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rate the characters of your choice (as fair as possible) using Marvel power ratings (1-7). you can use this as basis: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Power_Grids or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:B...rs/Scratch_Page

* categories are as follows:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength

* characters can be from any Anime or Manga... i've put this here because i know some ratings would subject for debate/discussion...

I will start off

Vegito

Agility 7
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 7
Intelligence 3
Mental Power 7
Reflexes 7
Speed 7
Speed (Flight) 6
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Naruto

Agility 3
Durability 3
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 1
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 3
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 3 (sage mode 7)

Witchblade (Masane)

Agility 8
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 9
Intelligence 5
Mental Power 0 (doesn't have any mental abilities)
Reflexes 10
Speed 8
Speed (flight) 8
Stamina 9
Strength 8

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Witchblade (Masane)

Agility 8
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 9
Intelligence 5
Mental Power 0 (doesn't have any mental abilities)
Reflexes 10
Speed 8
Speed (flight) 8
Stamina 9
Strength 8

It only goes up to 7 dog

Originally posted by Peterlane
It only goes up to 7 dog

As if you know anime Witchblade better.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
As if you know anime Witchblade better.

I don't think you understood what he meant.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
As if you know anime Witchblade better.

The grid can only go up to 7 it can be an 8 or 15 or 100. The highest is 7

Keroro

Agility: 3
Durability: 3
Energy Projection: 1
Fighting Ability: 3
Intelligence: 4
Mental Power: 2
Reflexes: 3
Speed: 3
Speed (Flight): 1
Stamina: 3
Strength: 3

Z

Agility 3
Durability 6
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 6
Mental Power 6
Reflexes 4
Speed 5
Speed (Flight) 7
Stamina 7
Strength 4

Vegetto is not a 7 in Energy Projection.

By Marvel's definition he would be a 5.

Originally posted by Peterlane
Z

Agility 3
Durability 6
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 6
Mental Power 6
Reflexes 4
Speed 5
Speed (Flight) 7
Stamina 7
Strength 4
LHW should make his durability a 7.

Not really Goku uses solar flare, that is a solar attack, and Super Saiyan enrgy produces Bio electricity, which they control

No all of that is Ki,nothing more.

Originally posted by Alucard25
No all of that is Ki,nothing more.

Well Power Cosmic is 1 form of energy but Surfer is a 7. Ki is pretty much like the PC

No KI is nothing like the Power Cosmic with the Power Cosmic it lets Surfer create and use multiple forms of energy and matter.The Power Cosmic is far far above KI in every single way.

Originally posted by Alucard25
No KI is nothing like the Power Cosmic with the Power Cosmic it lets Surfer create and use multiple forms of energy and matter.The Power Cosmic is far far above KI in every single way.

Just because I said it is like doesn't mean they are on the same level.

Ki can create fire, electricity, light. It can also transmutate and be used for regeneration, it is used for telepathy and telekinesis. It is used for superhuman enhancements. Just like the power cosmic.

In now way am I sayin Ki=Power Cosmic so NF **** don't put this on your stpid quotes thread or w/e

Kenshiro

Agility 7
Durability 6
Energy Projection 2-3
Fighting Ability 7+
Intelligence 3-4
Mental Power 0 (if this is like telepathy or something like that. If it's like will power then it's a 6-7.)
Reflexes 7
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) N/A
Stamina 6-7
Strength 6

This guy is so beastly!

Originally posted by Peterlane
rate the characters of your choice (as fair as possible) using Marvel power ratings (1-7). you can use this as basis: http://marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Power_Grids or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:B...rs/Scratch_Page

* categories are as follows:

Agility
Durability
Energy Projection
Fighting Ability
Intelligence
Mental Power
Reflexes
Speed
Speed (Flight)
Stamina
Strength

* characters can be from any Anime or Manga... i've put this here because i know some ratings would subject for debate/discussion...

I will start off

Vegito

Agility 7
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 7
Intelligence 3
Mental Power 7
Reflexes 7
Speed 7
Speed (Flight) 6
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Naruto

Agility 3
Durability 3
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 1
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 3
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 3 (sage mode 7)

* you stole this idea from me...

* Yusuke:

Agility 5
Durability 5
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 2
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 5
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 4

Pointless thread since anime/manga is so diverse and not as standardized as DC/Marvel, so really this is just a thread for you to wank your favorite characters by giving them high numbers

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Pointless thread since anime/manga is so diverse and not as standardized as DC/Marvel, so really this is just a thread for you to wank your favorite characters by giving them high numbers

So, whats wrong with a little fun?

Oh noez peeplz shud be werking hard and arguing aboout fictional character like its about politics and religion

Originally posted by peejayd
* you stole this idea from me...

* Yusuke:

Agility 5
Durability 5
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 2
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 5
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 4

Not stole....inspired

Dio Brando

Agility 5
Durability 3
Energy Projection 3
Fighting Ability 6
Intelligence 2
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 3
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 5

Originally posted by Peterlane
Just because I said it is like doesn't mean they are on the same level.

Ki can create fire, electricity, light. It can also transmutate and be used for regeneration, it is used for telepathy and telekinesis. It is used for superhuman enhancements. Just like the power cosmic.

In now way am I sayin Ki=Power Cosmic so NF **** don't put this on your stpid quotes thread or w/e

Give me some examples of someone firing blasts of fire in DBZ and not filler either and when has Ki ever created electricity unless you mean the useless crackling that goes around a super saiyan 2 and 3 body that's just there for cool effect once again never used offensively.Regen is not Ki based either it has to do with only certain species being able to do it like Piccolo,Cell and Buu because he is magical.Light attacks like solar flare are just very bright bursts of KI.Also the only beings in DBZ I've ever seen transmute anything are magic beings like Buu and the Kais,never seen anyone like Goku,Vegeta,Piccolo or the other major Ki users ever transmute anything.So going back to what I said people like Vegito and Goku only fire out blasts of Ki which makes them 5.While Ki might have some small similarity with Power Cosmic that's about it.

Originally posted by Alucard25
Give me some examples of someone firing blasts of fire in DBZ and not filler either and when has Ki ever created electricity unless you mean the useless crackling that goes around a super saiyan 2 and 3 body that's just there for cool effect once again never used offensively.Regen is not Ki based either it has to do with only certain species being able to do it like Piccolo,Cell and Buu because he is magical.Light attacks like solar flare are just very bright bursts of KI.Also the only beings in DBZ I've ever seen transmute anything are magic beings like Buu and the Kais,never seen anyone like Goku,Vegeta,Piccolo or the other major Ki users ever transmute anything.So going back to what I said people like Vegito and Goku only fire out blasts of Ki which makes them 5.While Ki might have some small similarity with Power Cosmic that's about it.

Yakon eats light and SS energy is also light energy.

Piccolo's antenna beam is electricity, it also burns like electricity, normal ki attacks dont burn. SS2 and above creats electrical energy. Buu and the Kai's transmutation is not magic it is ki, but if magic is a type of energy I guess ki can do it too.

Explain how Chaotzu, Vegeta, Freeza and general Blue can use telekinesis? he is just a normal human trained in ki arts. Ki can be used for PSYCHIC energy

Piccolo and Mr Popo and the Kai's

Ki is like the Power Cosmic in a sense that it can use different forms of energy so no it would not be a 5.

In no way am I implying Ki = Power Cosmic in power.

Alucard

agility 5
durability 7
energy projection 1 (I'm pretty sure he has some pyrokenisis. probably spelled wrong)
fighting ability 7
intelligence 5
mental power 3 (telepathy with flegdling, some telekinesis, and hypnosis)
reflexes 5
speed 5
speed (flight) 0
stamina 7 (when has anyone ever seen him tire?)
strength 6 (he can rip people apart like wet tissue, but his strength isn't incalculauble)

Goku

Agility 6
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 7
Intelligence 1 (fighting 7)
Mental Power 5
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Flight) 6
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Tenchi

Agility 3
Durability 6
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 4
Intelligence 5
Mental Power 7
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Flight) 7
Stamina 7
Strength 7

Ichigo

Agility 4
Durability 4
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 1
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 4
Speed 4
Speed (Flight) 4
Stamina 4
Strength 5

Pain

Agility 4
Durability 3
Energy Projection 5
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 5
Mental Power 5
Reflexes 4
Speed 4
Speed (Flight) 4
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Originally posted by Peterlane
Not stole....inspired

Dio Brando

Agility 5
Durability 3
Energy Projection 3
Fighting Ability 6
Intelligence 2
Mental Power 1
Reflexes 3
Speed 3
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 6
Strength 5

* wow... thanks!

* L (Death Note):

Agility 3
Durability 2
Energy Projection 0
Fighting Ability 3
Intelligence 6 (deducting ability)
Mental Power 0
Reflexes 3
Speed 2
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 2
Strength 2

Lelouch (Code Geass)

Agility 2
Durability 2
Energy Projection 0
Fighting Ability 2
Intelligence 6 (deducting ability)
Mental Power 5
Reflexes 3
Speed 2
Speed (Flight) 0
Stamina 1
Strength 1

D

Agility 3
Durability 3
Energy Projection 4
Fighting Ability 5
Intelligence 4
Mental Power 3
Reflexes 4
Speed 3
Speed (Gliding/Leaping) 3
Stamina 3
Strength 4

Theres so much DBZ hate on this forum that its ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
Theres so much DBZ hate on this forum that its ridiculous.

Not as worse as other places. -cough- NF -cough-

In those forums they believe the Harry Potter verse can beat the DB verse

Originally posted by carver9
Theres so much DBZ hate on this forum that its ridiculous.

Change hate with wank and you'd be right for once.

Originally posted by Peterlane
Not as worse as other places. -cough- NF -cough-

In those forums they believe the Harry Potter verse can beat the DB verse

Meh I see a few people on there that generally underrate DBZ but there are several retards that wank the hell out of it mainly Raigen and Omega Level before his stupid ass got banned

Originally posted by Alucard25
Meh I see a few people on there that generally underrate DBZ but there are several retards that wank the hell out of it mainly Raigen and Omega Level before his stupid ass got banned

I lurk on those forums sometimes. I would join but alot of them seem like dicks. On NF though alot of people underrate DBZ, they belive people like the Thing would beat Krillin, and Storm would put on a good fight against Goku. The hate is pretty pathetic, you would think that Goku molested them as a child.

The hate is the same here if you ask me. Some people on here cant stand the fact that people even debate for goku. They throw his feats out of the window and discredit everything that is shown.

Goku

Intelligence: 3
Strength: 7
Durability: 7
Stamina: 6
Energy Projection: 7
Reflexes: 7
Flight speed: 5
Combat speed: 7
Fighting ability: 7
Agility: 7

Originally posted by carver9
The hate is the same here if you ask me. Some people on here cant stand the fact that people even debate for goku. They throw his feats out of the window and discredit everything that is shown.

Goku

Intelligence: 3
Strength: 7
Durability: 7
Stamina: 6
Energy Projection: 7
Reflexes: 7
Flight speed: 5
Combat speed: 7
Fighting ability: 7
Agility: 7

I gave Goku this, but I think yours is more accurate apart from intelligence

Agility 6
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 7
Intelligence 1 (fighting 7)
Mental Power 5
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Flight) 6
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Originally posted by Peterlane
I gave Goku this, but I think yours is more accurate apart from intelligence

Agility 6
Durability 7
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 7
Intelligence 1 (fighting 7)
Mental Power 5
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Flight) 6
Stamina 6
Strength 7

Are your stats based off of black hair goku.

Originally posted by carver9
Are your stats based off of black hair goku.

Yes

Nah the lowballing isn't as bad here as on NF. On here it is usually only when someone compares Goku to their favorites that they try to discredit everything in dbz. On NF you could put Goku against Batman and have half the forum saying Batman wins.

Originally posted by TheBadguy
Nah the lowballing isn't as bad here as on NF. On here it is usually only when someone compares Goku to their favorites that they try to discredit everything in dbz. On NF you could put Goku against Batman and have half the forum saying Batman wins.

This is fact. They say stupid things like Batman will poison Goku because he suffered from an unknown heart disease.

Tetsuo Shima

Agility 2
Durability 7
Energy Projection 2
Fighting Ability 2
Intelligence 4
Mental Power 7+
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Teleport) 7
Stamina 4
Strength 2

Did I do that right?

I forgot to bring this up, someone said that DBZ doesnt have any kind of versatility.

Let me name some things that even Roshi has done on his own.

Shoot electricity from his hand (during the time goku turned into the big monkey).

Telepath

Shoot a winter breeze from his hands.

Mind control

Shoot beams from his eyes

Increase his already super human stats to unknown levels.

Telekinesis

And the list goes on.

Originally posted by XanatosForever
Tetsuo Shima

Agility 2
Durability 7
Energy Projection 2
Fighting Ability 2
Intelligence 4
Mental Power 7+
Reflexes 6
Speed 6
Speed (Teleport) 7
Stamina 4
Strength 2

Did I do that right?

Agility 3
Durability 7( only because of regen)
Energy Projection 7
Fighting Ability 2
Intelligence 2-4 (But he created a bionic arm and created a system of mutation)
Mental Power 7+
Reflexes 5
Speed 6
Speed (flight) 7 (teleporation =/= speed)
Stamina 7
Strength 2

Originally posted by carver9
I forgot to bring this up, someone said that DBZ doesnt have any kind of versatility.

Let me name some things that even Roshi has done on his own.

Shoot electricity from his hand (during the time goku turned into the big monkey).

Telepath

Shoot a winter breeze from his hands.

Mind control

Shoot beams from his eyes

Increase his already super human stats to unknown levels.

Telekinesis

And the list goes on.

Which are all ki techniques proving that in versatility KI = Power Cosmic

Originally posted by Peterlane
Which are all ki techniques proving that in versatility KI = Power Cosmic

LOL NO

(BTW a lot of those never even happened, he used hypnosis, not mind control, and I don't recall Roshi ever shooting beams from his eyes).

And what's funny is that Roshi has been the only one to do a lot of those things.

Anyway, call me when a DBZ character uses ki to:

- Transmute material (Buu's beam is magic, it doesn't count)
- Absorb power from opponents (androids don't use ki and thus don't count)
- Teleport things inside of people
- Create black holes
- Give powers to people without any powers
- Travel to other universes
- Shrink to microscopic size
- Bind someone's life force to a certain place
- Create a flame that will never go out
- Absorb a dimension
- Become intangible
- Time travel


Or any of the other things that PC users casually do.

PC >>>>>>>>>>>> DBZ ki

Originally posted by Endless Mike
LOL NO

(BTW a lot of those never even happened, he used hypnosis, not mind control, and I don't recall Roshi ever shooting beams from his eyes).

And what's funny is that Roshi has been the only one to do a lot of those things.

Anyway, call me when a DBZ character uses ki to:

- Transmute material (Buu's beam is magic, it doesn't count)
- Absorb power from opponents (androids don't use ki and thus don't count)
- Teleport things inside of people
- Create black holes
- Give powers to people without any powers
- Travel to other universes
- Shrink to microscopic size
- Bind someone's life force to a certain place
- Create a flame that will never go out
- Absorb a dimension
- Become intangible
- Time travel


Or any of the other things that PC users casually do.

PC >>>>>>>>>>>> DBZ ki

- Piccolo shoots beams from his eyes and electricity from his antennae.
- Goku and many others display telepathic abilities once they are have decent ki control
- Piccolo and the Kai's creating clothes out of nothing. And why doesn't Buu's ki attack count? Because it proves you wrong?
- Goku can abosorb others power and so can Yakon
- Piccolo can grow to gigantic proportions
- Goku can move so fast that you cant even see afterimages and attack grow through him
- Goku use's ki to teleport universal distanses
- Goku uses ki as a sort of cosmic awerness because he can sense strong ki from planets away.

- Has the power cosmic been used to make some one grow to gigantic proportions? NO but it doesn't mean it cant
Explain this EM.

Oh yeh and where did I say Ki = PC in power? WTF is wrong with you taking comment out of context?....Oh yeh you're an NF regular.

Originally posted by Peterlane
- Piccolo shoots beams from his eyes and electricity from his antennae.

Too bad Piccolo isn't Master Roshi. I said that Roshi never shot beams from his eyes.



Of course, but not "mind control". The closest one to that was Babidi, and he used magic, no ki (also it only worked by amplifying the evil already present in someone's mind).



Those were specific racial abilities. Nameks have abilities associated with their race like creating Dragonballs, creating eggs to give birth to other creatures, etc. Kaios and Kaioshins have a lot of weird powers that have nothing to do with ki. I'm talking about things that every character can do. Sure, if you take every ability ever shown by every Dragonball/Z character, and combined them all into 1, you would have a pretty damn versatile character.

But the point is that no one character can do all of those things.



You need to work on your reading comprehension. I said it didn't count because it was magic, not ki, and we were specifically discussing ki. Buu is a magical being, many of his abilities are magically based and not based on ki. Do you want me to start bringing up all of the things that magic in Marvel or some other universe can do?



Goku can only do so if they willingly give it to him, and only via a genki dama technique.

Yakon is the only character that ever demonstrated his specific ability. Again, it's a racial trait, not a commonplace thing.



Racial trait.



So can anyone, if they are fast enough. In some cases that kind of thing is actually possible at subsonic speeds, depending on the distance traveled, background and foreground colors, and the angle/distance of the viewer.



No, he just locks onto the ki. And teleportation is not what I asked for.



Exactly, he only senses ki, he can't sense things like inanimate objects, or spacial distortions.

Ask Goku what's in the back of your left dresser drawer and he won't know the answer without actually going there and looking.



Galactus uses it to change his size all of the time.

Observe:

Here he's a few meters tall

http://img94.imageshack.us/i/galactus48na.jpg/

Here he's bigger than a planet

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2543/galactussize.jpg




You're the one who took my comments about Buu's techniques out of context. I don't know what your problem is with NF, but most of them are far better debators than you.