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setting 2nd boss fight super 64 lava stage

1. Magmar
2. Izzy and Bowser Jr
3. Armored Goron (Twilight Princess)
4. Blaziken
5. Charizard
6. Bowser

mario has his smash bros skill set

Capes and air camps.
Capes and camps fireballs/FluDD
Cape glide into Uair gimp.
Capes, and comboes, gimps with FluDD
Is actually in Brawl
Is actually in Brawl.

the hell

Oh come on, Scream. For all you know, Magmar could be more broken than MK.

Considering Zard > Magmar, and Zard < Mario, I think it's safe to say, Mario > Magmar.

You don't know that for sure! The tire list only specifies trainer as a whole.

I think Mario's got a 60:40 on Zard, but I haven't checked recently...

I've lost all track matchups, so I'm not much better.

Magmar may be able to take out Mario.

Magmar can hide in the lava and use it for healing. Also to mention, his body is near 2,200 degrees F.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Considering Zard > Magmar, and Zard < Mario, I think it's safe to say, Mario > Magmar.
lol ABC logic.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Magmar may be able to take out Mario.

Magmar can hide in the lava and use it for healing. Also to mention, his body is near 2,200 degrees F.
Indeed. Was going to point that out, but looks like someone else has done their homework too.

We're using Smash Mario for this?

Compared to Zard's fire, 2200 farenheit is nothing.. o_O In this case, ABC logic is acceptable because Magmar's inferior to Zard in every stat. He has nothing to make him different from Zard.

Magmar=warm Zard that can't fly.

Edit: One thing he has on Zard is 11 points in the physical attack stat. Nothin' else.

Edit: This is totally nullified though, because Charizard gets all the same physical attacks, plus bellydrum, and Blaze.

I didn't know Charizard could use lava for healing too.

Okay, Magmar has one ability which allows him to heal.

He still has little on Mario offensively.

mario has the FLUDD pack for super effectiveness

the real question is can mario throw the goron

The real answer is yes, he can, with ease.

ease? please

What kind of difficulty do you think Mario would have against the Goron?

same as with king bombomb or wat ever

Mario lifts castles, Gorons = nothing

recent mario isnt that strong

"Recent" Mario? Since when has there been a time limit on feats?
Please sir, GTFO with that.

since i said smash bros mario.

Smash bros Mario dodges lasers.

what does that have to do with lift an armored goron?

Nothing in this thread will land a hit on Mario.

those lasers were slow and mario doesnt have that much space to work with.

Lasers =/= slow.

those were

Nope.

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Mario lifts castles, Gorons = nothing

Mario gets killed by turtles and bullets that move slower than a car.

If Mario is so strong, why did he need to use a hammer, tnt, and some windshield wiper on other castles?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Mario gets killed by turtles and bullets that move slower than a car.

If Mario is so strong, why did he need to use a hammer, tnt, and some windshield wiper on other castles?

I'll spell it for you, since I'm pretty sure that this is the second time you've said that.

G A M E P L A Y M E C H A N I C

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
I'll spell it for you, since I'm pretty sure that this is the second time you've said that.

G A M E P L A Y M E C H A N I C

If the castle "feat" is canon:

1. The hills automatically get bandages when hit.
2. Yoshi eggs can walk by themselves and say "Thank You"
3. Mario is bigger than a castle's front door.
4. Mario can erase anything with his window wiper (my gosh, why didn't he use that on Bowser?)

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If the castle "feat" is canon:

1. The hills automatically get bandages when hit.
2. Yoshi eggs can walk by themselves and say "Thank You"
3. Mario is bigger than a castle's front door.
4. Mario can erase anything with his window wiper (my gosh, why didn't he use that on Bowser?)

1. Duh.
2. They could just do all that because of whatever is inside them.
3. The Castle was shrunk to fit it on the screen. It's normally the size of a real castle as it contains an entire level.
4. Probably. Mario is pretty uber too.

All that could be canon, but Mario being killed by goombas and koopa troopas isn't, because they are gameplay.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
1. Duh.
2. They could just do all that because of whatever is inside them.
3. The Castle was shrunk to fit it on the screen. It's normally the size of a real castle as it contains an entire level.
4. Probably. Mario is pretty uber too.

All that could be canon, but Mario being killed by goombas and koopa troopas isn't, because they are gameplay.

Mario was nothing uber in Mario 64 or Sunshine. Whatever happened to his magic window wiper or his castle-lifting strength? It's obvious that those castle demolitions weren't anything serious.

In Mario 64 he kicked over giant bricks, tossed Bowser hundreds of feet, and smashed bricks with punches.

I never played Sunshine, sadly.

In Galaxy he sounds Bowser reeling across a small planet with a spin. o_O

Also, it's a canon cutscene directly from SMW we're discussing... Your entire argument is that it 'wasn't serious'? o_O

Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nope.

by cinematics & gameplay on those lasers... I could dodge those with ease

Those lasers are no where in gameplay, and the only cutscene shows them as moving very fast, and being rapid fired. Mario and Link skate past them as though they're not even there.

they're still not that fast, if anything it looked like R.O.B. laser fire and it was badly aimed.

they lasers were moving slow enough for them to notice its direction the way you're making it sound link & mario run like sonic.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the gauntlet can hit him if yoshi & pit can hit either one of them & I don't remember those two dodging badly aimed semi-slow lasers.

Watch the cutscene again, they pretty much do run liek Sonic in a lot of the cutscenes. The laser fire was rapid, and well aimed, the reason it missed was because Mario and Link kept moving out of the way.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
they're still not that fast, if anything it looked like R.O.B. laser fire and it was badly aimed.

they lasers were moving slow enough for them to notice its direction the way you're making it sound link & mario run like sonic.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the gauntlet can hit him if yoshi & pit can hit either one of them & I don't remember those two dodging badly aimed semi-slow lasers.

They were not slow. And they were not badly aimed. Simply looking at the video shows accuracy and incredibly fast reaction time.

Running like Sonic, no. They just dodged really well.

I don't think Yoshi and Pit ever hit them in a cutscene. But Yoshi and Pit move pretty fast too.

well if one of those two have to lose to a group of either one of those guys, then apparently they can be hit.

I wouldn't say accurate atleast 50% of the shots went right inbetween those two

Originally posted by SpadeKing
well if one of those two have to lose to a group of either one of those guys, then apparently they can be hit.

What?

I win?

No, I don't understand. Who lost to who in a large group of what and when?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
If the castle "feat" is canon:

1. The hills automatically get bandages when hit.
2. Yoshi eggs can walk by themselves and say "Thank You"
3. Mario is bigger than a castle's front door.
4. Mario can erase anything with his window wiper (my gosh, why didn't he use that on Bowser?)

he picked it up and punted it