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Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32092715/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/?GT1=43001

The guys was arrested inside his own house when there is plenty of proof he actually lives there which reminds me:

Chappelle years ago

In a suburban neighborhood it happens to a well known Harvard scholar who is a friend to Obama - a perfect storm for a story.

But the issue is that this would be highly unlikely to happen to a white person in the same class. I'm sure it has happened before to a white person before, but how do you not at least run the guy's ID to match it to his address?

Here's the police report: Link

He was charged with disorderly conduct but who wouldn't act like an ******* if that happened to them? It is fair to say they acted 'stupidly.'

What the point of the initial post though?

I am sorry; I am not meaning to be rude, but your spelling and grammar is awful. I can barely read and comprehend what you are saying to reply.

Feel free to show me a spelling error since spellcheck never found one and then explain to me the grammar errors, please.

Originally posted by chithappens
Feel free to show me a spelling error since spellcheck never found one and then explain to me the grammar errors, please.

So many, I simply do not have time. You have a shit spellchecker Chit.

Sigh, I hope people just ignore this guy from now on. Go eat a cookie guy.

Originally posted by chithappens
Sigh, I hope people just ignore this guy from now on. Go eat a cookie guy.

Calm down Chit. It is not a personal attack. Your grammar is poor, I highlighted this, nothing else is intended.

After reading the report, I personally think the guy was stupid for acting so aggressively. All of this could've been solved in 2 minutes by showing his ID. Hell, I've had cops knock on my door late at night just because they saw someone entering my place (me), and I'm white.

But what did he do that was worthy of being arrested?

Originally posted by chithappens
Feel free to show me a spelling error since spellcheck never found one and then explain to me the grammar errors, please.



One too many before's.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But what did he do that was worthy of being arrested?

He wouldn't present his information, which would've proven that he lived there? The cops were responding to a 911 call from one of the guy's neighbors, saying that there was a possible break-in. The cops were just doing their job, and considering the fact that they were investigating a possible break-in, it was stupid for the professor to respond with so much hostility, especially in a situation such as this. Again, he could've resolved the whole situation by presenting ID or something, and instead he blew up.

I'm surprised he didn't pull the race card on his neighbor who made the 911 call.

Either way, it would appear the isse has been Resolved

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Either way, it would appear the isse has been Resolved

Not really as Obama has pinned his colors to his sleeve.

Originally posted by jaden101
One too many before's.

Didn't ask you to but yeah ...



Originally posted by AngryManatee
He wouldn't present his information, which would've proven that he lived there? The cops were responding to a 911 call from one of the guy's neighbors, saying that there was a possible break-in. The cops were just doing their job, and considering the fact that they were investigating a possible break-in, it was stupid for the professor to respond with so much hostility, especially in a situation such as this. Again, he could've resolved the whole situation by presenting ID or something, and instead he blew up.

I'm surprised he didn't pull the race card on his neighbor who made the 911 call.

Ok, he blows up but once they cuff him and check for ID (as they should check him for weapons and the such after cuffing him), it should be done there.

It is police procedure to search the house in case anyone is being held hostage, and to make sure the person to whom the house belongs has not been put in further jeopardy.

Regardless of what one thinks about the whole thing - BOTH of them overreacted. It is simple that you don't mouth off to a policeman - not in America, not in Britain not anywhere else.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It is police procedure to search the house in case anyone is being held hostage, and to make sure the person to whom the house belongs has not been put in further jeopardy.

Regardless of what one thinks about the whole thing - BOTH of them overreacted. It is simple that you don't mouth off to a policeman - not in America, not in Britain not anywhere else.

Yeah, I can agree there but I think anyone would overreact in that situation.

What we don't know is if the police found out if was his house and still took him to jail, or looked into it afterward.

Originally posted by chithappens
The guys was arrested inside his own house when there is plenty of proof he actually lives there which reminds me:

Chappelle years ago

In a suburban neighborhood it happens to a well known Harvard scholar who is a friend to Obama - a perfect storm for a story.

But the issue is that this would be highly unlikely to happen to a white person in the same class. I'm sure it has happened before to a white person before, but how do you not at least run the guy's ID to match it to his address?

Here's the police report: Link

He was charged with disorderly conduct but who wouldn't act like an ******* if that happened to them? It is fair to say they acted 'stupidly.'

What the point of the initial post though?


This I agree with.


Something set Gates off.


Dave Chappelle said it best when he said that the ****** put his pictures of his family up all over the walls already. That was perfect.

Obama didn't label anyone a racist. That's just a stupid thing to say. He said the police acted stupidly in arresting someone after he had provided proof that he lived in the house. That is all he said, and he's right.

There is no law that states you have to be nice to police officers. And in Mass. there is specific criteria that must be met before you can arrest someone for disorderly conduct, and from what I've heard the professor did not meet said criteria. So yes, it was a stupid thing to do. Probably the cops wanting to 'teach the guy a lesson' or something, but of course that's not their job. They should have simply walked away after the guy showed them his ID, regardless of his shitty attitude.

Of course it's never actually smart to pop an attitude with a cop, however that doesn't excuse a cop abusing his power.

Originally posted by BackFire
Obama didn't label anyone a racist. That's just a stupid thing to say. He said the police acted stupidly in arresting someone after he had provided proof that he lived in the house. That is all he said, and he's right.

This is what I thought, and I agree.

Originally posted by BackFire
Obama didn't label anyone a racist. That's just a stupid thing to say. He said the police acted stupidly in arresting someone after he had provided proof that he lived in the house. That is all he said, and he's right.

There is no law that states you have to be nice to police officers. And in Mass. there is specific criteria that must be met before you can arrest someone for disorderly conduct, and from what I've heard the professor did not meet said criteria. So yes, it was a stupid thing to do. Probably the cops wanting to 'teach the guy a lesson' or something, but of course that's not their job. They should have simply walked away after the guy showed them his ID, regardless of his shitty attitude.

Of course it's never actually smart to pop an attitude with a cop, however that doesn't excuse a cop abusing his power.

Well put

Originally posted by dadudemon
This I agree with.


Something set Gates off.


Dave Chappelle said it best when he said that the ****** put his pictures of his family up all over the walls already. That was perfect.

I honestly expected that video to get way more reaction. I guess you are the first to look @ it

Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32092715/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/?GT1=43001

I don't know, I wouldn't be surprised though.

The guy has been sitting down and listening to someone like Reverand Wright preach for years..of course some of his racism might have rubbed off.

Originally posted by KidRock
The guy has been sitting down and listening to someone like Reverand Wright preach for years..of course some of his racism might have rubbed off.

Just out of curiosity, how many full sermons or interviews of Reverend Wright have you seen?

Originally posted by chithappens
Well put



I honestly expected that video to get way more reaction. I guess you are the first to look @ it

I love Dave Chappelle for all of his absurd naughtiness.

Obama did show bias. I don't think its racial, but a friend bias. Gates is friend of Obama, hence his remarks should have been diplomatic, and neutral - instead they were not.

I would come in defence to my friend ASAP, but he is a president of United States and he should have been more careful in the way he expressed himself.

He apologized, so one should give him credit for that.

Originally posted by BackFire
Obama didn't label anyone a racist. That's just a stupid thing to say. He said the police acted stupidly in arresting someone after he had provided proof that he lived in the house. That is all he said, and he's right.

There is no law that states you have to be nice to police officers. And in Mass. there is specific criteria that must be met before you can arrest someone for disorderly conduct, and from what I've heard the professor did not meet said criteria. So yes, it was a stupid thing to do. Probably the cops wanting to 'teach the guy a lesson' or something, but of course that's not their job. They should have simply walked away after the guy showed them his ID, regardless of his shitty attitude.

Of course it's never actually smart to pop an attitude with a cop, however that doesn't excuse a cop abusing his power. if you watch the video he accused the officer of racism for arresting a black guy in the whitehouse. obama is one of those that thinks anything that happens to a black person is racist.

He said no such thing. Provide proof of your claim.

Originally posted by BackFire
He said no such thing. Provide proof of your claim. ok i clicked the link they must have taken the video off of him accusing the officer or racism. il find it somwhere else on the net

Originally posted by jaden101
One too many before's. One too many apostrophes


On topic though the whole thing seems out of hand really, of course there was some racism involved and the police can't really claim that it doesn't target minorities at times, but whether it had to blow out of proportion like that, and especially whether Obama needed to comment at all, I don't think so.

Originally posted by Bardock42
One too many apostrophes


On topic though the whole thing seems out of hand really, of course there was some racism involved and the police can't really claim that it doesn't target minorities at times, but whether it had to blow out of proportion like that, and especially whether Obama needed to comment at all, I don't think so.

Since he was a friend of Obama's and it was a big deal, by the media, and it occurred somewhat hear DC, Obama was almost obliged to comment.

How silly and stupid of me to think this whole business of racial discrimination in America would be finally put to rest. Once a black President was sworn into office..

Chimp cartoons, Wise Latina, Harvard Professors, Ambulance driver arrested....oh shit..whatever happen to the "change"? I want my money back.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Since he was a friend of Obama's and it was a big deal, by the media, and it occurred somewhat hear DC, Obama was almost obliged to comment.

Do you mean near?

And I don't consider DC near Boston, personally...though perhaps that's cause it is about one German away from each other.

The only thing you said which may give a reason for him to comment is that it was a friend of his, but even then, I don't consider it the duty of the president to comment on single instances of arrests.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Do you mean near?

And I don't consider DC near Boston, personally...though perhaps that's cause it is about one German away from each other.



Yup. Regional news, brotha.


Things that happen in Kansas, are heard about here on OKC news...if they are significant. I would assume that people in DC would have heard about it on their local news. Case in point, how did Obama know about it? Did his friend call his blackberry? If not...Obama got it from the news.

Something like this would be all over the North Eastern part of the United States.


Hell, I hear about news from colleges who are in the Big Twelve, simply because NCAA Football is so big in Oklahoma.



Originally posted by Bardock42
The only thing you said which may give a reason for him to comment is that it was a friend of his, but even then, I don't consider it the duty of the president to comment on single instances of arrests.


When the arrest touches on something that was a big deal for ages, then the president should make a comment on it, especially if the president wants to use his position of power and influence as a way to make the point known.

I do agree that it wasn't the most tactful or really smartest thing for the president to comment on. But be fair, he was asked about it.

Originally posted by BackFire
I do agree that it wasn't the most tactful or really smartest thing for the president to comment on. But be fair, he was asked about it. Yeah, I wasn't so much blaming Obama, more that it is not really a question I think he should be asked. But you are right, since he was asked he had to say something Could have been handled more tactfully though, or perhaps with a charming no comment.

Originally posted by Bardock42
it is about one German away from each other.



that should be a standard unit, distance in germans

So, considering how endemic some racial issues are in America, and how little they are addressed, wouldn't it be a good thing for Obama to worry about race more than other presidents?

Originally posted by inimalist
So, considering how endemic some racial issues are in America, and how little they are addressed, wouldn't it be a good thing for Obama to worry about race more than other presidents?

In this case "worry about race" means "socialism" because they think he's biased against white people.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In this case "worry about race" means "socialism" because they think he's biased against white people. thats exactly why they took off the net 1st thing the video of him accusing the officer of racism.

Originally posted by chomperx9
thats exactly why they took off the net 1st thing the video of him accusing the officer of racism.

"they"

lol. Trust me, there is more demand to see a video like that than to take one off. Obama doesn't control Youtube.

Originally posted by inimalist
"they"

lol. Trust me, there is more demand to see a video like that than to take one off. Obama doesn't control Youtube. i agree there has to be a site somewhere that still has it.

Originally posted by chomperx9
i agree there has to be a site somewhere that still has it.

I disagree, however, I doubt very much that he accused a specific officer of racism in this incident. I'll eat my hat if you find it thought, so hey, that should be motivation.

Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32092715/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/?GT1=43001

When he said the officer acted "stupidly" he just had a "black man moment". In that split-second he was a black man from the South Side of Chicago, not the President of the United States. And since Obama went to Harvard, that's another camaraderie he has with Prof. Gates.

The police Sergeant said that he made rude comments about his mother, and the image of a middle-aged Harvard professor cracking yo' momma jokes is funny as hell.

Originally posted by Breast Feeder
Does Obama have an anti-white bias? He seems to like labelling people racist.

Not in the way that more than half of all white u.s. presidents that ever were, past and present, have had an anti-black bias, if that's what you mean.

I mean, some u.s. presidents owned hundreds of black slaves, right? And you can't get more anti-race than that. And they've not only labeled but blatantly used and said the "N" or some racial slur word in lit and in speech in front of other blacks and other colleagues and in general public audiences. Press conferences, probably.

We obviously know it's not as open (racism) as it was in the past, but it was or use to be normal to be this way for a white u.s. president and white people in general, It was acceptable. The point is, is that Blacks have gone through it for centuries, and are still going through it, here in the u.s. till this day. So i think you'll be ok, if you think this one president, who'll just only be at his post for 6 years tops, makes you feel that he "may" have an anti-white bias.

Not trying to sound racist here, just want you to look on the flip side of the coin, as well..

Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Well not for this at least.

Originally posted by Robtard
Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

Because no black man has ever died of natural causes, all of them from the beginning of history have been killed by "the Man".

That or because he's black and as a result is liable to give up on the presidency thing because it's a white man's job and thus too hard for him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure if the "yeah, but, they did it first" is a viable excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

Why would Obama only do 1.5 terms at the most?

You've miscomprehended.

that wasn't my point, and even if it was, i'd never consider it an excuse, especially for the leader of a country.

I was merely addressing the posters' assumption, or worry, about a u.s. president "possibly" being racist cause of how the poster "felt". And all i'm saying, in regards to him, (the poster) that he (the poster) will be ok because Blacks have survived worse than that and at an astronomically higher price for a very, very long time.

Just trying to calm his fears, is all. I mean Obama should be anti-any race politically cause it's unconstitutional and just cause it's immoral,as well but (the poster)'ll survive. I mean, no one race is superior than the other right? And if there was a superior race, don't you think this would be a cake wake if the more inferior race has gone through, and came out of, it?

And ok, how ever long Obama has left in the White House, just years, he won't be there for the next 3-4 centuries.

Fair enough. Even Ali got hit.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That or because he's black and as a result is liable to give up on the presidency thing because it's a white man's job and thus too hard for him.

Ah. The old "jokes you secretly mean" move.

I've been the target of those, lol.

I dunno, as of late i've noticed when people do that, like try to pass of something racial, or deep seeded, as a joke, so as to not come off as racist, is starting to become funny to me now. Like lol funny.

Then there's one of hundreds of escape clauses used if accused, and sometimes while even trying to make you out to be the dolt. Escape clauses like "i'm just kiddin', man", "just jokin' dude", or "have a sense of humor, pal"

just sayin the sh*t's funny.

Or racial jokes are just some of the funniest jokes, as fact.

I don't have a problem with Jews, my best friend is a Jew. Yet I find this joke to be funny and it has nothing to do with being anti-Jew.

Q: How do you know when you're in a Jewish home?

A:There's a fork in the sugar bowl.

gates would not have gotten arrested if he were to do what he was told. gates asked the officer why am i being asked to step out is it because im black ? man please the same rules and law goes to everyone. i dont know why they have to take everything towards race.

all he had to do is just step outside as asked so the officers can investigate the break in. they were not accusing gates of the break in or nothing they just need folks to leave so they can find evidence and clues and stuff.

but he wanted to keep arguing with the officer. well its gates that acted STUPIDLY

Yes, they were accusing him of breaking in. The cop also had no legal standing to arrest him considering he didn't break the law at all.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes, they were accusing him of breaking in. The cop also had no legal standing to arrest him considering he didn't break the law at all. still if you didnt do anything wrong then you shoudlnt have anything to worry about if an officer asks you nicely to step outside. he wasnt gonna arrest him or nothing at 1st he was probably just going to ask some questions. if a black officer came in my place asking me step out im gonna listen if i know i didnt do anything that i got nothin to worry about. and im not gonna accuse of him of race or nothing.

Originally posted by chomperx9
still if you didnt do anything wrong then you shoudlnt have anything to worry about if an officer asks you nicely to step outside. he wasnt gonna arrest him or nothing at 1st he was probably just going to ask some questions. if a black officer came in my place asking me step out im gonna listen if i know i didnt do anything that i got nothin to worry about. and im not gonna accuse of him of race or nothing.

You're missing the point.

When Gates was arrested he had not broken the law. The cop was completely out of line. If Gates had shot at him, sure, but yelling at a cop is not illegal.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're missing the point.

When Gates was arrested he had not broken the law. The cop was completely out of line. If Gates had shot at him, sure, but yelling at a cop is not illegal. refusing to obey an order from an officer can lead towards arrest.

last year i got pulled over for speeding. officer thought i was some punk with drugs or something cause i look like a young adult. he asked me to step out of the car and had to face flat against my car and he searched me and my car. he let me go. i had no clue why i was searched but i had nothing to do worry cause i know i didnt have anything on me. and if i didnt step out of the vehicle as told he could have taken me in.

Originally posted by chomperx9
still if you didnt do anything wrong then you shoudlnt have anything to worry about if an officer asks you nicely to step outside.

The constitution of your country is supposed to protect you from exactly what you are saying.

Your founding fathers would be appalled by that statement.

Originally posted by chomperx9
refusing to obey an order from an officer can lead towards arrest.

last year i got pulled over for speeding. officer thought i was some punk with drugs or something cause i look like a young adult. he asked me to step out of the car and had to face flat against my car and he searched me and my car. he let me go. i had no clue why i was searched but i had nothing to do worry cause i know i didnt have anything on me. and if i didnt step out of the vehicle as told he could have taken me in.


You did not have to consent to a search, dude.

You could have said, "I don't have anything I shouldn't. I do not consent to a search."

Yes, you can say that.





In Gates' case, he could have said, "look at my family pictures all over the house. Then GTFO out of my house." If I were in a pissy mood, I might say something like that to a police officer who was being stubborn or idiotic.




However, Gates should have never let the officer in. That was his right. Or maybe the officer kind of manipulated his way in, as they try to do from time to time. "Well, if you have nothing to hide, then there's no harm in my coming in." Or, "no harm in me searching your vehicle."










Here's a super shitty story for you:



My coworker, the same one who couldn't get into Julliard, despite being the better candidate, because he wasn't black, had a search encounter that was shitty to no end.


He was traveling across a few states, coming back home from visiting his parents.


He was pulled over. A routine stop that bored cops do or are required to do every now and then.


My coworker, knowing he didn't do anything wrong, was a tiny bit irritated, but was polite. When the officer approached his window, he asked for license and registration, immediately. My coworker complied. After furnishing the requested, as the officer looked at it by his window, he asked why he was pulled over.



This is when things got shitty.

The cop didn't like this or something and he started being a jerk.


After he couldn't find anything wrong with the insurance or registration, he told my coworker that he was going to search the vehicle for drugs. My coworker, being a smart educated libertarian leaning person, said that he does not consent to a search and seizure because he has nothing. The officer said that if he didn't have anything to hide, then there's nothing to worry about. He then told him to get out of the vehicle and stand by his squad car.


My coworker told him that he will not exit the vehicle and that he has no reason to hold him further. He reiterated that he did consent to a search.

The cop said, "oh, we'll see about that. I'm going to get the dogs up here after you. What do you think about that smartass?"


My coworker said it would be a waste of time. (He's a Mormon. )


It took an hour for the dog unit to get there. The dogs, tore of his upholstery, biting and sniffing his car up. (A brand spanking new Suburu Forrester.) When the obviously couldn't find drugs, the drug dog cops packed back up and left.


During this time, my coworker was demanding that officers name and badge number that violated him, both their times, and his vehicle. He refused, at first, until my coworker threatened to call the local station and give them the squad car number. The cop gave up his information.








My coworker sued that local police department (rather, the city, I presume) for all damages to his vehicle.


It took almost a year. But he got all his money in damages plus a little bit extra.

Originally posted by dadudemon
However, Gates should have never let the officer in. That was his right. Or maybe the officer kind of manipulated his way in, as they try to do from time to time. "Well, if you have nothing to hide, then there's no harm in my coming in." Or, "no harm in me searching your vehicle."

afaik, responding to a 911 call (which is what happened here, right?) gives the officer probable cause to enter the home.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It took an hour for the dog unit to get there. The dogs, tore of his upholstery, biting and sniffing his car up. (A brand spanking new Suburu Forrester.) When the obviously couldn't find drugs, the drug dog cops packed back up and left.

Damn, up here if dogs find anything before probable cause, it is an illegal search.

Can cops down there really just arbitrarily subject people to drug-dog searches? or would anything they found have to be thrown out in court?

Originally posted by inimalist
afaik, responding to a 911 call (which is what happened here, right?) gives the officer probable cause to enter the home.


Damn it.


You're right.



But could they have entered if he furnished, immediately, his driver's license through the door?



Originally posted by inimalist
Damn, up here if dogs find anything before probable cause, it is an illegal search.

Can cops down there really just arbitrarily subject people to drug-dog searches? or would anything they found have to be thrown out in court?

I don't know how that works.


If the dogs find something...then they are charged, I'd assume.


If they smell something, then that gives them probable cause, I guess.

The term doesn't even exist.

Genetically speaking of course.

Your are more likely related to someone outside your "race" than you are inside your "race".

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Your are more likely related to someone outside your "race" than you are inside your "race".

Excluding, people like parents I assume.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Excluding, people like parents I assume.

lol, I think the actual fact is that there is more genetic variation within racial groups than between, meaning you are likely more genetically similar to some people of other races than you are to some people of your own.

However, the continuing research into the human genome has revealed that there is far more variation than we suspected before, and I remember a credible scientist saying that it did call the "more within than between" theory into question, even if only for the reason that we might not have a good guess at those variabilities anymore.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Damn it.

You're right.

But could they have entered if he furnished, immediately, his driver's license through the door?

I'd assume. The issue would be what rights of search the police would have. They wouldn't, obviously, be allowed to tear up his things or go through his cupboards, and there might be some issues if they tried to bust him for a bong they found during the search, (I know Canadian search & seizure laws better than America, go figure, so I don't know how this applies) or something like that, but afaik they would be allowed to give the place the once over.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't know how that works.

If the dogs find something...then they are charged, I'd assume.

If they smell something, then that gives them probable cause, I guess.

A recent case before our Supreme Court found that the use of a drug sniffing dog on a suspect who was not breaking the law and the police had no probable cause to search violated that individuals privacy rights.

Up here, we can't have dogs used unless we have already been busted.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Excluding, people like parents I assume. Yes, excluding those that are in your pedigree.

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
Yes, excluding those that are in your pedigree.

would you mind expanding on this?

Hoped for mor mayhem... How vanilla this place has become.

Originally posted by The--Libertine
Hoped for mor mayhem... How vanilla this place has become.

Sock?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Sock?

Suspenders?

Originally posted by Ghost poster
Suspenders?

Jockstrap!

you know whats funny about race? if you were half a decent human being, you wudnt care even if one was inferior to yours.........

I don't find "race" funny. Now, racial jokes, those are the shit.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
you know whats funny about race? if you were half a decent human being, you wudnt care even if one was inferior to yours.........

Yes I would. A decent person would want to help those inferior people by raping them so their children might have better genes.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yes I would. A decent person would want to help those inferior people by raping them so their children might have better genes.

Why droit de seigneur was a good thing, least the rabble keep passing inferiority among themselves.