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This battle takes place in the senate chambers, everything goes!

Your kidding... Right?

Deep and inconclusive this battle is, the answer shrouded in mystery. Meditate on this I will.

Revan and Malak lose, guy.

Uhhhh, the most powerful sith ever, and another sith, against an ancient sith that is very powerful, and his apprentice the sucks. idk, is this ROTS Sidious? If its DE then Sidious wins. If ROTS, he wins just not as easily..........

ROTS Sidious.

Then he still win but Dooku may die because Malak or Revan held him off for 5 minutes.

I completly agree. But more likely Revan would fight sidious because sidious is far to strong for malak.

Yep. Dooku is screwed if he fighter Revan, and Malak is screwed if he fight Sidious. I think it would be great to see Sidious and Revan fight however. Revan may win 2/10, but only thru mishap. maybe Anakin died............... that would suck for Sidious as he wouldnt live long enough to train another successor. He would die of age first, as it would take about 20 years or so to find, test, and train a new apprentice.

If Dooku could defeat malak then he could go help sidious finish off revan, (If revan is not already dead.)

um sids solo's well maybe not cause its ROTS i dunno how much powerful he got from ROTS to DE but either way Sids rocks revan within 5-10 minutes and then since you guys are saying malak would fight tyrannus then he would without a doubt end up killing malak but i think sids would finish malak off before dooku has the chance.

ROTS Sidious will take longer to kill Revan than 5-10 minutes. Revan was said by many to be very powerful and a good duelist. He could hold out 30 minutes at least, maybe more. DE Sidious is just Star Wars Superman.

Originally posted by Incanus
ROTS Sidious will take longer to kill Revan than 5-10 minutes. Revan was said by many to be very powerful and a good duelist. He could hold out 30 minutes at least, maybe more. DE Sidious is just Star Wars Superman.

even sids as of ROTS smokes the featless wander that is Revan. We have nothing substantial on just how powerful he was.

I agree with Incanus. It would definatley take sidious longer than 5-10 minutes to kill revan. More like 20 minutes because revan can hold his own in a saber contest against sidious. But when sidious really starts to use the force revan has no chance.

Yeah, I would say its the force that kill Revan, not a saber. Malak just gets pwned because he is a *****.

I don't think revan can stop the sith lightning sidious would use on him. And Malak definately cant stop the lightning dooku woud throw at him.

Prove that Revan can hold his own against sidious. You just saying that he can holds NO merit.

what has revan done with a light saber that can even compare to what sidious did in ROTS?

well lets see? he's killed about six different sith including malak.

ZOMG OWNAGE!!


Yeah and sidious killed 3 of the strongest swordsman in sw history in mere seconds while being out of practise for 13 years.

I also forgot how sidious as of DE could move faster than the naked eye could see.

name then and malak<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<ROTS Sidious in everything.

those 6 sith how good were they? and you don't KNOW that he killed them show me cannon evidence that he killed those sith without help from someone else.

may i add that he also killed mandalore the ultimate alone.

Big deal, even padawans can crush mandalore with teh force.

that is true but you must admit revan is more powerful than dooku and could defeat him.

Sidious > revan. End of story. And dooku would beat malak and that will allow him and sidious to double rape revan.

Originally posted by bayhunter12
that is true but you must admit revan is more powerful than dooku and could defeat him.

No he isn't. We have no feats we don't know how poerful he is all we have is Kriea's word which = poop. Nothing she says aside from right before she dies can be taken as fact.

NONE of the jedi he killed have proven themselves to be as good with a blade as Dooku. Infact none of them including Revan himself have ANY feats whatsoever with a blade especially in comparison to the 3rd or 4th BEST lightsaber combatant during the Golden era of the jedi.

Bayhunter all you are doing is telling us what YOU THINK nothing you say is substantial.

He said Revan is more powerful than DOOKU, you are avoiding the subject. You must have Dooku up ur ass and Sidious on the other side.

Right so whoever disagrees that revan isn't more powerful than so and so means he has so and so up his ass.

Dude seriously shut up, your getting on everybodies nerves with your constant fanwanking and blatant idiocy.

Sidious solos... Dooku could also beat either Revan or Malak but I doubt he could beat both.

Originally posted by ares834
Sidious solos... Dooku could also beat either Revan or Malak but I doubt he could beat both.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
Prove that Revan can hold his own against sidious. You just saying that he can holds NO merit.

what has revan done with a light saber that can even compare to what sidious did in ROTS?

Prove that he can't. You are talking as if you have evidence that Revan could not.

Kotor3
Prove that he can't. You are talking as if you have evidence that Revan could not. Prove there isn't a invisible, intangible unicorn sitting on your head.

Welcome to logic. You make a claim, you back it up. You don't tell others to explain why it isn't valid. So we repeat:

Uhhh, Revan was canonically a good swordsmen, i think against he Sidious he could last as long as Mce, but still lose. Maybe make the fight longer. Sidious would NOT wtf pwn him.

Originally posted by Eminence
Prove there isn't a invisible, intangible unicorn sitting on your head.

Welcome to logic. You make a claim, you back it up. You don't tell others to explain why it isn't valid. So we repeat:

Not surprise you did not understand my statement.
Since we do not know enough about Revan's personal combat feats, statements about what he can and cannot do should not be made. If they are they should be taken in the context of an opinion or speculation not fact.

Neither one can prove that Revan can or cannot stand up to ROTS Sidious and hold his own one on one. So there is nothing to prove. There is only opinion and speculation until more evidence comes out.

Originally posted by Kotor3
Prove that he can't. You are talking as if you have evidence that Revan could not.

First off you still have yet to show any CANON evidence as to how good revan is with a blade.

second there so NO canon evedince for just how powerful Revan was.

Every conclusion that you are I or anyone can make is all through our own inferences. Which isn't substantial evidence in debates.

by Incanus
Uhhh, Revan was canonically a good swordsmen, i think against he Sidious he could last as long as Mce, but still lose. Maybe make the fight longer. Sidious would NOT wtf pwn him.

Ya Revan I think was the BEST swordsman in his era BUT in comparison to the 2nd or 3rd BEST swordsman in the golden age of the jedi well Revan can't even compare because we don't know just how good he was canonically.

He beat a star forge imbued malak alone BUT it ISN'T canon that he used a lightsaber. He could have used grenades or a gun and the force.

You guys Revan is my favorite SW char ( I don't care what anyone else says) BUT you can't let your bias and personal inferences cloud your judgment.

now show me with CANON evidence that Revan is anywhere NEAR sidious's or Dooku's level in lightsaber combat. Keep in mind there are only 2 people better than they are in the PT that's Yoda and mace.(although mace vs sidious sabers is debatable).

Originally posted by Kotor3
Not surprise you did not understand my statement.
Since we do not know enough about Revan's personal combat feats, statements about what he can and cannot do should not be made. If they are they should be taken in the context of an opinion or speculation not fact.

Neither one can prove that Revan can or cannot stand up to ROTS Sidious and hold his own one on one. So there is nothing to prove. There is only opinion and speculation until more evidence comes out.

Exactly there is NO substantial info on Revan BUT to think he can go head to head for a while against THE 2 most powerful being in the SW cosmos is just plain assinine.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
First off you still have yet to show any CANON evidence as to how good revan is with a blade.

second there so NO canon evedince for just how powerful Revan was.

Every conclusion that you are I or anyone can make is all through our own inferences. Which isn't substantial evidence in debates.



Ya Revan I think was the BEST swordsman in his era BUT in comparison to the 2nd or 3rd BEST swordsman in the golden age of the jedi well Revan can't even compare because we don't know just how good he was canonically.

He beat a star forge imbued malak alone BUT it ISN'T canon that he used a lightsaber. He could have used grenades or a gun and the force.

You guys Revan is my favorite SW char ( I don't care what anyone else says) BUT you can't let your bias and personal inferences cloud your judgment.

now show me with CANON evidence that Revan is anywhere NEAR sidious's or Dooku's level in lightsaber combat. Keep in mind there are only 2 people better than they are in the PT that's Yoda and mace.(although mace vs sidious sabers is debatable).



Exactly there is NO substantial info on Revan BUT to think he can go head to head for a while against THE 2 most powerful being in the SW cosmos is just plain assinine.

I agree with your statement. It make much more sense then the ones you made earlier. If you were saying the same thing then I apologize.

Uhh, yes he DID kill tereantateks by himself. I fyou disagree, go play KOTOR and go to Korriban, when you do the final test you have to kill 2 of them. Anyone who has beat that game could verify that. And no the dueling ring cant be proven because he had no command of the force at the time. Why cant anything Kreia says about Revan be taken seriously? It had even been said at the end to me.

Originally posted by Incanus
Uhh, yes he DID kill tereantateks by himself. I fyou disagree, go play KOTOR and go to Korriban, when you do the final test you have to kill 2 of them. Anyone who has beat that game could verify that. And no the dueling ring cant be proven because he had no command of the force at the time. Why cant anything Kreia says about Revan be taken seriously? It had even been said at the end to me. You're right in that Revan did canonically face those two terentateks... but who said he faced him in combat. More than once I simply used Stealth to sneak by them.


And the only thing that Kreia ever said that can be taken as truth is her dialogue at the end of a Light Sided game. And most of that's rubbish in terms of a combat scenario. She was the Lord of Betrayal for a reason, and not just because she herself was betrayed.

You need to face the fact that there is not ONE conclusive power or attribute that Revan's character can claim as canon. Only deeds, no specifics.

True. Thats what sucks about making a guy that alot of people will like and want to know if he could beat other people, but not giving him anything canon.

Originally posted by Incanus
Wookieepedia crap
Congratulations! You can copy and paste!

Why can't people just stop using Revan or Malak in threads... This thing just repeats itself time and time again.