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Sort them from strongest to weakest...

Superman
Supergirl
Power Girl
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Aquaman (Under water)
Orion
Darkseid
Mongul
Doomsday
Hades
Etrigan
Bizarro
Grundy
Lobo
General Zod
Ultraman
Superboy (Conner)
Superboy Prime
Kalibak
Black Adam

Originally posted by darkfan76
Sort them from strongest to weakest...

Superman
Supergirl
Power Girl
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Aquaman (Under water)
Orion
Darkseid
Mongul
Doomsday
Hades
Etrigan
Bizarro
Grundy
Lobo
General Zod
Ultraman
Superboy (Conner)
Superboy Prime
Kalibak
Black Adam

Wow so many. Ima try but I ain't good with these. I dont' know about some current characters. Also, some of them are too close(most actually) to even tell. MM is just as strong as Superman. Orion stalemated Superman. CM and Superman are usually even..etc. I put Superman infront because of his feats.
Prime
Doomsday current
Superman
Orion
Ultraman
MM
Black Adam
Captain Marvel
Bizarro
Grundy
Mongul
Wonder Woman
Superboy
Powergirl
Supergirl
Kalibak
Aquaman



I don't know where to put
Hades
Etrigan
Hades
Etrigan
DS
Lobo

I'd say Superman is as strong if not stronger than DD. As far as Prime goes, i dunno.

1)SB Prime
2)Doomsday Current
3)DS =Despero=Superman = Ultraman = Bizarro
4)Black Adam= Captain Marvel =Wonder Woman= Orion
5)Supergirl
6)Mongul classic = MM = Lobo = Grundy= Kalibak
7)Etrigan
8)Powergirl
9)Superboy
10)Aquaman


I don't know where to put

Hades

Originally posted by -Pr-
I'd say Superman is as strong if not stronger than DD. As far as Prime goes, i dunno.

I'm of opinion that if Superman goes in the state of mind he did when he confronted the Imperiex Probes alongside Doomsday, he could match Superboy Prime, given the increase in power he received during that state and how he has performed against Superboy Prime up until now (Prime was most definitley superior, but I don't think it's something Superman couldn't cover when going all-out).

But maybe that's just me. ermm

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm of opinion that if Superman goes in the state of mind he did when he confronted the Imperiex Probes alongside Doomsday, he could match Superboy Prime, given the increase in power he received during that state and how he has performed against Superboy Prime up until now (Prime was most definitley superior, but I don't think it's something Superman couldn't cover when going all-out).

But maybe that's just me. ermm

nah, i actually agree, i just don't like to sound like a nut...

i know batdude thinks the same (pissed off superman = prime)

Yeah, you and Batdude just sit back and let me sound like the fanboy. uhuh

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yeah, you and Batdude just sit back and let me sound like the fanboy. uhuh

Why is that Supergirl and Power Girl are not considered as equals?

On the hand, I agree that SBP is what we would see if Supes cut loose.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Why is that Supergirl and Power Girl are not considered as equals?

On the hand, I agree that SBP is what we would see if Supes cut loose.

feats, mostly.

Assuming we're talking about purely physical strength:

Superboy Prime
Darkseid
Orion
Doomsday
Superman
Black Adam
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Mongul (assuming this is the current Mongul in GLC)
Ultraman
Bizarro
Lobo
Etrigan
Wonder Woman
Supergirl
General Zod
Grundy
Kalibak
Power Girl
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

Don't know enough about Hades to say

I disagree with so many of these lists, I don't even know where to start.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Assuming we're talking about purely physical strength:

Superboy Prime
Darkseid
Orion
Doomsday
Superman
Black Adam
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Mongul (assuming this is the current Mongul in GLC)
Ultraman
Bizarro
Lobo
Etrigan
Wonder Woman
Supergirl
General Zod
Grundy
Kalibak
Power Girl
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

Don't know enough about Hades to say

CM is as strong as BA , thier lifting baility shoudl be the same ignoring how hard they hit

Bizarro & UM are equal toSM as they are his exact copy (or a verison of him) , also isn't bizzaro ought to be slightly stronger


DD is stronger than Darkseid

there is more that i'm skeptical about

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Assuming we're talking about purely physical strength:

Superboy Prime
Darkseid
Orion
Doomsday
Superman
Black Adam
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Mongul (assuming this is the current Mongul in GLC)
Ultraman
Bizarro
Lobo
Etrigan
Wonder Woman
Supergirl
General Zod
Grundy
Kalibak
Power Girl
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

Don't know enough about Hades to say
Orion is stronger then Superman? CM and BA are pretty equal. MM and Superman are almost equal. Others are wrong too.

My list:

Superboy Prime
Doomsday
Darkseid
Superman = Ultraman = Bizarro
Martian Manhunter= Orion= Black Adam = Captain Marvel= Mongul
Lobo = Wonder Woman
Power Girl = Supergirl= General Zod
Etrigan = Grundy 0 Kalibakalibak
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

It is really hard to tell, especially regarding Supes, he seems to have unlimited potential but seems to hold back all the time. One day he seems to be unable to harm Darkseid, the other they are equal or Supes slighty superior, same with Doomsday. There is not consistency, all depends on the writer.

Among kriptonians, I´d say they are pretty even, but I'm just guessing that Supes is stronger because he´s been more time under a yellow sun than the others, being superboy prime the exception. Supes has the potential but not has not shown any feats similar to those of SBP which seems to be esentiatilly a Pre-Crisis Superman.

Originally posted by darkfan76
My list:

Superboy Prime
Doomsday
Darkseid
Superman = Ultraman = Bizarro
Martian Manhunter= Orion= Black Adam = Captain Marvel= Mongul
Lobo = Wonder Woman
Power Girl = Supergirl= General Zod
Etrigan = Grundy 0 Kalibakalibak
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

It is really hard to tell, especially regarding Supes, he seems to have unlimited potential but seems to hold back all the time. One day he seems to be unable to harm Darkseid, the other they are equal or Supes slighty superior, same with Doomsday. There is not consistency, all depends on the writer.

Among kriptonians, I´d say they are pretty even, but I'm just guessing that Supes is stronger because he´s been more time under a yellow sun than the others, being superboy prime the exception. Supes has the potential but not has not shown any feats similar to those of SBP which seems to be esentiatilly a Pre-Crisis Superman.

Kara's been uder the yellow sun longest i think, and she's stronger than PG

WW is stronger than lobo

MM is close to BA,CM but slightly less

my revsied version

Superboy Prime
Doomsday
Darkseid = Despero
Superman = Ultraman = Bizarro
Wonder Woman= Orion= Black Adam = Captain Marvel
Martian Manhunter
Lobo = Mongul
Power Girl = Supergirl= General Zod
Etrigan = Grundy 0 Kalibakalibak
Aquaman (Under water)
Superboy (Conner)

Well I just think Black Adam has better strength feats that I have seen, even though he and CM are technically equal. I was mainly judging it by feats.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Orion is stronger then Superman? CM and BA are pretty equal. MM and Superman are almost equal. Others are wrong too.


MM and supes close to being equal, nah dont agree with that statment.

BA > cap, Ba is a no holds barred captian marvel pissed off.

BA rips the shit outta MM everytime they meet.


MM is more on the level as wonderwoman. In terms of strength ba and cap are equal prolly but hitting power it goes to BA.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Sort them from strongest to weakest...

Superman
Supergirl
Power Girl
Wonder Woman
Martian Manhunter
Captain Marvel
Aquaman (Under water)
Orion
Darkseid
Mongul
Doomsday
Hades
Etrigan
Bizarro
Grundy
Lobo
General Zod
Ultraman
Superboy (Conner)
Superboy Prime
Kalibak
Black Adam

In there most traditional Forms :

Superboy Prime
Hunter Prey Doomsday
Despero
Superman
Black Adam
Captain Marvel
Darksied (A bit Contreversial, but he's never demonstrated strength to suggest he's above Black Adam, Despero or Superman. He goes behind Captain Marvel because I think Marvel and Adam are pretty much even, Don't forget They are powered by seven Gods including a couple of Skyfathers, where as Darksied is generally regarded below the Skyfather level).
Ultraman (Pretty even to Superman however has shown limits; couldn't get past Kyles forcefield, Martian Manhunter fight etc).
Mongul
Orion/Wonder Woman (I really don't know how to seperate these two; they both have so many low and high showings).
Supergirl
General Zod
Bizarro
Martian Manhunter
Grundy
Superboy
Kaliback
Powergirl
Etrigan
Aquaman

No idea where the **** to put Lobo ; his strength can vary between Aquaman to Superman. And Hades is apprently dead; I think a better question is where Ares should be but I couldn't answer that either.

Originally posted by zeel
MM and supes close to being equal, nah dont agree with that statment.

BA > cap, Ba is a no holds barred captian marvel pissed off.

BA rips the shit outta MM everytime they meet.


MM is more on the level as wonderwoman. In terms of strength ba and cap are equal prolly but hitting power it goes to BA.
It's stated that Superman and MM are equal in strength.
BA>CM but they are almost identical.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'm of opinion that if Superman goes in the state of mind he did when he confronted the Imperiex Probes alongside Doomsday, he could match Superboy Prime, given the increase in power he received during that state and how he has performed against Superboy Prime up until now (Prime was most definitley superior, but I don't think it's something Superman couldn't cover when going all-out).

But maybe that's just me. ermm it's not. what you said is 100% truth, imo. the instance with the imperiex probe's is an excellent example.

Originally posted by darkfan76
Why is that Supergirl and Power Girl are not considered as equals? you answered your own question. none

Originally posted by xJLxKing
It's stated that Superman and MM are equal in strength.
BA>CM but they are almost identical.


Yet MM cannot defeat Billy or Ba. In fact ba rips the shit outta him everytime they meet. BTW where is it stated that MM is supermans equal?

Martian Manhunter has beaten Black Adam

Originally posted by zeel
Yet MM cannot defeat Billy or Ba. In fact ba rips the shit outta him everytime they meet. BTW where is it stated that MM is supermans equal?
They stated a few times actually. But not Superman's equal as in powerl only in strength. The most recent one was in blackest night, where MM states, "I am as powerful as Superman...Why does everyone forget that?"

I think MM did beat BA.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
They stated a few times actually. But not Superman's equal as in powerl only in strength. The most recent one was in blackest night, where MM states, "I am as powerful as Superman...Why does everyone forget that?"

I think MM did beat BA.

Powerful and strength are simillar but different concepts.

E.G. charles Xavier is incredibly powerful, but not very strong.


I think Martian Manhunter was referring to his array of abilities considered all together, not his actual strength level.

When it comes to brute force and endurance, no one considred a hero really matches Superman.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
Powerful and strength are simillar but different concepts.

E.G. charles Xavier is incredibly powerful, but not very strong.


I think Martian Manhunter was referring to his array of abilities considered all together, not his actual strength level.

When it comes to brute force and endurance, no one considred a hero really matches Superman.


I can agree with this statement

Where's Mon el?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Where's Mon el?

Floundering in the realms of uncertainty...

Where is the number two ?