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just wondering just how much more formidable would these three be if they had superhuman strength. Like say cap and daredevil as strong as say spidey, how much more of a threat would they be in a fight. also diamond-head seemed to be a character who could have gone further if his strength was a little more amped. If he were as strong as Namor or wonderman there really could have been some interesting slugfests. How would he do against these two? or someone like herc or even red hulk? just wonderin

Not so found of Diamond head. But if Cap had Spiderman level strength. I don't think Cap would hold back as much. IMO he should be able to straight up beat the crap out of anyone who he had trouble with in the past, beast, wolverine, Namor... Well in the Ultimate Universe Cap was able to land some nice blows and temporarily subdue hulk but I still don't think it's enough to put down hulk much less red hulk.

Daredevil would be the same. Even thought he relies alot on his agility his attacks. Against the hulks I just don't think Spiderman level strength is enough to put down hulk. Even if its 20 punches for everyone 1 hulk punch. Still not enough if anything it would only slowly feed Hulk's power.

If Cap had Spider-Man level strength..................then he'd be able to beat him. On KMC atleast.


Seriously if Daredevil or Cap got superpowers outside of there existing ones I wouldn't like them anymore. The reason why street levelers are so badass is because they kick ass without powers. Daredevil has powers but not like speed or strength.

Originally posted by sharky137
just wondering just how much more formidable would these three be if they had superhuman strength. Like say cap and daredevil as strong as say spidey, how much more of a threat would they be in a fight. also diamond-head seemed to be a character who could have gone further if his strength was a little more amped. If he were as strong as Namor or wonderman there really could have been some interesting slugfests. How would he do against these two? or someone like herc or even red hulk? just wonderin

i think they are already much more formidable (proportionally) than SM to be honest , and will be even more so with SM level strength
SM cant really hit with 10 tons impact , i think i remember an all out pissed SM, i think running on adrenalin hitting IM with 8 tons or something along those lines but still a regular SM in a fight without duress and not holding back can hit no harder than 3-5 tons as he doesn't have the skill or training to allow him to consistently hit as hard as he can lift

however CAP with his vastly superior fighting skills can match some striking feats of a class 10 (2- 10 ton range) charecter without the said upgrade , real world boxers can punch at about 1000 lbs... there are 1500 lbs kick wihthout super powers ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw ) ... they just use physics that well

the guys that hit with this impact don't look as if they can barely military press lift say a quarter (250 lbs /113kg) , although they can hit several times harder than they can lift
a master combatant like CAP& DD will be able to do so aswell

so as a result if the upgrade CAP/DD would be able to hit with class 50+ (25 - 50 tons +) punches and kick even harder , tehy woudl be euqlly durable to blunt force impacts but they would do alot more damage than SM ever could

cap with his peak human strength can hit with at leat 1 ton punch impact and DD 1000 lbs like the expert 'human' boxer

cap would be beter than DD with the strength as he has more skills and is already stronger than DD and has had experience knowing what its like to be 10x stronger than the average joe


(oh yh cap already had superuman strength for a short period - 3 tons strength )

...but good for spidey they'll never have the class 10 strength or superior physiology he has accompanied withhis strength

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Seriously if Daredevil or Cap got superpowers outside of there existing ones I wouldn't like them anymore. The reason why street levelers are so badass is because they kick ass without powers. Daredevil has powers but not like speed or strength.

Agreed. Cap and DD wouldn't be as interesting becuause its just relatively normal dudes accomplishing stuff through training and skillss same thing with batman. If tnhey ever gave him like superman levels stats it wouldjust be retarded but on KMC anything goes

cap doesn't need class 10 strength.

cap > u.s. agent