grip, then its good night for Creed

and yes creed is crazy durable, but I don't think he can take a prolonged pummeling by thing..and thing is a great fighter, not a typical brick

If Thing catches him and even if he does, Sabertooth and keep on assaulting him.

You be surprized what he can take. Unlike Wolverine he does not have to heal vast amounts of organ damage from attacks, his durability alone take the brunt of such blunt forces.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
There a lot longer then you think. at last a few inches which is enough to damage Thing, he also has the strength to do a lot of damage with them



If Thing catches him and even if he does, Sabertooth and keep on assaulting him.

You be surprized what he can take. Unlike Wolverine he does not have to heal vast amounts of organ damage from attacks, his durability alone take the brunt of such blunt forces. creed's claws are about 2 to 3 inches long, so they will certainly cause damage to thing's hide...but it can't hit thing's vital parts like logan's claws can

and if thing catches creed's arms...creed can't continue assaulting thing

Originally posted by Starscream M
creed's claws are about 2 to 3 inches long, so they will certainly cause damage to thing's hide...but it can't hit thing's vital parts like logan's claws can

and if thing catches creed's arms...creed can't continue assaulting thing

They are longer I believe. I will try and find out were the length been stated or shown.


As for hitting Vital area's sure they can, he has a lot more power behind his attacks then Wolverine.

How is he suppose to catch a individual arms who likely faster then spider man? Catching one is a strength, catching both it just not going to happen. Also Creed kicking Thing in the face in such an scenario would catch Thing by surprise and he likely drop him, which Black Panther I believe did before, and Creed pack a far bigger punch

Originally posted by tkitna
I'd say a 10 story duplex unless Creed has already survived something on that line. If so, i'll increase the size of the building. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing002.gif





You're not the thread starter uhuh

sabretooth is that powerful? i think thing stomps him

Thing couldn't lay a finger on mind controlled Wolverine who for one moment actually wanted to be beaten.

What are the instances of Ben tagging Logan?

1. When Logan was dazed.
2. When he was worrying about Ben's condition and was apologizing for practically tearing his face off.
3. In X4, when Logan had Thing dead to rights... he got hit only because he was too damn close and didn't want to strike a fatal blow.


Now you've to realize that Creed's faster than Logan even w/o adamantium.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

Now you've to realize that Creed's faster than Logan even w/o adamantium. creed isn't really faster than logan.

also creed is a far bigger target for ben to hit than logan, who is tiny.

Originally posted by Starscream M
creed isn't really faster than logan.

also creed is a far bigger target for ben to hit than logan, who is tiny.

Pre-Weapon X Logan states that Creed's faster than him.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5924/sabesspeed.th.jpg

Wolverine vs. Pre-Death Hunt 'Tooth. Narrator states that Creed's faster...

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9725/uncannyxmen21311vssabre.th.jpg
Credit goes to jinzin.

Now let's take a look at Creed with all his upgrades...

http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5996/sabes91fhyl4.th.gif
Again, courtesy of jin.

exactly because right there it stats hes faster stronger bigger an dmore durable and his claw are just as dangerous.

Therefore Sabes is declared the WINNER!

W/o adamantium Grimm ftw without a doubt. With adamantium he gets beat beat-as Creed is faster than him and has the strength to tear him up with adamantium

Originally posted by d3str0ya10
exactly because right there it stats hes faster stronger bigger an dmore durable and his claw are just as dangerous.

His claws aren't just as dangerous though, no matter which way you cut it (heh) Wolverine's claws are far better.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
His claws aren't just as dangerous though, no matter which way you cut it (heh) Wolverine's claws are far better.

True.

Originally posted by Starscream M
creed's claws are about 2 to 3 inches long, so they will certainly cause damage to thing's hide...but it can't hit thing's vital parts like logan's claws can

and if thing catches creed's arms...creed can't continue assaulting thing Creed's claws are retractable and can well exceed 3 inches in length.

Originally posted by jinzin
Creed's claws are retractable and can well exceed 3 inches in length.

So how does he bend his fingers?

The Thing would pound him into the groung he has fought people stronger than him and faster with no skin off his back. Thing out maches him in strength any way so if he wanted to he could use his sabes claws to cut his head off lol.End of story

Originally posted by The Red Light
The Thing would pound him into the groung he has fought people stronger than him and faster with no skin off his back. Thing out maches him in strength any way so if he wanted to he could use his sabes claws to cut his head off lol.End of story you don't read many comics do you?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So how does he bend his fingers?
WITH STYLLLLLE!

Dude come on sabe is not that strong even with antie can he for say pick up a space ship or a whole street. Why cant he make sabe kill him self. Plus not things style but what ever.

Originally posted by The Red Light
Dude come on sabe is not that strong even with antie can he for say pick up a space ship or a whole street. Why do you think he needs to be able to pick up a space ship or street to beat thing?

Originally posted by The Red Light
Dude come on sabe is not that strong even with antie can he for say pick up a space ship or a whole street. Why cant he make sabe kill him self. Plus not things style but what ever.
lol you realizes strength is not everything correct?


Sabre-tooth is faster, more skilled, more agile, better reflexes, and better damage soak.

All Thing has is strength and durability, however the durability is a mute point due to Sabre-tooth superior damage soak.

LISTEN you thing lovers think strength is the only possible way to winning you say "oh who ever is stronger wins" but no one ever mentions skill sabes adum can cut through the things skin and sabes skill is out of the roof as read in handbook and proven by him owning/man-handling she-hulk with pure skill. SABES WINS and his claws are just as dangerous. wolverines may be longer but sabes is less obvious meaning if he got into a fight the opponent wouldn't notice his claws until they impaled him with wolvie you automatically know to stay away which gives away the element of surprise

true he ia faster but will soon mess up and get snatched by the thing but not saying if he could hold out that long. if he could snatch him then strength has no bounds for thing in this fight. good point thou.

Originally posted by The Red Light
true he ia faster but will soon mess up and get snatched by the thing but not saying if he could hold out that long. if he could snatch him then strength has no bounds for thing in this fight. good point thou.

TY someone who is understanding.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/971/wolverinev3054pg17.th.jpg

Sabretooth for the win.

Hold on you think the thing can get hurt?

yeh, the thing can get hurt if his skin rock barrier gets penetrated which sabes is fully capable of doing.

Originally posted by The Red Light
Hold on you think the thing can get hurt?

He got before. Adamantium isn't called the miracle metal for nothing.

EXACTLY and it cleary states adumantium can cut through any substance know to man-kind i doubt some mildly enhanced rock shells would even stand a chance.

Originally posted by The Red Light
Hold on you think the thing can get hurt?
yes do I need to show scans of him being cut and stabbed?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yes do I need to show scans of him being cut and stabbed?

yes please im inerested i wanna see them could you provide me please man?

Originally posted by jinzin
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Thing
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Wolverine rips things face off with a single strike; He gets knocked through buildings and runs back to the fight while Thing's double over:
1. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2346/ff7418aa4.jpg
2. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7487/ff7419wr2.jpg

The damage:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8431/thingqt4.jpg
Ben's reaction to it.
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1117/fantasticfour380eq7.jpg


Wolverine and Thing have a brief encounter: Wolvie only needs one clean shot to put Thing down:
1. http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6671/ffthinghe3.jpg
2. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5112/ffthing2hc8.jpg
3. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3907/ffthing3ca0.jpg

Wolverine tackles Thing through a wall and door having him dead to rights; Wolverine has Thing dead to rights AGAIN a minute later but Invisible Woman stops them:
1. http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6944/x4thingae8.jpg
2. http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5893/x4thing2wc0.jpg
3. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9871/x4thing3eb6.jpg
4. http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5627/x4thing4vw6.jpg
5. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9263/x4thing5vp5.jpg

(non 616) Even Ultimate Wolverine punks Thing out:
1. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7775/amax0006vc9.jpg
2. http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7100/bmax0008tt8.jpg


Here you go, from jinzin respect thread.

All i am saying is he is rock and thus not humen come on and if he were to chose to claw him to death it would take him a long time it would be like diging through a mine in the groung.

Originally posted by The Red Light
All i am saying is he is rock and thus not humen come on and if he were to chose to claw him to death it would take him a long time it would be like diging through a mine in the groung.

He is human just mutated, he has all the same organs just denser.


........also are you just gunna sit there and ignore the evidence presented?

We are not talking about wolvy we are talking about sabes

Originally posted by The Red Light
We are not talking about wolvy we are talking about sabes

sabes is stronger soo thats makes it even EASIER!!!! WOW he even gave you the scans saying sabes is larger faster stronger more durable BETTER.

who physically superior to wolverine in every way and also posses adamatium......same results just faster

nm then what ever i throw up my hands on this one hes rock thats all i got to say the only reason wolvy wins is becaues he is smarter than the thing and sabes.

Didn't Thing kayo Logan once also?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't Thing kayo Logan once also?
Yes prior to his healing factor upgrades. He was thrown full force into thing by rogue flying full speed I believe. He kept his claws in and floored Thing. Thing got up and Logan was dazed which if not mistaken Mr. Fantastic comments on Thing being lucky.


not sure why this matter though.

Originally posted by The Red Light
nm then what ever i throw up my hands on this one hes rock thats all i got to say the only reason wolvy wins is becaues he is smarter than the thing and sabes.
.....are you even watching what transpired in the thread?

The reason he wins, is because he holds every advantage save strength and durability. However durability is a mute point since Wolverine can take more punches from Thing then Thing can take stab from him.


You keep saying rock over and over, thats not an argument to stand on, do you understand? Just because Thing is covered in organic like rock does not make him win. He still has organs, muscles, blood, arteries ect.

Prove to me that he has spilled blood and organs have come out of him.

WHICH wolvie or saBES CAN CUT THROUGH damn WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU not UNDERSTAND HE HAS BEEN CUT BY WOLVIE AND HARMED NOW IF WOLVIE WAS BLOOD-LUSTED AND KEPT GOING HE WOULD A SHAVED EM DRY AS A BONES AND SO WOULD SABES

Prove in threads that he has spilt blood and organs have come out of him if you can i will stop posting.

Ok, so 3 pages now and the argument is:

Creed slashes Ben. Ben dies.

Creed 10/10.

Originally posted by The Red Light
Prove in threads that he has spilt blood and organs have come out of him if you can i will stop posting.

never said his organs were coming out I said he has organs.


stop what? I already showed wolverine down Thing with a stab. I also already showed then face get horribly disfigured by a single slash to the point you can see all the muscles in his face.

He ended up wearing a mask for like a year or more.

I don't have anything more to prove, I showed Thing going down and being damage by adamatium claws. Nothing more is needed, there really nothing to debate here

allright i will stop posting what is the authers name that made the comic?

Which of the scans are you referring to? Also you really like the Thing don't you.


I also don't care if you countinue to post, but to ignore evidences and to present no arguement other then he made of rock, is just a fast way to get labbelled a fanboy and to be ignored.

I do like the thing vary much. ah all the threads on wolvy what are the authors?

Originally posted by The Red Light
I do like the thing vary much. ah all the threads on wolvy what are the authors?

There scans, and I not sure I don't know of the top of my head. One of them the one in which Thing is stabbed is written if not mistaken by Mark Miller. Why does it matter anyways?

I like the classics and not new author thats why i made the fuss thats why i said nm.

You don't like new authors? Mark Millers not new.

i was talking about stan lee and his writing.

Sabes gets the same treatment as Wolverine does here.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8296/logan12jz.jpg

Originally posted by tkitna
Sabes gets the same treatment as Wolverine does here.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8296/logan12jz.jpg Oh sh!t, it's on now!

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh sh!t, it's on now!

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Oh sh!t, it's on now!

Originally posted by tkitna
Sabes gets the same treatment as Wolverine does here.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8296/logan12jz.jpg

Notice the part were it says he still dazed. Even for the time that a low showing of Logan healing factor vs brick attacks.

or the fact Logan healing factor is vastly stronger now then it was, oh and the fact ever other time they encounter one another Logan's either KOing, or brutall scaring thing or has him dead to rights.

Originally posted by The Red Light
i was talking about stan lee and his writing.
Stan lee has not written for like 40 years. I not even sure he still was writing when wolverine character was created

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Notice the part were it says he still dazed. Even for the time that a low showing of Logan healing factor vs brick attacks.

or the fact Logan healing factor is vastly stronger now then it was, oh and the fact ever other time they encounter one another Logan's either KOing, or brutall scaring thing or has him dead to rights.

I know BH. I was just messing around.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Stan lee has not written for like 40 years. I not even sure he still was writing when wolverine character was created

Now, now,,,,,,,how can we all forget this book from Stan?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3556/3162/320/Ravage2099-1.jpg

Well, now that I think about, its pretty easy to forget.

lol lee wrote that no way lol

Originally posted by Battlehammer
never said his organs were coming out I said he has organs.


stop what? I already showed wolverine down Thing with a stab. I also already showed then face get horribly disfigured by a single slash to the point you can see all the muscles in his face.

He ended up wearing a mask for like a year or more.

I don't have anything more to prove, I showed Thing going down and being damage by adamatium claws. Nothing more is needed, there really nothing to debate here
It was also stated in the next comic that Thing had never been in such agony like that in his life.

Don't believe everything you read.

Except this.

And this.

And this.

And this.

smartass comment from Mindset?

NO WAY!

Originally posted by jinzin
It was also stated in the next comic that Thing had never been in such agony like that in his life.
after it happen he was bent over in agony, Logan even let Thing punch him through a punch of buildings he felt so bad lol.

Originally posted by jinzin
smartass comment from Mindset?

NO WAY! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/smp57/Misc/yahweh.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Didn't Thing kayo Logan once also?

That was already dazed pre-FA Wolverine.


d3str0ya10, was stealing my sign really necessary? I mean, can't you make one yourself or just ask some sign maker to do so for you? Many of them take requests here, you just need to look around.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW


d3str0ya10, was stealing my sign really necessary? I mean, can't you make one yourself or just ask some sign maker to do so for you? Many of them take requests here, you just need to look around.

yeah, destroyer, that sig doesn't belong to you...change it

I love that sig...so hilarious

sorry but were bros so live with it =D right stiltman?

No Change the sig.

Originally posted by Mindset
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/smp57/Misc/yahweh.jpg


lol

Made me lol'd, too.

there we go thats better!

who wins?

Adamantium Sabretooth obviously has a chance if he goes in through the eyes....Maybe.

But non Adamantium tooth stands a chance of getting limbs ripped off in CQC with Thing. He's altogether too squishy to take flesh/bone/muscle crumbling blows from rock man.

Rock > Flesh and we'll have no " Thats if Thing can land a single blow..." shite because if he's close enough to hit Thing, then he's close enough to Get hit!!

Honestly, I put Sabertooth with Wolverine in fighting ability. Adamantium Sabes is able to slash Ben to peices while normal Sabes may have a few problems doing anything to Ben.

Originally posted by PRAYERRUN
Honestly, I put Sabertooth with Wolverine in fighting ability. Adamantium Sabes is able to slash Ben to peices while normal Sabes may have a few problems doing anything to Ben.

Yes but Sabes claws are not 1 foot long, they look about 3inches at the most, and Grimms rock goes a lot deeper than that, and any prolonged slashing at the same place will end in Sabes getting caught with a big blow. And even though Sabes has Grimm beat in MA, Grimm is a fighter none-the-less.

Ben Grimm ftw. Man gets no respect and the line must be drawn here.

While Sabretooth>Wolverine, Logan is a better fight for Ben(Still think Ben would whoop that ass) because of his reach and small size. Creed is a larger target for Ben and has no adamantium skeleton as of right ow that I'm aware of.

Sabertooth 8/10, this is almost a stomp 10/10. Adamantium sabertooth could EASILY ripp through ben and being beaten by either wolverine or sabertooth ISNT a low showing.

yup thing woudl rip sabretooth in half (without his adamantium)

he too strong and if written without PIS sabretoth would be a broken man

Originally posted by carver9
Sabertooth 8/10, this is almost a stomp 10/10. Adamantium sabertooth could EASILY ripp through ben and being beaten by either wolverine or sabertooth ISNT a low showing. Please......this is no stomp. Creed only retains one advantage Logan had and that's the fighting skills. He has no adamantium skeleton or 12 inc claws to boot. Thing wins.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Please......this is no stomp. Creed only retains one advantage Logan had and that's the fighting skills. He has no adamantium skeleton or 12 inc claws to boot. Thing wins.

Creed maintains a lot of advantages. Creed is faster, a better fighter, and has a better tool in this fight.

Wolverine one shotted thing with his claws and then he ripped things face off before. Sabertooth would kill thing. Like I said before, this is almost a none fight.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Please......this is no stomp. Creed only retains one advantage Logan had and that's the fighting skills. He has no adamantium skeleton or 12 inc claws to boot. Thing wins.
If sabre-tooth posses his adamatium this would be a very one sided fight. It a faster, stronger far more ruthless version of wolverine who has been so durable that MS marvel though tired from fighting was unable to due a pressure point becauses his body was so dense.

Originally posted by carver9
Creed maintains a lot of advantages. Creed is faster, a better fighter, and has a better tool in this fight.

Wolverine one shotted thing with his claws and then he ripped things face off before. Sabertooth would kill thing. Like I said before, this is almost a none fight. Creed claw's are nowhere near as large or as long as Logan's. This means Creed will have to get closer than Logan which is no good thing for him seeing as he has no adamantium skeleton. Creed's a better fighter than Logan? Since when? Logan's superior fighting skill and tactics is what lets him compete with Creed.


Originally posted by Battlehammer
If sabre-tooth posses his adamatium this would be a very one sided fight. It a faster, stronger far more ruthless version of wolverine who has been so durable that MS marvel though tired from fighting was unable to due a pressure point becauses his body was so dense. If. The thread starter said nothing of it and as far as I'm aware current Creed doesn't posses it. Meaning he doesn't have it for this fight. And Ms. Marvel was no Grimm as far as strength goes.

Sabes literally tears Ben a new one. Grim may be stronger but Creed is still almost ridicoulusly powerful, vicious and an uber naturaly skilled fighter.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Creed is still almost ridicoulusly powerful, If you are referring to strength, please explain.

Originally posted by Darth Martin


If. The thread starter said nothing of it and as far as I'm aware current Creed doesn't posses it. Meaning he doesn't have it for this fight. And Ms. Marvel was no Grimm as far as strength goes.

Current creed is dead........

Originally posted by Battlehammer
Current creed is dead........ Did he posses the adamantium skeleton before he was deceased?

Originally posted by carver9
Sabertooth 8/10, this is almost a stomp 10/10. Adamantium sabertooth could EASILY ripp through ben and being beaten by either wolverine or sabertooth ISNT a low showing. Please. Don't kid yourself, son.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
If you are referring to strength, please explain.

Take a look in the respect thread

I can't be bothered. Just tell me his strength class because I doubt he's higher than Class 10 at his best.

Ben knocks him out.

If people aren't going to use the search when they've been here long enough, warnings are going to be handed out.

Merging with FIVE other threads.

Thing wins every time against upgraded Sabretooth without adamantium.

Fully-upgraded Sabretooth wins a majority, if not all, against Thing.