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matter/energy manipulation at it's finest.who wins

What good showing does Post-Retcon MM have? (if he even has one)

Hyperstorm wins hes the most powerful mutant to ever live and has unlimited energy(I think) and Post-Retcon MM is only a cosmic cube being..

Originally posted by galactusischere
Hyperstorm wins hes the most powerful mutant to ever live and has unlimited energy(I think) and Post-Retcon MM is only a cosmic cube being.. Most powerful mutant ever?? and he didnt have unlimated energy.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
What good showing does Post-Retcon MM have? (if he even has one)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7901/b3bi8.jpg
http://img117.imageshack.us/i/mmlm0.jpg/

LT calling mm one of the most powerful beings in the omniverse(LT specifically said "All Creation" ... but that's what all creation is)

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8974/b2rn4.jpg
in his battle with post Beyonder,
reality across the realities of all creation was warped.
it states trans-Multiversal which is beyond Multiversal,
and since it also stated "through out creation" it supports the first feat
"from the Quantum to the Trans-Multiversal,
Reality trembles as the forces unleashed,
reverberate through out Creation"

Owen was able to easily rip out the essence of Kosmos,
from an astronomical distance away

effortlessly rip apart/recreate an entire galaxy

he is an unrestricted cosmic cube,which according to mephisto,could be as power as the IG

those are just some feats

That was Classic Molecule Man, though.

What about Post Retcon? What I remember about him is getting locked up in some sort of Alcatraz, and getting killed off by Clyde.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
That was Classic Molecule Man, though.

What about Post Retcon? What I remember about him is getting locked up in some sort of Alcatraz, and getting killed off by Clyde.
actually that is post-retcon mm
and he returned to a life of crime despite being omnipotent.real pis on his part

Oh..my bad then. I don't know much about the Marvel cosmology.

Cool beans, anyways.

Originally posted by gobstakid777
actually that is post-retcon mm
and he returned to a life of crime despite being omnipotent.real pis on his part

lol so Post-Recon MM>LT?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Most powerful mutant ever?? and he didnt have unlimated energy.

Yes, more powerful than Mister M and Franklin Richards plus he had enough energy to sustain Galactus for awhile maybe not limitless but lots lots.

Originally posted by galactusischere
lol so Post-Recon MM>LT?

you know what i mean by omniptoent.complete control over matter and energy

Originally posted by gobstakid777
you know what i mean by omniptoent.complete control over matter and energy

HE WAS omniptoent not anymore.
He is not even as powerful as Celestials nowdays.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yes, more powerful than Mister M and Franklin Richards plus he had enough energy to sustain Galactus for awhile maybe not limitless but lots lots. Jim Jaspers, HOM Wanda, Jamie Braddock are more powerful than Hyperstorm and all he did wa beat the FF and Doom.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Jim Jaspers, HOM Wanda, Jamie Braddock are more powerful than Hyperstorm and all he did wa beat the FF and Doom.

Well yea Scarlet Witch HoM was pretty powerful.

Originally posted by galactusischere
HE WAS omniptoent not anymore.
He is not even as powerful as Celestials nowdays.

we're talking about the most powerful post retcon version of molecule man.and i don't mean omnipotent as in he can beat anybody.he can create,restructure,destory,and manipulate any form of matter as he pleases,generate and manipulate any form of energy,and do wormholes and such.that's basically what i mean by omnipotent.he basically has the powers of cosmic cube.if he wants a mansion.blink.he has a mansion.he can have anything he wants.thats what i mean by omnipotence.he can indulge his every whim.heck if you remember mister m from 198, he had molecule man's same powers and he was able to mind control people as this shows
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2299/xmenthe19813lw1.jpg
like one sight said about him,he's the ultimate in omnipotent wish fulfillment.quoting pre-retcon beyonder,he can have anything he wants,anything at all

comic cubes are suppose to be < celestials right? (kubik says so iirc)

and celestials < Eternity < IG


unless they changed all that

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
comic cubes are suppose to be < celestials right? (kubik says so iirc)

and celestials < Eternity < IG


unless they changed all that

yeah but mephisto has stated that an unrestricted cube,which mm is,can be as powerful as IG so....
or at least this is what i heard.
if i am wrong,please tell me what he really said

Originally posted by SoulDevourer


and celestials < Eternity < IG


Not really.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
comic cubes are suppose to be < celestials right? (kubik says so iirc)

and celestials < Eternity < IG


unless they changed all that

It has been said that Eternity created the Celestial race so it would make sense that Eternity>Celestials.

Originally posted by galactusischere
It has been said that Eternity created the Celestial race so it would make sense that Eternity>Celestials.

can;t argue w/ that logic

Originally posted by galactusischere
it would make sense that Eternity>Celestials.
Originally posted by Mindset
Not really.

Originally posted by gobstakid777
can;t argue w/ that logic
whoops.didn't see that was a >.in that case u can definately argue w/ that logic

Originally posted by gobstakid777
whoops.didn't see that was a >.in that case u can definately argue w/ that logic

So a celestial is more powerful than Eternity?
LOL

Originally posted by Mindset


So a celestial is more powerful than Eternity?
big G ate a celestial and Eternity is more powerful than Galactus.

Originally posted by galactusischere
So a celestial is more powerful than Eternity?
LOL

Originally posted by galactusischere
So a celestial is more powerful than Eternity?
big G ate a celestial and Eternity is more powerful than Galactus. facepalm

Originally posted by Mindset
facepalm

So your sayind a single Celestial is more powerful than Eternity?

Originally posted by galactusischere
So your sayind a single Celestial is more powerful than Eternity?
yea i gave myself a faceplam there.i'm tryin to say eternity is more powerful than a celestial

Scathan
Tiamut

Originally posted by Mindset
Scathan
Tiamut

Scathan was more powerful than LT.. BUT he was only present in another universe so he dosn't count and no the Tiamut is not more powrful than eternity.

bump

Originally posted by galactusischere
Scathan was more powerful than LT.. BUT he was only present in another universe so he dosn't count and no the Tiamut is not more powrful than eternity.

Scathan is a canon Celestial, he counts and Tiamut currently is probably more powerful than Eternity provided the Fulcrum is as powerful as the on panel speechification made it seem.

Owen Reece wins this with absolute ease.